Re: Please..I have a few questions (Janie)

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In a message dated 5/26/2004 11:46:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

d_timmsjosey@... writes:

> I cannot go on with this high heart rate 103 at rest just now as I

> checked it.

,

You don't have mitral valve prolapse, do you? I know a lot of thyroid folks

do...and I was wondering what the symptoms are...if this might be part of your

problem.

Cindi

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> I have noticed that some folks simply need to raise a LOT slower

> than others. Their bodies are super sensitive and need time to

> adjust to raises. Could that be your issue?

>

> There is another gal here who had bad problems with blood pressure,

> but that was on even 1/2 grain. She never tried adrenal support. She

> went back to synthetics, but a few months ago, returned to Armour

> along with her synthetics. But this time, she is staying on a low

> dose a lot longer before raising...

Janie,

I cannot go on with this high heart rate 103 at rest just now as I

checked it. I think I am one of the above people and went way too fast

trying to get well quick . Would you suggest I drop down to 1 1/2

grains to level out and then slowly increase again, or would a 1/4

grain drop be the way to go? Thanks for your help. I feel like total

crap right now!

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I'm wondering about this also, in this case. They say that it is so common in

thyroid disease, and it can be responsible for the dizzy, brain foggy feeling

also. That doesn't mean we ALL have it, but we wouldn't know unless we get

moving pictures done of our heart in actual motion to see how this valve is

" flopping " open and closing.

Re: Re: Please..I have a few questions

(Janie)

In a message dated 5/26/2004 11:46:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

d_timmsjosey@... writes:

> I cannot go on with this high heart rate 103 at rest just now as I

> checked it.

,

You don't have mitral valve prolapse, do you? I know a lot of thyroid folks

do...and I was wondering what the symptoms are...if this might be part of your

problem.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

this is interesting. I have a problem - but no clue what it is. only that it is

supposedly no big deal because of the side of the heart that it is on. if it was

on the other side, I'd be in big trouble....

and prior to my surgery in august, my EKG was abnormal, and my dr. never did

follow up with it. I talked to several people about it - drs. etc - and they

weren't concerned. All my pcp knew was that it was abnormal and promised to find

out - they never did. not even with my prodding. Hoping to lean more now from my

new dr.

Cris

Re: Re: Please..I have a few questions

(Janie)

In a message dated 5/26/2004 11:46:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

d_timmsjosey@... writes:

> I cannot go on with this high heart rate 103 at rest just now as I

> checked it.

,

You don't have mitral valve prolapse, do you? I know a lot of thyroid folks

do...and I was wondering what the symptoms are...if this might be part of your

problem.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

Hi Cris,

An EKG can tell a lot of things about the heart. You need to know what was

abnormal

about the EKG that you had done. What a cruel thing to do..... tell you your

EKG was

" abnormal " and then not tell you what was abnormal about it! You have a right

to this

information. When do you see your new doc? Any possibility of asking your PCP

one

more time -- or demanding that he report the findings? Sounds like the

abnormality

pertained to the right side of the heart.

Most EKG machines will label an EKG " abnormal " if the lengths of cardiac events

are

below or above the norm. But it is always the physician's responsibility to

interpret the EKG and give the reason for it being labeled abnormal. Obviously

no

one took the time to do this properly. Let us know what you find out.

Janet

> this is interesting. I have a problem - but no clue what it is. only that it

is

supposedly no big deal because of the side of the heart that it is on. if it was

on the

other side, I'd be in big trouble....

> and prior to my surgery in august, my EKG was abnormal, and my dr. never did

follow up with it. I talked to several people about it - drs. etc - and they

weren't

concerned. All my pcp knew was that it was abnormal and promised to find out -

they

never did. not even with my prodding. Hoping to lean more now from my new dr.

> Cris

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my pcp at the time, didn't know! they said they were going to consult with a

heard dr. in the building with them - but never did. I did manage to get a copy

of the ekg though!! amazing, huh? but then I didn't know who to show it to or

what to do with it! but - I can take it to my new dr. on tues. and ask her what

she knows and can find out! great plan! thanks! Oh - and she said it will take

at least 6 weeks for them to receive my records from my old dr. and to not worry

that they aren't going to receive them.

