death: WAS My AA story

[Guest guest]

Hi Apple, folks

I understand like died of a smoking-related respiratory

disorder.

Pete

" apple " wrote:

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> Ebby Thatcher is an interesting character. When Bill saw him after he

> had been " reformed " by our beloved Oxford group, Bill remarked that

> Ebby was virtually unrecognizeable in personality, and that he had a

> glow in his eyes which Bill had never before seen. Bill suspected this

> might be the " glow " of a spiritual awakening. According to Flo

> Conway's book, " Snapping, America's Epidemic in Sudden Personality

> Change " , that " glow " is the thousand mile stare characteristic of cult

> members, when the information processing capabilities (of the brain)

> has been seriously altered due to the cultic environment. She writes

> that in such environments, members " snap " , (give yourself completely,

> let go completely, surrender yourself completely) and because the

> information they receive cannot be tested within that environment, (by

> questioning, critiquing), members are rarely able to do more than

> parrot back what was taught them by their superiors.

>

> It is interesting to note that the cause of Ebby's death was suicide.

> The only woman who contributed a personal recovery story to the Big

> Book also died of suicide. Bill as we know suffered from long-term

deep

> depression. Does anyone know how Dr. Bob died?

>

> Amazing stuff isn't it?

> Apple

> >

> > is in reality the sole author, though he did listen to input

> > from and others. is really only the AA co-founder of AA

in

> > AA mythology; in reality he was the first person approached

who

> > actually managed to stop drinking, and interestingly, he wasn't in

New

> > York and so didn't get too big a dose of him! There are other

equally

> > plausible candidates, such as Ebby Thatcher who was the one who

> > approached ; but these aren't good icons because they weren't

> > able to stay abstinent, so AA passes them over.

> >

> > Pete

> >

> >

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