Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

[Guest guest]

I am wondering if that is why I have a fast pulse (a life long issue) - low aldosterone??? I am having it tested now. It was extremely low in the past.

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[Guest guest]

Yes that could well be.

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[Guest guest]

I think maybe we should add high estrogen to the list below, as I found this when looking up TBG on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroxine-binding_globulin:

"If, for example, the TBG level is high, which can occur when estrogen levels are high, the TBG will bind more thyroid hormone, decreasing the free hormone available in the blood"

Liz

----- Original Message -----

From: Jacki B.

Here are the ones *I* know of(!) - I'm sure there are more...Low ferritinLow aldosteroneLow cortisolLow B-12Electrolytes out of balanceIf all these check out - what's left?!!

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:39 AM, wlizrocketmail <wlizrocketmail> wrote:

It seems like for a lot of us there is a resistance factor that is beyond RT3, but none of us know what that is. Does anyone here have any ideas???

..

[Guest guest]

What is TBG?

It is so hard to tell how much estrogen binding is normal and how much is too

much? I can't figure out if I should stay on estrogen and go on a super high T3

dose or taper down the estrogen and get more from the T3 I am taking now.

>

> It seems like for a lot of us there is a resistance factor that is beyond

RT3, but none of us know what that is. Does anyone here have any ideas???

>

>

>

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

TBG is Thyroxine-binding globulin, which is misleading as it binds BOTH T3 and T4.

Personally, I think the estrogen vs thyroid hormone decision is a personal one. At the present, I've reduced estrogen but am still taking it. For me, if it comes down to an absolute choice between the two, I'll choose thyroid over estrogen!

Insterestingly, if you look at the Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroxine-binding_globulin:, it also says that "in the presence of corticosteroids, which lower TBG levels, the total thyroid hormone (bound and free) in the blood will be low." I'm not sure if this means HC will also effectively lower how much thyroid hormone is available for the body. It's a bit confusing, as their talking about the TBG test and how it's done (via testing resin uptake), but I felt the quote about the Estrogen seemed pretty straight forward. Check it out yourself and see what you think!

Liz

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From: wliz@...

What is TBG?It is so hard to tell how much estrogen binding is normal and how much is too much? I can't figure out if I should stay on estrogen and go on a super high T3 dose or taper down the estrogen and get more from the T3 I am taking now.>> I think maybe we should add high estrogen to the list below, as I found this when looking up TBG on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroxine-binding_globulin:> > "If, for example, the TBG level is high, which can occur when estrogen levels are high, the TBG will bind more thyroid hormone, decreasing the free hormone available in the blood"> > Liz

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm, I wonder if this is the answer to my pulse and temps question about why my

pulse was rising much faster than my temp - and I'm not optimal on thyroid yet.

Radar

>

> Yes low aldosterone can mess wiht thyroid supplementation as if ti is

> too low you wil have a veyr high pulse TOO HIGH, long before you get to

> optimal thyroid levels,

>

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

> It seems like for a lot of us there is a resistance factor that is beyond RT3,

but none of us know what that is. Does anyone here have any ideas???

Well, for me, it seems it was low ferritin.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Val,

High aldosterone, what?

My aldosterone was one point above highest range, what would that mean?

Thanks,

>

> Yes low aldosterone can mess wiht thyroid supplementation as if ti is

> too low you wil have a veyr high pulse TOO HIGH, long before you get to

> optimal thyroid levels,

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It

is pure T3 – scientific name Liothyronine - nothing else – in a

slow release form that releases for 12 hours – therefore you only take it

twice a day – e.g. 8am and 8pm.

You

can get it from Medaus, USA under prescription from your doctor - http://www.medaus.com

The

T2 is a different capsule – pure T2 – diiodi-3-thyronine.

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by:

" Leisa Forman " leisamelanie@... leisamelanie

Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:17 am

(PDT)

Shirley, can you tel us what is in your compounded rtt3..2

Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

To: RT3_T3

Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 4:16 AM

HI all,

I’m now on T3 (and T2) only. I take the slow release T3 twice a day at

8am and 8pm. And I feel good. Had some RT3 issues and decided to drop the

synthetic T4 (Eltroxin here in SA).

