Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!! Janie

[Guest guest]

Hi Janie,

Please ignore the first post, not sure which key i pressed but it

disappeared. Welcome Back.

I am awaiting results of a thyroid profile (thats everything) this

week. A sympathetic doctor with a special interest in thryoid is

going to write to me with the results. They are long awaited !!! I am

scared to go up too quickly because of my hyper crash. That was so

frightening. I cant wait to get up to 2 grains because i associate

that dose with " happier times " . The menopause is another problem i

have to solve. I have asked the doctor for advice but thinking

logically i will probably need a hormone test right? I dont want to

throw myself into estrogen/progresterone treatment until i know which

one i need. or both??

I will post my results when i receive them, would appreciate the

expert opinions on this forum, Is the free T3 the most important

detail to look for? Boy do i have a lot to learn.

Thanks again

SheilaF

> Hi SheilaF. I've been out of town for a few days and just saw your

> post....

>

> Sheila, why not go up to 2 grains? Sure seems like that if you were

> once fine on 2 grains, you could move back up to that. And it

sounds

> like you may end up needing more down the line. I found my thyroid

> got worse as I neared peri-meno. I am currently on 3 grains...

>

> Why did your doc not test your free T3? It might be a test you want

> to insist on. Your goal, labwise, is to get that free T3 towards

the

> top of the range to rid yourself of symptoms.

>

> You hang in there, Sheila. You are probably just under-dosed and

your

> hypo is still kicking in, causing the aches and pains.

>

> Janie )

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi SheilaF. Yes, it's the free T3 you want to have tested and watch.

T3 is the active thyroid hormone. It makes a difference in every part

of your body. If you are going by labs, your goal is to get the free

T3 towards the top of the range, if not slightly higher. That is

where most folks lose all their hypo symptoms. (Free before T3 means

that which is unbound and available).

I am nearing meno, too, and have decided to only be on natural

progesterone after reading Dr. Lee's book. I am also quit impressed

with the interaction between progesterone and thyroid! I only do 25

mg. a day, and so far, I am impressed!

I also take 325 mg. iron a day to prevent problems.

Thanks for the welcome back. We went to see my youngest son graduate

from the Univ. of Texas!!!

Janie )

> Please ignore the first post, not sure which key i pressed but it

> disappeared. Welcome Back.

> I am awaiting results of a thyroid profile (thats everything) this

> week. A sympathetic doctor with a special interest in thryoid is

> going to write to me with the results. They are long awaited !!! I

am

> scared to go up too quickly because of my hyper crash. That was so

> frightening. I cant wait to get up to 2 grains because i associate

> that dose with " happier times " . The menopause is another problem i

> have to solve. I have asked the doctor for advice but thinking

> logically i will probably need a hormone test right? I dont want to

> throw myself into estrogen/progresterone treatment until i know

which

> one i need. or both??

> I will post my results when i receive them, would appreciate the

> expert opinions on this forum, Is the free T3 the most important

> detail to look for? Boy do i have a lot to learn.

>

> Thanks again

> SheilaF

>

> > Hi SheilaF. I've been out of town for a few days and just saw

your

> > post....

> >

> > Sheila, why not go up to 2 grains? Sure seems like that if you

were

> > once fine on 2 grains, you could move back up to that. And it

> sounds

> > like you may end up needing more down the line. I found my

thyroid

> > got worse as I neared peri-meno. I am currently on 3 grains...

> >

> > Why did your doc not test your free T3? It might be a test you

want

> > to insist on. Your goal, labwise, is to get that free T3 towards

> the

> > top of the range to rid yourself of symptoms.

> >

> > You hang in there, Sheila. You are probably just under-dosed and

> your

> > hypo is still kicking in, causing the aches and pains.

> >

> > Janie )

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Janie,

I have a question about the interaction between progesterone and thyroid that

you

mention here.

When you started using progesterone, did you note that you needed less Armour

than

before or did you notice no differences? From the reading I " ve done on natural

progesterone, most references state that natural progesterone " optimizes "

thyroid.

Do you know what exactly this means? Do it mean it optimizes the gland or does

it

mean it optimizes the med one is taking? Or what? I guess what I'm concerned

about

is if there's any possibility of going hyper after starting progesterone cream

since it

" optimizes " thyroid.

Also, do you split that 25 mg/day into two doses or do you use it just once a

day? In

the AM or at bedtime?

Any insight on your, or anyone else's here, part would be appreciated much!

Thanks,

Janet

> I am nearing meno, too, and have decided to only be on natural

> progesterone after reading Dr. Lee's book. I am also quit impressed

> with the interaction between progesterone and thyroid! I only do 25

> mg. a day, and so far, I am impressed!

[Guest guest]

Don't hold me to this one, but I know that I read somewhere that progesterone

should probably be taken at bedtime because it does induse a more relaxed state,

eventually. I had forgotten about reading that until you asked these questions,

just don't know where I read it.

Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!! Janie

Janie,

I have a question about the interaction between progesterone and thyroid that

you

mention here.

When you started using progesterone, did you note that you needed less Armour

than

before or did you notice no differences? From the reading I " ve done on

natural

progesterone, most references state that natural progesterone " optimizes "

thyroid.