My 1st abnormal ekg was when I thought I had thyroid problems, and my dr then

said I was full of it. I ended up in the ER because my neck was swollen out to

my cheeks. The ER dr. was more concerned about my heart racing than the neck.

Even the ER dr. didn't associate it with the thyroid!! duh!! but they did an EKG

then. We're going back probably 85years ago maybe. They sent that one to a

cardiologist. That is one set of papers that got lost in my move from that dr.

because he was livid that I went to the ER...and he thought I went for my heart,

as I had told him my heart had been racing and skipping beats. He said it was

normal. I felt vindicated when the ER dr. immediately said he was concerned with

my heart. ANyway - all I remember was that they said because of the side it was

on, it wasn't a problem. Then - 5 years later, ekg for surgery, and the hospital

calls and wants a special consultation. they didn't know why, and casually said,

maybe it's because of your abnoral EKG !!! frightening, huh?

I was going to write a letter to the hospital to see how long they archive the

records. My pcp at that time, never acknowledged ever receiving any reports

contradicting his diagnosis!! not even from the ENT that he sent me to - for my

'throat infection' that the ENT said were nodules on my thryroid that had

burst....yeah, right - no thryroid problems! and no heart problems!! gotta love

those doctors! GRRRRR !!!!

Problem with getting a report from the hospital is that I have to have at least

a month and year that I was there - and I really have no idea, and I'm not sure

how to figure it out, since I can't get the records. Maybe once my new dr. gets

these from my last dr. I can get the date of my 1st visit there - and go

backwards.

If I hadn't had that abnormal EKG before, I would have been in a total panic.

Cris

Re: Please..I have a few questions (Janie)

Hi Cris,

An EKG can tell a lot of things about the heart. You need to know what was

abnormal

about the EKG that you had done. What a cruel thing to do..... tell you your

EKG was

" abnormal " and then not tell you what was abnormal about it! You have a right

to this

information. When do you see your new doc? Any possibility of asking your PCP

one

more time -- or demanding that he report the findings? Sounds like the

abnormality

pertained to the right side of the heart.

Most EKG machines will label an EKG " abnormal " if the lengths of cardiac events

are

below or above the norm. But it is always the physician's responsibility to

interpret the EKG and give the reason for it being labeled abnormal. Obviously

no

one took the time to do this properly. Let us know what you find out.

Janet

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Cris,

Do you have the EKG with you? If so, if you could tell me the numbers (like

PRI, QRS,

QT interval, etc.) I could at least tell you if those are okay. I'm just

curious here and if

you'd rather not, that's okay. I, of course, can't interpret the tracings

because I can't

see them, but I do know a fair amount about EKGs.

Janet

> my pcp at the time, didn't know! they said they were going to consult with a

heard

dr. in the building with them - but never did. I did manage to get a copy of the

ekg

though!! amazing, huh? but then I didn't know who to show it to or what to do

with it!

but - I can take it to my new dr. on tues. and ask her what she knows and can

find

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I'll dig it out this afternoon and tell you what it says.

I could scan it and e-mail a copy to your addy too if you'd look at it : )

Hubby is already chomping at the bit...we have to go somewhere this morning, and

I'm not dressed yet!!

Thank you!

Cris

Re: Please..I have a few questions (Janie)

Cris,

Do you have the EKG with you? If so, if you could tell me the numbers (like

PRI, QRS,

QT interval, etc.) I could at least tell you if those are okay. I'm just

curious here and if

you'd rather not, that's okay. I, of course, can't interpret the tracings

because I can't

see them, but I do know a fair amount about EKGs.

Janet

> my pcp at the time, didn't know! they said they were going to consult with a

heard

dr. in the building with them - but never did. I did manage to get a copy of the

ekg

though!! amazing, huh? but then I didn't know who to show it to or what to do

with it!

but - I can take it to my new dr. on tues. and ask her what she knows and can

find