I feel good on the slow release – never have to worry about 4 doses every

day.

My doctor advised me that T4 makes for a more stable environment, but I decided

to stick to T3 only as the RT3 really messes up life, and I would prefer to try

T3 only and see how “stabilizing” T4 really is – after all,

it pretty much is a moot point if together with the stable aspect comes RT3

issues? So I’m deciding “Unstable” vs. “RT3”

right now – so far “unstable” wins ;-)

[Guest guest]

Hi

,

My

source is in South Africa. From my doctor’s pharmacy. It seems not to be

available anywhere else – but I know some body builders use it so it

might be available from their sources.

Anyway,

feel free to contact my pharmacy:

Compharm

Tel

+27 (0) 56-811-3277

lab@... – they are not

good at answering emails – be warned.

Warm regards,

Andre Shirley

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by: " " artisticgroomer@... valharly

Fri

Jun 19, 2009 3:02 pm (PDT)

You mention T2, is it still available? Can you email me a source?

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" My aldosterone was one point above highest range, what would that mean? "

One poitn I woudl think I would nto worry about at all.

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[Guest guest]

Just wondering if your slow release T3 is very expensive?

Claudene

>

>

> Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

> To: <mailto:RT3_T3%40yahoogroups.com> RT3_T3

> Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 4:16 AM

>

> HI all,

>

> I'm now on T3 (and T2) only. I take the slow release T3 twice a day at 8am

> and 8pm. And I feel good. Had some RT3 issues and decided to drop the

> synthetic T4 (Eltroxin here in SA).

>

> I feel good on the slow release - never have to worry about 4 doses every

> day.

>

> My doctor advised me that T4 makes for a more stable environment, but I

> decided to stick to T3 only as the RT3 really messes up life, and I would

> prefer to try T3 only and see how " stabilizing " T4 really is - after all, it

> pretty much is a moot point if together with the stable aspect comes RT3

> issues? So I'm deciding " Unstable " vs. " RT3 " right now - so far " unstable "

> wins ;-)

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks..so bodybuilders use it...now, is it combined t2/t3...or 2 seperate meds?

Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?To: "RT3" <RT3_T3 >Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:03 AM

Hi ,

My source is in South Africa. From my doctor’s pharmacy. It seems not to be available anywhere else – but I know some body builders use it so it might be available from their sources.

Anyway, feel free to contact my pharmacy:

Compharm

Tel +27 (0) 56-811-3277

lab@... – they are not good at answering emails – be warned.

Warm regards,

Andre Shirley

+27 (0) 82 650 2294

Don Shirley

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by: " " artisticgroomer@... valharly

Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:02 pm (PDT)

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Andre,

So, what is the T2 supposedly supposed to help when it comes to your thyroid

symptoms? How much do you take? I have read articles about how the T2 can help

with weight loss. I'm just wondering if it can help with joint and bone

pain....weird pains.

In RT3_T3 , " Andre Shirley " wrote:

>

> Hi ,

>

>

>

> My source is in South Africa. From my doctor's pharmacy. It seems not to be

> available anywhere else - but I know some body builders use it so it might

> be available from their sources.

>

> Anyway, feel free to contact my pharmacy:

>

>

>

> Compharm

>

> Tel +27 (0) 56-811-3277

>

> lab@... - they are not good at answering emails - be warned.

>

>

>

> Warm regards,

>

>

>

> Andre Shirley

>

>

>

> +27 (0) 82 650 2294

>

> Don Shirley

>

> +27 (0) 82 650 2279

>

> www.iantd.co.za

>

> www.technicaldivingafrica.com

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> Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:02 pm (PDT)

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Claudine,

In

SA Rands it is R250.00 per month’s supply (60 capsules taken twice a

day). Our Rand is weaker than US $ (at about R8.50 to $1.00), but I doubt you

can convert exactly like that, as the source of the T3 comes from USA, but the

rest is made up in SA. Medaus in USA should be able to give you quote - http://www.medaus.com.

Warm regards,

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by:

" claudenehensler " claudenehensler@... claudenehensler

Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:39 am

(PDT)

Just wondering if your slow release T3 is very expensive?

