Guest guest Posted May 13, 1999 Report Share Posted May 13, 1999 Hey !!!!!!!!!! What was that site again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 In a message dated 6/14/99 10:42:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tulips@... writes: << I'm looking for a hard bar of soap. I would prefer to have it be veggie based (no lard, tallow, etc.) but have no problem with beeswax, etc. Suggestions? I've got an account who needs to have a batch fairly quickly and my normal recipes are not hard hard after 2 weeks and that's my time limit. Help! ~ >> ... number one... reduce your water to 65% of recommended amount (MMS calc) If you havent' allready done so, this will cut curing time by weeks. I have been doing it consistantly and it works fab! My only exceptions are if I'm doing an overpour I do 80% and if I'm doing goatsmilk I do 100%. It speeds up trace, which is why you need longer time with overpour. If you have shea butter, use a higher percentage... 10% makes a good bar... cocoa butter will help too... try 15%... and of course coconut oil... try that at 15% too... Let me know how you do. Shelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 In a message dated 6/14/99 10:56:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Flourchld0@... writes: << If you have shea butter, use a higher percentage... 10% makes a good bar... cocoa butter will help too... try 15%... and of course coconut oil... try that at 15% too... Let me know how you do. Shelle >> Oh yeah, couple more things... if you use beeswax, keep around 2%. Insulate well so it goes through gel stage, my soap is basically ready to use out of mold... the gel stage speeds it right along. I can usually wrap mine in a week. shelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 In a message dated 6/14/99 9:42:30 PM Central Daylight Time, tulips@... writes: << I've got an account who needs to have a batch fairly quickly and my normal recipes are not hard hard after 2 weeks and that's my time limit. >> Have you tried salt? (or should I ask 'do you have a problem with using salt?'LOL) On my softer recipes, I melt about a tsp of salt in warm water, making sure it's completely dissolved, then add the rest of the water in before adding the lye. Makes a nice hard bar. Deni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 Hey there , I'd suggest that you take your normal recipe and run it through the MMS lye calculator and then reduce their recomended amount of liquid by 20-30%. I've been doing this and my soaps have been curing MUCH faster. You could also try adding some beeswax and/or salt to the recipe. Or... if you're feeling very ambitious you could try the dreaded hot process. I've never done it, so I can't vouch for the method or the results, but it's a thought. Good luck sweetums. Stacey P.S. I just realized that I never let you know that the blue arrived. Thanks! And I used the calendula in the soap I made for the swap I'm hosting. Thanks again! _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 > From: Flourchld0@... > > > ... number one... reduce your water to 65% of > recommended amount (MMS > calc) > > If you havent' allready done so, this will cut > curing time by weeks. I have > been doing it consistantly and it works fab Hey Shelle, Great minds think alike! :-) Stacey _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 I had no idea that reducing the water by 65% makes a harder bar!!! I am so excited. I can stopped messing around with beeswax for a while and try this method. I don't have beeswax pellets, just blocks and what a bummer it is cutting it up! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 In a message dated 6/15/99 6:08:21 AM Central Daylight Time, Talia11624@... writes: << I had no idea that reducing the water by 65% makes a harder bar!!! >> Now wait a minute! In my experience, you can do this with recipes you run through MMS calculator... I don't know about recipes out of books... I don't know what they base their ratio on. If you are interested in trying a recipe, run it through the calc first to make sure they haven't allready discounted water percentage. Shelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 In a message dated 6/15/99 8:47:14 AM Central Daylight Time, densgran@... writes: << Talia is saying reduce the water *by* 65%, not *to* 65%. Wouldn't she come up with something different than reduce to 65%? Just wondering............. >> I have never reduced *by* 65%... I don't think you would have enough water to disolve lye! The lowest I have gone is *to* 65%... I don't think it would accept much less. Shelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 Hi Stacey & Shelle, Talia is saying reduce the water *by* 65%, not *to* 65%. Wouldn't she come up with something different than reduce to 65%? Just wondering............. in Ark Re: [soapmaking101] Question > > > > From: Flourchld0@... > > > > > > ... number one... reduce your water to 65% of > > recommended amount (MMS > > calc) > > > > If you havent' allready done so, this will cut > > curing time by weeks. I have > > been doing it consistantly and it works fab > > > Hey Shelle, > > Great minds think alike! :-) > > Stacey > > _________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 Sorry Jen, I just gave you a new name- I called you *Talia*. I will be more careful net time. in Ark > From: Talia11624@... > > I had no idea that reducing the water by 65% makes a harder bar!!! I am so > excited. I can stopped messing around with beeswax for a while and try this > method. I don't have beeswax pellets, just blocks and what a bummer it is > cutting it up! