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GEEZ!! You didn't get enough labwork done!! hahaha I'm no expert on

a lot of this---perhaps some of our nurses or medical folks can

comment. Let us know what you find out about that high iron, though.

We learn so much from each other. Your cholesterol--slightly above

range. I wonder why?

Janie

> Apr 5, 03 Apr 22, 04 Ranges

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> Glucose 88 87 Fasting 65-99

> Urea nitrogen, serum 11 8 7-25

> creatinine, serum 0.9 0.8 0.5-1.2

> bun/creatinine ratio 12.2 10.0 6-25

> sodium, serum 140 137 135-146

> potassium, serum 4.0 3.8 3.5-5.3

> chloride, serum 105 99 98-110

> magnesium 2.3 1.8 1.5-2.5

> calcium, serum 9.4 9.6 8.5-10.4

> phosphate, serum 2.9 3.0 2.5-4.5

> uric acid, serum 5.4 5.2 1.7-7.5

> albumin, serum 4.2 4.1 3.7-5.1

> globulin 3.7 3.3 2.2-4.2

> protein, total serum 7.9 7.4 6.0-8.3

> a/g ratio 1.1 1.2 0.8-2.0

> bilirubin, total 0.7 1.1 0.2-1.3

> bilirubin, direct 0.1 0.2 0.0-0.3

> alkaline phosphatase 85 86 20-125

> iron, serum 66 179 H 35-175

> iron binding capacity 313 290 250-400

> % saturation 21 62 H 15-50

> ggtp 25 20 2-60

> ld, serum 116 129 100-250

> ast (sgot) 14 15 2-35

> alt (sgpt) 10 13 2-40

> cholesterol, serum 205 H 209 H <200

> cholesterol, percent 66.0 0.75.0

> triglycerides, serum 113 112 <150

> hdl cholesterol 45 57 >=40

> ldl 137 H 130 H see comments

> coronary risk ratio

> (chol/hdl) 4.6 3.7 avg risk 3.4-4.3

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Here are the results of my blood test. When I called they said my antibodies

were high and I need to see an endo (omg what's scarier

the anitbodies or the endo!!!! ) I almost said why - it sounds like I have

hashi's and there isn't much I can do. Looks like I got one free

but not both.

I'd love to have your thoughts on there (and hopefully they will post ok as i

copied and pasted from wordpad.)

Test name In range Out of range Ref

Range

Thyroglobulin & ATA

Thyroglobulin 4

3-56

Thyroglobulin antibody <2.0

<2.0

Please note positive antibodies generally will cause thyroglobulin levels

to be lower than those seen without the positive antibodies.

The methodology for determining this thryoglobulin antibody level is

different than those used for measure thyroid peroxidase ab and

thyroglobulin ab.

ESR, westergen 28 H

0-20

Thyroid peroxidase AB >70 H

<2

Thyroid ab (ata, tpo)

Thyroid peroxidase ab >70 H

<2

thyroglobulin ab <2

<2

ana, eia w/rfx ifa

ana, eia w/rfx ifa positive H

negative

ana, titer, ifa 1:160 H

<1:40

ana pattern, ifa centromere

t3/t4/tsh

t3 uptake 25.7

25.0 - 35.0%

t4 total 6.4

4.5-12.0

free thyroxine index 1.64

1.12-4.20

tsh 0.5 L

0.40-5.5

t3 autoantibody negative

negative

tsh autoantibody negative

negative

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The ANA is high. My neuro tested it after my follow up MRI showed no change

after the car accident. The PA insisted on testing it

again so that's why she tested it. The neuro wanted to see if something else was

going on.

hmmm don't know if this will affect my personal injust claim though. Hope not.

The only thing I'm afraid of is going to an endo and having them say oh sorry

stop that Thryolar and take this $ynthroid.

Also the results don't show an actual number - just that it's above 70. So it's

like if it's 71 that is a little different than 700 or 2000.

And that could explain why the ANA is high - because of the thyroid antibodies.

Louise

> Hi,

>

>

>

> Some of your labs confused me. I just didn't understand how to read

> them. Maybe I am just stupid today lol. Looks like your ANA is high.

> Are they testing for Lupus? I have also read, however, that ANA can be

> a little high with autoimmune thyroid disease.

>

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Hi Louise,

My lab said >1000, and the doctor's letter to me (that's how I got my

diagnosis, not a call or a follow-up visit with a complete run-dwon of

what it is or what I should do to keep healthy etc...) said:

...she clearly had underlying Hashimoto's thyroiditis as a cause of her

non-goitrous hypothyroidism, with anti-TPO antibodies of greater than

1000. This clearly indicates a need

for life-long thyroid hormone replacement/suppressive treatment. She

had been attempting to cut her thyroid hormone tablets to get a

smaller dose (yah, 'cause 75 mcg was making me go bezerk with anxiety

and heart palps etc...), but this is technically quite difficult. Her

levels were

in the normal range (after medication), but her actual dosage was

uncertain. I therefore asked her to take the .05mg tablet size of

levoxyl daily so that we are absolutely certain of her precise dosage.