Claudene

>

> Hi,

>

> It is pure T3 - scientific name Liothyronine - nothing else - in a slow

> release form that releases for 12 hours - therefore you only take it twice

a

> day - e.g. 8am and 8pm.

>

> You can get it from Medaus, USA under prescription from your doctor -

> http://www.medaus.com

>

[Guest guest]

It

is separate – T3 in one capsule and a separate T2 in another – so you

can adjust dosages optimally.

Warm regards,

Andre Shirley

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by:

" Leisa Forman " leisamelanie@... leisamelanie

Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:45 am

(PDT)

Thanks..so bodybuilders use it...now, is it combined t2/t3...or 2 seperate

meds?

Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

To: " RT3 " <RT3_T3 >

Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:03 AM

Hi ,

My source is in South Africa. From my doctor’s pharmacy. It seems not to

be available anywhere else – but I know some body builders use it so it

might be available from their sources.

Anyway, feel free to contact my pharmacy:

Compharm

Tel +27 (0) 56-811-3277

lab@...

– they are not good at answering emails – be warned.

[Guest guest]

Hi

,

It

boosts metabolism – so anyone with a sluggish metabolism will benefit and

lose weight. My doctor prescribes it to overweight people with slow metabolisms

whether they have thyroid problems or not. Of course most of the patients do

have thyroid problems.

I

take 125mcg.

I

doubt it will do anything for joints. I never had joint pains so I’m not

sure.

Warm regards,

Andre Shirley

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by: " cinkourk@... " cinkourk@... cinkourk@...

Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:55 am

(PDT)

Andre,

So, what is the T2 supposedly supposed to help when it comes to your thyroid

symptoms? How much do you take? I have read articles about how the T2 can help

with weight loss. I'm just wondering if it can help with joint and bone

pain....weird pains.

[Guest guest]

Im having a hard time following. Is it a combo t2/t3 product..or just t3

Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?To: "RT3" <RT3_T3 >Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:42 AM

Hi ,

It boosts metabolism – so anyone with a sluggish metabolism will benefit and lose weight. My doctor prescribes it to overweight people with slow metabolisms whether they have thyroid problems or not. Of course most of the patients do have thyroid problems.

I take 125mcg.

I doubt it will do anything for joints. I never had joint pains so I’m not sure.

Warm regards,

Andre Shirley

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Posted by: "cinkourk@..." cinkourk@... cinkourk@...

Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:55 am (PDT)

Andre,So, what is the T2 supposedly supposed to help when it comes to your thyroid symptoms? How much do you take? I have read articles about how the T2 can help with weight loss. I'm just wondering if it can help with joint and bone pain....weird pains.

[Guest guest]

Andre, Thanks for your response.

You take 125mcg of the T2?? Is that slow release also?? And how much SRT3 do you take? Sorry about all of the questions. I have just heard so much about how the T2 can help with the weight loss. I just don't know if I can get it here in the US or if my Dr. would agree to adding it to my T3.

Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?To: "RT3" <RT3_T3 >Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:42 AM

Hi ,

It boosts metabolism – so anyone with a sluggish metabolism will benefit and lose weight. My doctor prescribes it to overweight people with slow metabolisms whether they have thyroid problems or not. Of course most of the patients do have thyroid problems.

I take 125mcg.

I doubt it will do anything for joints. I never had joint pains so I’m not sure.

Warm regards,

Andre Shirley

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by: "cinkourksbcglobal (DOT) net" cinkourksbcglobal (DOT) net cinkourksbcglobal (DOT) net

Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:55 am (PDT)

Andre,So, what is the T2 supposedly supposed to help when it comes to your thyroid symptoms? How much do you take? I have read articles about how the T2 can help with weight loss. I'm just wondering if it can help with joint and bone pain....weird pains.

[Guest guest]

oh thank you, I spoke to soon! So you take a bit of each is that trickier than just t3? what differences do you notice with the 2 as opposed to the t3 alone? thans, leisaSubject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?To: "RT3" <RT3_T3 >Date: Saturday,

June 20, 2009, 3:03 AMHi , My source is in South Africa. From my doctor’s pharmacy. It seems not to be available anywhere else – but I know some body builders use it so it might be available from their sources. Anyway, feel free to contact my pharmacy: CompharmTel +27 (0) 56-811-3277lab@... – they are not good at answering emails – be warned.

