Re: - saline u/s

[Guest guest]

Thanks Poly

I will post my results tommorrow after my saline Ultrasound, is this that

same as a HSG? I haven't heard of this term.

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>To: <Ashermans >

>Subject: - saline u/s

>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:43:47 +0300

>

> ,

> You were going to have your saline u/s tomorrow. Let us know what results

> you get and if possible can you get some answers to the following:

>

> What is your severity? Mild, moderate or severe.

> Is your cavity now open?

> Can you get a lining measurement also?

>

> Good luck!

> Poly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes the saline u/s does not hurt much- it is similar to having a pap smear-

using the duck-bill instrument and then insert the saline through my cervix-

I about to leave now, i have found all info from my prior doctors

appointments and i can understand the info much better. thanks for your

advise, im well prepared to ask questions - if they can't answer i see my

doctor on the 24th August with these results.

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>To: <Ashermans >

>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:08:26 +0300

>

> ,

> An HSG is performed by inserting a small catheter about the width of a

> ballpoint pen into the cervix and then injecting radioactive dye through the

> tube and up into the uterine cavity while performing an x-ray. A Saline u/s

> uses sterile saline and is similar to an HSG but I believe it is simpler and

> less painful than an HSG.

> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

> Poly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

An HSG is performed by inserting a small catheter about the width of a

ballpoint pen into the cervix and then injecting radioactive dye through the

tube and up into the uterine cavity while performing an x-ray. A Saline u/s

uses sterile saline and is similar to an HSG but I believe it is simpler and

less painful than an HSG.

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

Poly

[Guest guest]

Yesterday I went for my Saline Ultrasound. It was extremely dreadful and

painful. It was nothing like my previous one. They tried to put the tube in

my cervix with no luck, then they tried a catheter which they couldn't enter

as well, then finally used a method of " pinching " my cervix and the saline

finally gushed in me. My lining still is about 1mm every where, I saw a few

open cavities which quickly filled with saline and it was the most painful

thing because you couldn't stop the pain. I was told that that was good news

that they were open? I still a bit confused about this. I was told that I do

have adhesion at the start of my cervix, that's why it was hard to enter the

saline. They could see them with their naked eye. But clear all the way to

uterus. I was not advised about these adhesions before-maybe this occured

from my last hysterscopy because their were no problems getting the tube in

last time which was prior too my hysterscopy. The doctor that did my U/S

said he has only seen 5 cases of Ashermans Syndrome and said that he thinks

it could be more factors then just the D & C's because only 1 % of us??? have

problems while the other 99% have D & C with no damaged. I was advised that I

had ovulated from my left ovary, so at least something is working. The

ultrasound man has MROG, FRACOG, DDU, COGUS qualifications.(not sure if USA

use the same terminology.)

I will be seeing my specialist on 24/08/01 so I will keep you posted with

more of my results. Please let me know any questions you think I may need to

ask.

Another question I would like to ask, has anyone got a retreverted uterus,

which I have. I have been told my uterus sits backwards then forwards, but

advised the it doesn't make any difference, because it sits forward when

pregnant, and doesn't cause any other complications-it has to sit one way or

the other. I was advised that only 10% of women are like me.

Thanks to everyone for reading this epic of a post.

Regards

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>To: Ashermans

>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:08:42 +1000

>

> Yes the saline u/s does not hurt much- it is similar to having a pap smear-

> using the duck-bill instrument and then insert the saline through my cervix-

> I about to leave now, i have found all info from my prior doctors

> appointments and i can understand the info much better. thanks for your

> advise, im well prepared to ask questions - if they can't answer i see my

> doctor on the 24th August with these results.

>

>

>

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>>To: <Ashermans >

>>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

>>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:08:26 +0300

>>

>

>> ,

>> An HSG is performed by inserting a small catheter about the width of a

>> ballpoint pen into the cervix and then injecting radioactive dye through the

>> tube and up into the uterine cavity while performing an x-ray. A Saline u/s

>> uses sterile saline and is similar to an HSG but I believe it is simpler and

>> less painful than an HSG.

>> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

>> Poly

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear , Sorry to hear of your pain. It is a painful test. I wanted

to let you know that I (and my mom) have a retroverted uterus. It is not

abnormal but is rare (10 percent is right). My Dr told me that a

retroverted uterus can cause lower back pain during periods and pregnancy

and pain during intercourse if there is deep penetration. Other than that

it does not affect us adversely. However, it is important for your Drs to

know before uterine sergury because there are tools made specially for our

uterus that bend in the proper direction and help avoid perforating the

uterus. Hope this helps.

