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Completely removing the common bile duct and gall bladder is standard

procedure during liver transplantation for PSC patients. Even so in

about 20 to 30% PSC recurs. In my case it became symptomatic after 4

years, in Steve R's case after 16 years. There are others on this

list that fall somewhere in the middle. It may be that PSC is always

present, but in most transplantees slows down so much that it isn't

detectable above the normal fluctuations that a transplanted liver

exhibits. Or as your doctor says, transplantation may be a " cure " for

PSC. I view it as a trade off of a serious condition for a less

serious but still chronic condition that involves lifetime use of

expensive medications, increased risk of cancer and other disease due

to immunosuppression and a requirement to be constantly vigilant

about health issues.

Tim R ltx 4/4/98, PSC recurrance 2002

> ... The doctor said I would be cured after the

> transplant. He said they are going to remove my bile ducts and

gallbladder

> during the process and will connect the new liver directly to my

small

> instestine (duodenum). Has anyone had this type of transplant and

did your

> PSC come back?

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That makes it easier for me to understand. So even though your common bile duct is removed you still have other bile ducts that were left behind and subsequently got reaffected by PSC? How exactly did it recurr? Where? I want to ask my transplant doctor about this for sure. Also, when your symptoms returned where they as bad as before? Does this mean you'll have to get another transplant or is there nothing else that can be done?

-----Original Message-----From: Tim Romlein Sent: July 18, 2004 6:05 PMTo: Subject: Re: - transplant listing,Completely removing the common bile duct and gall bladder is standard procedure during liver transplantation for PSC patients. Even so in about 20 to 30% PSC recurs. In my case it became symptomatic after 4 years, in Steve R's case after 16 years. There are others on this list that fall somewhere in the middle. It may be that PSC is always present, but in most transplantees slows down so much that it isn't detectable above the normal fluctuations that a transplanted liver exhibits. Or as your doctor says, transplantation may be a "cure" for PSC. I view it as a trade off of a serious condition for a less serious but still chronic condition that involves lifetime use of expensive medications, increased risk of cancer and other disease due to immunosuppression and a requirement to be constantly vigilant about health issues.Tim R ltx 4/4/98, PSC recurrance 2002> ... The doctor said I would be cured after the> transplant. He said they are going to remove my bile ducts and gallbladder> during the process and will connect the new liver directly to my small> instestine (duodenum). Has anyone had this type of transplant and did your> PSC come back?

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> ... So even though your common bile duct is removed you

> still have other bile ducts that were left behind and

> subsequently got reaffected by PSC?

Yes, the vast majority of the biliary tree is within the liver. Just

as the woody part of a tree consists of both the trunk and the

branches, the biliary tree has ducts both outside the liver

(extrahepatic - common bile duct) and inside (intrahepatic). The

intrahepatic ducts branch within each lobe of the liver until the

final micro tubules are in contact with every liver cell.

> How exactly did it recurr? Where?

The " how " is unknown, the where is the intrahepatic ducts. A PCT

cholangiogram revealed many strictures and beading throughout the

biliary tree. A PCT stent has assisted drainage for the last 20

months.

> I want

> to ask my transplant doctor about this for sure. Also, when your

symptoms

> returned where they as bad as before? Does this mean you'll have to

get

> another transplant or is there nothing else that can be done?

My symptoms of fatigue and pruritis seemed to escalate more rapidly

during the past 2 years than they did the first time around. Because

bilirubin has been steadily creeping higher I will start evaluation

for another transplant next week. As with PSC pretransplant there is

no established therapy that will slow the progression of PSC, so a

transplant is the only option when liver failure sets in.

Tim R

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Thanks for the information and I will ask my doctor about the percentage of

patients he transplanted where PSC recurred. I definitely hope that you feel

better the second time around. I certainly hope that my PSC will not recur

after my transplant.

>

> > ... So even though your common bile duct is removed you

> > still have other bile ducts that were left behind and

> > subsequently got reaffected by PSC?

>

> Yes, the vast majority of the biliary tree is within the liver. Just

> as the woody part of a tree consists of both the trunk and the

> branches, the biliary tree has ducts both outside the liver

> (extrahepatic - common bile duct) and inside (intrahepatic). The

> intrahepatic ducts branch within each lobe of the liver until the

> final micro tubules are in contact with every liver cell.

>

> > How exactly did it recurr? Where?

>

> The " how " is unknown, the where is the intrahepatic ducts. A PCT

> cholangiogram revealed many strictures and beading throughout the

> biliary tree. A PCT stent has assisted drainage for the last 20

> months.

>

> > I want

> > to ask my transplant doctor about this for sure. Also, when your

>

> symptoms

>

> > returned where they as bad as before? Does this mean you'll have to

>

> get

>

> > another transplant or is there nothing else that can be done?

>

> My symptoms of fatigue and pruritis seemed to escalate more rapidly

> during the past 2 years than they did the first time around. Because

> bilirubin has been steadily creeping higher I will start evaluation

> for another transplant next week. As with PSC pretransplant there is

> no established therapy that will slow the progression of PSC, so a

> transplant is the only option when liver failure sets in.

>

> Tim R

>

>

>

>

>

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