Do you know what exactly this means? Do it mean it optimizes the gland or

does it

mean it optimizes the med one is taking? Or what? I guess what I'm concerned

about

is if there's any possibility of going hyper after starting progesterone cream

since it

" optimizes " thyroid.

Also, do you split that 25 mg/day into two doses or do you use it just once a

day? In

the AM or at bedtime?

Any insight on your, or anyone else's here, part would be appreciated much!

Thanks,

Janet

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have taken natural sublingual progesterone for many years, for PMS I have

it sent from Madison pharmacy. http://madisonpharmacy.com/index.html

It indeed makes you relaxed, or less aggitated, it can you sleepy with large

amounts. It also raises your temperature. It is the same hormone pregnant

woman are loaded with., so it can make you a bit hungrier too.

I know it makes your own thyroid gland work better. I don't know if it would

make the meds work better...I guess it would especially when you are taking

the armor glandular thyroid, instead of synthetic.

nne

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Subject: Re: Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!!

Janie

Don't hold me to this one, but I know that I read somewhere that

progesterone should probably be taken at bedtime because it does induse a

more relaxed state, eventually. I had forgotten about reading that until

you asked these questions, just don't know where I read it.

Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!!

Janie

Janie,

I have a question about the interaction between progesterone and thyroid

that you

mention here.

When you started using progesterone, did you note that you needed less

Armour than

before or did you notice no differences? From the reading I " ve done on

natural

progesterone, most references state that natural progesterone " optimizes "

thyroid.

Do you know what exactly this means? Do it mean it optimizes the gland or

does it

mean it optimizes the med one is taking? Or what? I guess what I'm

concerned about

is if there's any possibility of going hyper after starting progesterone

cream since it

" optimizes " thyroid.

Also, do you split that 25 mg/day into two doses or do you use it just

once a day? In

the AM or at bedtime?

Any insight on your, or anyone else's here, part would be appreciated

much!

Thanks,

Janet

[Guest guest]

Yes, I know that when we were pregnant (a long time now for me, lol), we had

those wonderful rosy cheeks because of it. Is the sublingual that you order

prescription?

RE: Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!!

Janie

Hi ,

I have taken natural sublingual progesterone for many years, for PMS I have

it sent from Madison pharmacy. http://madisonpharmacy.com/index.html

It indeed makes you relaxed, or less aggitated, it can you sleepy with large

amounts. It also raises your temperature. It is the same hormone pregnant

woman are loaded with., so it can make you a bit hungrier too.

I know it makes your own thyroid gland work better. I don't know if it would

make the meds work better...I guess it would especially when you are taking

the armor glandular thyroid, instead of synthetic.

nne

[Guest guest]

does the pill have to be a sublingual form? I was thinking all armour could be

taken sublingually from what I read here...???? still trying to learn!!

Cris

RE: Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!!

Janie

Hi ,

I have taken natural sublingual progesterone for many years, for PMS I have

it sent from Madison pharmacy. http://madisonpharmacy.com/index.html

It indeed makes you relaxed, or less aggitated, it can you sleepy with large

amounts. It also raises your temperature. It is the same hormone pregnant

woman are loaded with., so it can make you a bit hungrier too.

I know it makes your own thyroid gland work better. I don't know if it would

make the meds work better...I guess it would especially when you are taking

the armor glandular thyroid, instead of synthetic.

nne

[Guest guest]

> does the pill have to be a sublingual form? I was thinking all

>armour could be taken sublingually from what I read here...????

>still trying to learn!!

Hi Cris. Are you asking about progesterone or Armour? Because what

you had responded to was in reference to progesterone in a cream form

(or as I take it---in a lozenge from a compounding pharmacy). You

know, it's actually better to take almost ANYTHING subligually!! But

boy, would it be expensive. And don't worry---we are all still

learning! Oh, and yes, all Armour can be taken sublingually.

Janie

[Guest guest]

LOL yeah, armour!!

oops!!! & Thanks!

Cris

Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!! Janie

> does the pill have to be a sublingual form? I was thinking all

>armour could be taken sublingually from what I read here...????

>still trying to learn!!

Hi Cris. Are you asking about progesterone or Armour? Because what

you had responded to was in reference to progesterone in a cream form

(or as I take it---in a lozenge from a compounding pharmacy). You

know, it's actually better to take almost ANYTHING subligually!! But

boy, would it be expensive. And don't worry---we are all still

learning! Oh, and yes, all Armour can be taken sublingually.

Janie

[Guest guest]

I believe she was telling me about the progesterone, sublingual, that she gets

from a particular pharmacy.

RE: Re: HELP PLEASE - CALM ME DOWN !!!!

Janie

Hi ,

I have taken natural sublingual progesterone for many years, for PMS I have

it sent from Madison pharmacy. http://madisonpharmacy.com/index.html

It indeed makes you relaxed, or less aggitated, it can you sleepy with large

amounts. It also raises your temperature. It is the same hormone pregnant

woman are loaded with., so it can make you a bit hungrier too.

I know it makes your own thyroid gland work better. I don't know if it would

make the meds work better...I guess it would especially when you are taking

the armor glandular thyroid, instead of synthetic.

nne