[Guest guest]

-

Now this is interesting. I missed the first post on this subject. So we cannot

get T2 in the US?

Venizia

-- In RT3_T3 , Leisa Forman wrote:

>

> oh thank you, I spoke to soon! So you take a bit of each is that trickier than

just t3? what differences do you notice with the 2 as opposed to the t3 alone?

thans, leisa

>

>

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

> To: " RT3 " <RT3_T3 >

> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:37 AM

>

>

>

>

> It is separate †" T3 in one capsule and a separate T2 in another †" so you

can adjust dosages optimally.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry

if I sound confusing.

My

product is one capsule containing T3 Only – which was the start of

this discussion. And I feel great using T3 only.

(I

take another pill that contains T2 Only – but that’s another topic,

and has nothing to do with whether you feel good taking only T3.)

Hope

that clears it up for you?

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anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by:

" Leisa Forman " leisamelanie@... leisamelanie

Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:54 am

(PDT)

Im having a hard time following. Is it a combo t2/t3 product..or just t3

[Guest guest]

Hi

,

The

T2 is also slow release, and yes I take 125mcg twice a day.

I

take 75mcg Slow Release T3 twice a day.

Hope

your doctor can help. My doctor advised me to lesse the T3 by 7.5mcg when I

started taking the T2 as well. But later I had to increase it as I could feel

the loss of the 7.5mcg.

Warm regards,

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Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:55 am

(PDT)

Andre, Thanks for your response.

You take 125mcg of the T2?? Is that slow release also?? And how

much SRT3 do you take? Sorry about all of the questions. I have

just heard so much about how the T2 can help with the weight loss. I just

don't know if I can get it here in the US or if my Dr. would agree to

adding it to my T3.

[Guest guest]

HI

Leisa,

Sorry

– only saw the last email after I sent mine.

Some

of my cravings went away immediately. For that alone it was worth it! J Of course my metabolism went up, and I

lost about 2kg’s without changing any habits.

Taking

the T2 is no more trickier than adding one more pill to the ever-growing ensemble.

As I said in previous email – you might want to drop about 7.5mcg of T3

just until you see if you don’t go hyper when starting T2 as well, then

you can add back the 7.5 T3 or not as the case may be. That’s it!

Warm regards,

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by:

" Leisa Forman " leisamelanie@... leisamelanie

Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:56 am

(PDT)

oh thank you, I spoke to soon! So you take a bit of each is that trickier than

just t3? what differences do you notice with the 2 as opposed to the t3 alone?

thans, leisa

[Guest guest]

Ok, sorry to make you repeat yourself again but I'm still a bit confused.

You say you take 125mcg SRT2 twice a day. Do you mean that you take 62.5mcg twice per day for an equivalent of 125mcg daily? And the same for the SRT3, dosed twice to get an equivalent of 75 per day?

Another question I have is how do you check your lab levels for the T2?? Is there a lab test for FT2?? Or do you just dose on how you feel?

Sorry for all of the questions but I just really want to try to understand this method.

Thanks again for your explanations.

Subject: Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?To: "RT3" <RT3_T3 >Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 12:50 PM

Hi ,

The T2 is also slow release, and yes I take 125mcg twice a day.

I take 75mcg Slow Release T3 twice a day.

Hope your doctor can help. My doctor advised me to lesse the T3 by 7.5mcg when I started taking the T2 as well. But later I had to increase it as I could feel the loss of the 7.5mcg.

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Re: Has anyone felt ok on t3 only?

Posted by: " Kourkoubes" cinkourksbcglobal (DOT) net cinkourksbcglobal (DOT) net

Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:55 am (PDT)

Andre, Thanks for your response.You take 125mcg of the T2?? Is that slow release also?? And how much SRT3 do you take? Sorry about all of the questions. I have just heard so much about how the T2 can help with the weight loss. I just don't know if I can get it here in the US or if my Dr. would agree to adding it to my T3.