>

>Reply-To: Ashermans

>To: Ashermans

>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:18:18 +1000

>

>Yesterday I went for my Saline Ultrasound. It was extremely dreadful and

>painful. It was nothing like my previous one. They tried to put the tube in

>my cervix with no luck, then they tried a catheter which they couldn't

>enter

>as well, then finally used a method of " pinching " my cervix and the saline

>finally gushed in me. My lining still is about 1mm every where, I saw a few

>open cavities which quickly filled with saline and it was the most painful

>thing because you couldn't stop the pain. I was told that that was good

>news

>that they were open? I still a bit confused about this. I was told that I

>do

>have adhesion at the start of my cervix, that's why it was hard to enter

>the

>saline. They could see them with their naked eye. But clear all the way to

>uterus. I was not advised about these adhesions before-maybe this occured

>from my last hysterscopy because their were no problems getting the tube in

>last time which was prior too my hysterscopy. The doctor that did my U/S

>said he has only seen 5 cases of Ashermans Syndrome and said that he thinks

>it could be more factors then just the D & C's because only 1 % of us??? have

>problems while the other 99% have D & C with no damaged. I was advised that

>I

>had ovulated from my left ovary, so at least something is working. The

>ultrasound man has MROG, FRACOG, DDU, COGUS qualifications.(not sure if USA

>use the same terminology.)

>

>I will be seeing my specialist on 24/08/01 so I will keep you posted with

>more of my results. Please let me know any questions you think I may need

>to

>ask.

>

>

>Another question I would like to ask, has anyone got a retreverted uterus,

>which I have. I have been told my uterus sits backwards then forwards, but

>advised the it doesn't make any difference, because it sits forward when

>pregnant, and doesn't cause any other complications-it has to sit one way

>or

>the other. I was advised that only 10% of women are like me.

>

>Thanks to everyone for reading this epic of a post.

>

>Regards

>

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> >

> >To: Ashermans

> >Subject: Re: - saline u/s

> >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:08:42 +1000

> >

>

> > Yes the saline u/s does not hurt much- it is similar to having a pap

>smear-

> > using the duck-bill instrument and then insert the saline through my

>cervix-

> > I about to leave now, i have found all info from my prior doctors

> > appointments and i can understand the info much better. thanks for your

> > advise, im well prepared to ask questions - if they can't answer i see

>my

> > doctor on the 24th August with these results.

> >

> >

> >

> > ----------

> >>

> >>To: <Ashermans >

> >>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

> >>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:08:26 +0300

> >>

> >

> >> ,

> >> An HSG is performed by inserting a small catheter about the width of a

> >> ballpoint pen into the cervix and then injecting radioactive dye

>through the

> >> tube and up into the uterine cavity while performing an x-ray. A Saline

>u/s

> >> uses sterile saline and is similar to an HSG but I believe it is

>simpler and

> >> less painful than an HSG.

> >> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

> >> Poly

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I also have a retroverted uterus. They are not the norm but not

extremely uncommon. Many years ago when I first went to a gyn and he

noticed this he told me that it may make it a little more difficult

for me to get pregnant than someone without a retroverted uterus, but

once pregnant it tips forward. Last summer when my uterus was

perferated during an operative hysteroscopy, my doc said that the

retroverted uterus was partly a factor along with the obvious one of

my cervix being scarred shut. So when he pushed the scope through,

between the presssure he was applying and the angle of the

retroverted uterus, he perferated the uterus. I was glad that my new

doc is aware of this. A retroverted uterus in itslf thoguh doesn't

really have anything to do with Ashermans, but just adds to

my " uniqueness " . I am sorry the your test was painful. We have all

beem there and feel for you. Hugs.

Karin

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for the information,

It is so great to get information, help and advise from people that know

what you are going through.

Regards

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>To: <Ashermans >

>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:35:05 +0300

>

> ,

> Here is an article I kept on anteverted and retroverted uterus. I have a

> anteverted one (tilted forward towards the bladder). It sort of explained

> why I always wanted to urinate more than others.

> Poly

>

>

> The medical term for tipped uterus is anteverted " (tilted forward) or

> " retroverted " (tilted backwards). Rarely does either position affect

> fertility.

>

> The uterus consists of the cervix, which is about 2 inches long, and

> the body, or fundus, which sits on top of the cervix and is about the size

> of a pear. The fundus may be somewhat bigger in women who have had a baby

> and smaller in women who haven't had a baby or are in menopause.

> Both the cervix and the body of the uterus are attached to the pelvic

> sidewalls by several flexible ligaments. The ligaments allow the uterus to

> tilt slightly forward or backward. Women who have had vaginal deliveries

> have more flexible ligaments than women who haven't had a baby vaginally.

> Most women have a slightly anteverted uterus that is flexed toward the

> bladder; about one in four or five women have a retroverted uterus, tilted

> toward the spine.

> Neither uterine position would, in and of itself, interfere with

> fertility. But some women have a retroverted uterus associated with

> endometriosis or pelvic inflammatory disease. In both cases, scar tissue

> could interfere with the normal movement of the egg through the fallopian

> tubes to the uterus, thus decreasing the chance of getting pregnant by

> preventing the egg from reaching the sperm (see Uterine Problems).

> A severely tipped uterus can also cause problems during pelvic exams,

> because inserting a speculum and trying to look at the cervix could be

> somewhat uncomfortable (see Cervical Problems).

> And a retroverted uterus may cause discomfort during sexual

> intercourse for both partners if the penis hits the uterus when it moves

> into the upper portion of the vagina. Changing positions and allowing the

> uterus to move will usually lessen the discomfort.