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 In a message dated 6/15/99 9:02:05 AM Central Daylight Time, Flourchld0@... writes: << Talia is saying reduce the water *by* 65%, not *to* 65%. Wouldn't she come up with something different than reduce to 65%? Just >> Ok Ok, did I type 'by' 65% instead of to 65%? I really did understand what she meant. Hope I didn't cause anyone any problems. Jen(talia) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 In a message dated 6/15/99 4:52:21 PM Central Daylight Time, Tricia6653@... writes: << Glad it is not only me that has problems cutting up this stuff. I got to the point of taking a butcher knife and a hammer to mine.... ) >> Me too! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 1999 Report Share Posted June 16, 1999 In a message dated 6/16/99 2:05:52 PM Central Daylight Time, humbrdherb@... writes: << There is just too much variance in the oil suppliers and sources to say that every coconut oil that you get has the exact same sap value. >> Just curious here, but does anyone know, and will tell, how sap values are obtained? Deni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 1999 Report Share Posted June 16, 1999 Sandy, You are right about the typo in the Country Living Handmade Soap book, but you need to check every recipe in that book. Not one of them has a safe amount of lye. They are all either 0 or1% superfatted and that just isn't enough. IMO, you should never go below 5%. There is just too much variance in the oil suppliers and sources to say that every coconut oil that you get has the exact same sap value. Hummingbird Herbals mailto:humbrdherb@... http://hummingbirdherbals.hypermart.net Valanga1@... wrote: > From: Valanga1@... > > <<Now wait a minute! In my experience, you can do this with recipes you run > through MMS calculator... I don't know about recipes out of books... I don't > know what they base their ratio on. If you are interested in trying a > recipe, run it through the calc first to make sure they haven't already > discounted water percentage.>> > > Another thing to watch out for with any recipe is typo's. One glaring > example is in the " Country Living " handmade soap book, Page 101. The recipe > calls for: > 14.5oz tepid water > 15.9oz lye > The average soapmaker would catch this error but a brand new soapmaker may > not. I don't have this book but the info was discussed on the AOL soap board > not too long ago and it was brought up again when a woman used this recipe > for her first batch of soap!!! This error is supposed to be corrected in > future printings. > I have copied numerous recipes from different soap lists only to have the > person posting the recipe repost it with corrections. If you missed the > repost of the correct recipe, you could end up with a bad batch. > Sandy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Congratulations to " PAFind, " our latest ONElist of the Week. > http://www.onelist.com > How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 1999 Report Share Posted November 2, 1999 In a message dated 11/02/1999 12:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, audrey@... writes: << Does anyone know the herb name for the rosemary? There are many different types of rosemary >> Audrey, here's what I dug up for you in my fav herb book: Rosemary (Labiatae) Other Varieties: R. o. 'Prostratus' R. o. 'Severn Sea' R. o. 'Alba' R. o. 'Suffolk Blue' R. o. 'Majorca Pink' R. o. 'Miss Jessup's Upbright' Dont know which one is the preservative one though...sorry. steph - CT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 1999 Report Share Posted November 2, 1999 > > >Does anyone know the herb name for the rosemary? There are many different >types of rosemary---I am trying to find the name of the one that is used for >preservatives. Hope this make sense. > Are you talking about Rosemary Oil Extract? (Straight herbal rosemary or rosemary essential oil isn't a preservative.) You could write to Bill Wallace at Snowdrift Farm for more info on ROE Jeanne -------------------- " Technique without ideals is a menace. Ideals without technique are a mess. " -- Karl Llewellyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Belinda, To be totally honest it does not make a hill of beans whether or not you are on the Dean's List. The question is how well you perform in the field with your skills. You may understand all of the material presented in the classroom but for example, if you are only 50 to 60% successful at starting IVs then the Dean's List does not do you much good. As for comparing the Nursing program to the Paramedic program, it is like comparing apples and oranges. I do however; have several friends who have gone into the Nursing profession after working as a Paramedic and they have been quite successful. e, LP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 I am