Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 Hi Mike, Thought I'd step in, because I just finished a book that explained REBT. REBT emphasizes thinking and emotions and how they affect behavior. It teaches us to recogonize that often our thinking is irrational and hinders effective living. If we learn to change our thinking, then we will change how we feel and behave. The book is called Alcohol: How to give it up and be glad you Did by Philip Tate. I think that there might be something on REBT at the SMART website also. Sue >Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups >To: 12-step-freeegroups >Subject: Re:R.E.B.T >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:26:14 -0800 > > >Hi Pete, > Can you give me a little input on Rational Emotional Behaviorall >Therapy? I just found and article on it, and I would be interested in what >you can tell me about it, as the literature I have doesn't cover a whole >lot. >Thanks, >Mike M >P.S. Are you a counselor, psychologist, or just very well read? Just >curious. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you took Podimin™, Redux®, or the combination " Fen-Phen, " >visit the OFFICIAL site. Request the Court authorized notice package >explaining your rights under the class settlement. >http://click./1/833/1/_/4324/_/950318853/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- /cal?listname=12-step-free & m=1 > ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Hi Sue, Thanks, I'll have to take a look for the book. You sound like your beginning to find yourself. The thoughts in your head may be like mine, I found in the end, I was just trying to make sence of the built up anger that was beginning to flow out of me. I had just began to see the manipulation and everything was kind of running together. When little pieces started to fit together and I could recognize them for what they were, the voices started to go away. Keep posting, your messages help me a lot some days. I don't always get a chance to answer or comment, but I try to read everyones posts on here. Different views make life what it realy is. The one thing AA never let us have, the ability to agree to disagree. I didn't have the time to get on with my opinion of the Fez, and this isn't intended to be aimed at you or anyone else, but kicking him off the list was the right thing to do. I think Matt had some deep emotional scars, and the garbage that was being slung at him must have cut deep and opened a lot of old wounds. I peronally hope this list will always remain here to help heal, not hurt. Mike M At 02:56 AM 02/12/2000 GMT, you wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Thought I'd step in, because I just finished a book that > explained REBT. > REBT emphasizes thinking and emotions and how they affect > behavior. It teaches us to recogonize that often our thinking > is irrational and hinders effective living. If we learn to > change our thinking, then we will change how we feel and > behave. > The book is called Alcohol: How to give it up and be glad > you Did by Philip Tate. > I think that there might be something on REBT at the SMART > website also. > > Sue > > > > >>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups >>To: 12-step-freeegroups >>Subject: Re:R.E.B.T >>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:26:14 -0800 >> >> >>Hi Pete, >> Can you give me a little input on Rational Emotional Behaviorall >>Therapy? I just found and article on it, and I would be interested in what >>you can tell me about it, as the literature I have doesn't cover a whole >>lot. >>Thanks, >>Mike M >>P.S. Are you a counselor, psychologist, or just very well read? Just >>curious. >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>If you took Podimin™, Redux®, or the combination " Fen-Phen, " >>visit the OFFICIAL site. Request the Court authorized notice package >>explaining your rights under the class settlement. >>http://click./1/833/1/_/4324/_/950318853/ >> >>-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >>-- /cal?listname=12-step-free & m=1 >> > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Save cash today! >http://click./1/1414/1/_/4324/_/950324220/ > >-- Talk to your group with your own voice! >-- /VoiceChatPage?listName=12-step-free & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2000 Report Share Posted February 16, 2000 << To Mike and Pete, Please do nto connect RR with SMART. RR was wrong when I connected it'self to SMART and REBT. The use of AVRT is plenty of information and understanding to stop any addiction. Also RR is focused on " never " drinking or using ever again, VIa the Big Plan. Please checkout www.rational.org >> A slight correction, the Rational Recovery web page is at: http://www.rational.org/recovery Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2000 Report Share Posted February 16, 2000 To Mike and Pete, Please do nto connect RR with SMART. RR was wrong when I connected it'self to SMART and REBT. The use of AVRT is plenty of information and understanding to stop any addiction. Also RR is focused on " never " drinking or using ever again, VIa the Big Plan. Please checkout www.rational.org Re:R.E.B.T >Hi Mike > >I have a first degree in Psychology and am fairly well read, that's all. > >The only thing I know abt REBT is from the Appendix of Chaz Bufe's >book, " AA:Cult or Cure? " , and it's quite a while since I read it. >Essentially it seems to be simply a form of Cognitive Behavioral >Therapy, which works on challenging irrational, self-defeating thoughts >- " cognitions " - and trying to break down self-defeating behavior by >trying to change it in a systematic fashion. For example, I was >concerned that I would not be able to attract a mate as I am nearly 40, >fat and unemployed. I can challenge this belief by remembering ppl I >know of who have found partners at much later ages, that I can lose >weight but some women like fat men in any case, and that I can find >work or even if I cant I can provide other things than just money, such >as love, affection, and a sense of humor. If I find I am drinking >heavily to get confidence socially, I can try getting used to social >situations where I am already comfortable (such as with old friends) >without drinking, and gradually, perhaps taking a friend for moral >support, try tackling more and more challenging social situations >without drinking as my confidence grows. What particularly irks me abt >my former sponsor is that he used the AA doctrine to try to demand >instant changes in my behavior rather than using this well-established, >scientifically demonstrated method for behavioral change. Try to >change things too quickly, and you risk panicking, giving up and >reinforcing your old patterns. > >REBT was a major input to RR and SMART. Its devisor, Albert Ellis, >believed it was possible for alcoholics to drink again, but recommended >a year's abstinence before trying moderation, which I think has >something to be said for it. > >best >Pete > >mike may wrote: >original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12504 >> Hi Pete, >> Can you give me a little input on Rational Emotional Behaviorall >> Therapy? I just found and article on it, and I would be interested in >what >> you can tell me about it, as the literature I have doesn't cover a >whole lot. >> Thanks, >> Mike M >> P.S. Are you a counselor, psychologist, or just very well read? Just >> curious. >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you took Podimin™, Redux®, or the combination " Fen-Phen, " >visit the OFFICIAL site. Request the Court authorized notice package >explaining your rights under the class settlement. >http://click./1/833/1/_/4324/_/950659507/ > >-- Check out your group's private Chat room >-- /ChatPage?listName=12-step-free & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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