Her comprehensive metabolic panel was gratifyingly unremarkable. Her

lipids were borderline elevated with a cholesterol of 207,

tryglycerides 136, HDL of 51, but LDL borderline elevated at 129.

Yah, so there's me. Has your doctor discussed anything about your ANA

levels and what they think is causing the high antibodies there? I

have read that an injury or trauma can often trigger an autoimmune

disease to flare up, when it was previously lying dormant. I would

look into this as a case for your lawyer. It's really crappy that you

are no feeling well since this accident. Just plain crappy if you ask me!

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Hi ,

Well with the original ANA test the neuro said it was only one sub test that was

elevated so he wasn't too worried. And it might be tied

to the thyroid antibodies.

I'll give the info to my attorney and neuro and see what they say.

Louise who does NOT want to see an endo.

> Hi Louise,

>

>

> Yah, so there's me. Has your doctor discussed anything about your ANA

> levels and what they think is causing the high antibodies there? I

> have read that an injury or trauma can often trigger an autoimmune

> disease to flare up, when it was previously lying dormant. I would

> look into this as a case for your lawyer. It's really crappy that you

> are no feeling well since this accident. Just plain crappy if you ask me!

>

>

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While driving home I was thinking maybe I should just go see my

regular Dr and see what she says. Most likely it is Hashi's so there

isn't anything I can do about the antibodies (ie I can't take a

medication for the antibodies.) So all I can do is treat the

hypothyroidism.

And I am afraid if I see an endo they will say oh your TSH is too

low, cut your dose and what your are on Thyrolar no here take this

synthetic T4 only med you don't need T3 and I only test TSH etc.

Phooey!!!!!

Louise

PS I will let all of you know what neuro says.

> > Hi Louise,

> >

>

> >

> > Yah, so there's me. Has your doctor discussed anything about your

ANA

> > levels and what they think is causing the high antibodies there? I

> > have read that an injury or trauma can often trigger an autoimmune

> > disease to flare up, when it was previously lying dormant. I would

> > look into this as a case for your lawyer. It's really crappy that

you

> > are no feeling well since this accident. Just plain crappy if you

ask me!

> >

> >

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Hi! Really, I can't make heads or tails of this. I can't read it going

across. When I post anything with a table-like format, I just make-shift,

spacing, as I go across. I can't tell anything about this.

Blood test results

Here are the results of my blood test. When I called they said my antibodies

were high and I need to see an endo (omg what's scarier

the anitbodies or the endo!!!! ) I almost said why - it sounds like I have

hashi's and there isn't much I can do. Looks like I got one free

but not both.

I'd love to have your thoughts on there (and hopefully they will post ok as i

copied and pasted from wordpad.)

Test name In range Out of range Ref

Range

Thyroglobulin & ATA

Thyroglobulin 4

3-56

Thyroglobulin antibody <2.0

<2.0

Please note positive antibodies generally will cause thyroglobulin levels

to be lower than those seen without the positive antibodies.

The methodology for determining this thryoglobulin antibody level is

different than those used for measure thyroid peroxidase ab and

thyroglobulin ab.

ESR, westergen 28 H

0-20

Thyroid peroxidase AB >70 H

<2

Thyroid ab (ata, tpo)

Thyroid peroxidase ab >70 H

<2

thyroglobulin ab <2

<2

ana, eia w/rfx ifa

ana, eia w/rfx ifa positive H

negative

ana, titer, ifa 1:160 H

<1:40

ana pattern, ifa centromere

t3/t4/tsh

t3 uptake 25.7

25.0 - 35.0%

t4 total 6.4

4.5-12.0

free thyroxine index 1.64

1.12-4.20

tsh 0.5 L

0.40-5.5

t3 autoantibody negative

negative

tsh autoantibody negative

negative

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My ANA was negative, even in the face of very high thyroid antibodies, both

types. There are other antibody tests for lupus that are more reliable than the

ANA, and I'm not totally convinced that I don't have lupus, myself.

Re: Blood test results

Hi,

DOn't panic about the antibodies. They just solidify that your body is

doing something crazy against the thyroid. Mine were well over 1000

lol. I have read that many people in the population have antibodies as

well, but do not have thryoid disease. I wonder how true this is. I

would bet that those people are in the beginning phase of autoimmune

thyroid disease. When I spoke to my new doctor yesterday (he's just a

GP), he said that with Hashi's, the symptoms come on fast, your

thyroid burns out within a few months, and then you are hypo, take a

pill, and move on. I just did not have the energy to debate that crazy

philosophy. I told him the last visit, that I had had symptoms for 15+

years and he was not convinced at all. Why the hell would I make that

up? They were all the same symptoms that I have now, but some were not

as severe or they waxed and waned. I find it odd that any doctor could

not relate chronic insomnia, heart palpitations, stomach problems,

anxiety, lower back aches (which are constant all the time now) and

high cholesterol labs as anything but symptoms of my Hashi's. Oh,

sorry, I went off on a tangent there.

Some of your labs confused me. I just didn't understand how to read

them. Maybe I am just stupid today lol. Looks like your ANA is high.

Are they testing for Lupus? I have also read, however, that ANA can be

a little high with autoimmune thyroid disease.

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