not saying that the knowledge is not important but that the classroom knowledge alone is not enough. You also must possess the ability to do the skills. e, LP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Ahhh, but even if you have a 100% IV success rate but do not remember what drug to give and why, you are just as dangerous, or worse, than they one that can't start the IV!!!!! EMS people need to remember that to be truly good at this job you have to be educated and skillful!!!! Just like breathing, which is more important? Breathing in or breathing out?? The answer: BOTH!!! You have to do both to survive as they each perform important functions, street smarts and skills serves an important function as well as academic knowledge. Both are important to the really good paramedic/EMT/EMT-I! Just my humble opinion! Steve Dralle, EMT-P San , TX Re: Question Belinda, To be totally honest it does not make a hill of beans whether or not you are on the Dean's List. The question is how well you perform in the field with your skills. You may understand all of the material presented in the classroom but for example, if you are only 50 to 60% successful at starting IVs then the Dean's List does not do you much good. As for comparing the Nursing program to the Paramedic program, it is like comparing apples and oranges. I do however; have several friends who have gone into the Nursing profession after working as a Paramedic and they have been quite successful. e, LP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Maybe you misunderstood my question that I was asking, what I was wondering was academically what is the difference in the nursing program and the paramedic program, that is why I listed my academic level, I want to know if the challenge is equally as tough or if the nursing program is harder, as far as my skills in the field I agree 100% that is the true test of being an EMT and I have not started workign yet with my certification, just received it a few weeks ago and feel that no one ever perfects in this profession, we all just keep learning as we go. Belinda --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Very I agree, here awhile back in December when we discussed this I had thought it was really a great idea to a really smart paramedic straight out of school and place them with a preceptor that has had years of active experience and together you would benefit the two of them and turn out some really good paramedics on the street. Belinda --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 In our area of the country, the two are equivalent in academic difficulty (AS and AND) and in the level of care provided, we do it in the field, nurses work on long term care (primarily) while some nurses specialize in er, or, ccu, etc. Atwell Rasmussen, Ph.D., REMTP Lieutenant, Education and Training Greenville County Emergency Medical Services 301 University Ridge, Suite 1100 Greenville, SC 29601 Re: Question Maybe you misunderstood my question that I was asking, what I was wondering was academically what is the difference in the nursing program and the paramedic program, that is why I listed my academic level, I want to know if the challenge is equally as tough or if the nursing program is harder, as far as my skills in the field I agree 100% that is the true test of being an EMT and I have not started workign yet with my certification, just received it a few weeks ago and feel that no one ever perfects in this profession, we all just keep learning as we go. Belinda --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 I really do appreciate all the help everyone is giving me on this, and have to admit if I choose one or the other its going to be a really hard decision personally. I hardly slept last nite with all this going thru my head and just knew that I might find some answers here and have really appreciated everyones help with this. Belinda --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Belinda, I am a Paramedic and have been so for about 7 years. I am currently enrolled as a transition ADN student at San Jac College in Pasadena. This class is hard! It is a whole different way of thinking. There is a lot of work to do, and a lot of knowledge to know. Where in EMS we are more diagnosis based, nursing class is teaching me to be thinking more about the disease process. If you have ever done a care plan for a clinical, you know exactly what I am talking about. I love being a Paramedic, and I will never give it up but I like the stability that nursing will give me. I hope this helps! Audra Ferranti, EMT-P, ADN student Electric Cowgirl - East Texas wrote: Would like to know from anyone that is RN & Paramedic, do you feel the nursing program its self is harder, equal to or less hard than the paramedic program. Any information would be sooooo much appreciated. Belinda EMT-B, Currently EMT-I student in local paramedic program. So far I am not saying its been easy by no means but have found with lots of study I was able to maintain Deans List for last semester and currently maintaining a B average for the intermediate semester I am in now, Belinda --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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