> If you're trying to conceive and you're told you have a tipped uterus,

> ask your doctor whether the tipping is caused by something like scarring or

> endometriosis that may interfere with your fertility. Otherwise, it

> shouldn't reduce your chances of becoming pregnant.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Here is an article I kept on anteverted and retroverted uterus. I have a

anteverted one (tilted forward towards the bladder). It sort of explained

why I always wanted to urinate more than others.

Poly

The medical term for tipped uterus is anteverted " (tilted forward) or

" retroverted " (tilted backwards). Rarely does either position affect

fertility.

The uterus consists of the cervix, which is about 2 inches long, and

the body, or fundus, which sits on top of the cervix and is about the size

of a pear. The fundus may be somewhat bigger in women who have had a baby

and smaller in women who haven't had a baby or are in menopause.

Both the cervix and the body of the uterus are attached to the pelvic

sidewalls by several flexible ligaments. The ligaments allow the uterus to

tilt slightly forward or backward. Women who have had vaginal deliveries

have more flexible ligaments than women who haven't had a baby vaginally.

Most women have a slightly anteverted uterus that is flexed toward the

bladder; about one in four or five women have a retroverted uterus, tilted

toward the spine.

Neither uterine position would, in and of itself, interfere with

fertility. But some women have a retroverted uterus associated with

endometriosis or pelvic inflammatory disease. In both cases, scar tissue

could interfere with the normal movement of the egg through the fallopian

tubes to the uterus, thus decreasing the chance of getting pregnant by

preventing the egg from reaching the sperm (see Uterine Problems).

A severely tipped uterus can also cause problems during pelvic exams,

because inserting a speculum and trying to look at the cervix could be

somewhat uncomfortable (see Cervical Problems).

And a retroverted uterus may cause discomfort during sexual

intercourse for both partners if the penis hits the uterus when it moves

into the upper portion of the vagina. Changing positions and allowing the

uterus to move will usually lessen the discomfort.

If you're trying to conceive and you're told you have a tipped uterus,

ask your doctor whether the tipping is caused by something like scarring or

endometriosis that may interfere with your fertility. Otherwise, it

shouldn't reduce your chances of becoming pregnant.

[Guest guest]

,

You sound like you have a closed cervix or had one. Could you therefore go

to the endometriosis chart we have made and enter your details? Click on:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ashermans/database?method=reportRows & tbl=5

then click on add record.

You have 2 hysteroscopies so far. Were they operative ones or diagnostic

ones?

It sounds to me like your scarring is just in the cervix and the bottom part

of your uterus. Have a look at this link to see what the basic anatomy of

the uterus is like: http://www.fibroids.net/html/anatomy.htm

Personally I believe that the fact that it was so painful for you may even

be a good sign, showing that the saline has broken loose some of the milder

adhesions and it will be interesting to note if your periods resume as of

next time you are supposed to be due. I will be looking forward to finding

out if my theory is right.

Poly

[Guest guest]

The thing is Poly that this is the first time they have had trouble opening

my cervix previous to this the tube went up so easy with my Saline U/S in

decemeber 2000. I think the last hysterscopy must have closed my cervix up,

only at the entrance because the saline went in really quick once my cervix

was pinched. I practically have a lining of 1mm(nothing)-and have for about

3 years and have not bled or spotted for that time. My last hysteroscopy,

was a operative one dividing intra-uterine adhesions, my one before was to

D & C retained products of conception, had a previous hystescopy before that

for retained products from my missed miscarriage.

Previously by doctors I was told I had a retroverted uterus, and posted and

ask everyone a couple of days ago if they have one thinking it could be a

factor. I have just read my U/S report from december last year and it says I

have a anteverted uterus. So mine must tilt forward not backwards. But I

think this is a very good thing to look into, i have already voted on the

poll.

regards

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>To: <Ashermans >

>Subject: Re: - saline u/s

>Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:07:48 +0300

>

> ,

> You sound like you have a closed cervix or had one. Could you therefore go

> to the endometriosis chart we have made and enter your details? Click on:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ashermans/database?method=reportRows & tbl=5

> then click on add record.

>

> You have 2 hysteroscopies so far. Were they operative ones or diagnostic

> ones?

>

> It sounds to me like your scarring is just in the cervix and the bottom part

> of your uterus. Have a look at this link to see what the basic anatomy of

> the uterus is like: http://www.fibroids.net/html/anatomy.htm

>

> Personally I believe that the fact that it was so painful for you may even

> be a good sign, showing that the saline has broken loose some of the milder

> adhesions and it will be interesting to note if your periods resume as of

> next time you are supposed to be due. I will be looking forward to finding

> out if my theory is right.

>

> Poly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I need to clarify a few points for your profile. Sorry I got a little

confused.

How many operative and/or diagnostic surgeries have you had AFTER

being diagnosed with ashermans?

Poly

[Guest guest]

,

I need to clarify a few points for your profile. Sorry I got a little

confused.

How many operative and/or diagnostic surgeries have you had AFTER

being diagnosed with ashermans?

Poly