Re: Hashimotos after taking Thyroxine?

[Guest guest]

-> What happens to the thyroid gland after it has been " knocked out " by

> antibodies? This may sound daft, but does the body continue to

> produce antibodies to the gland which isn't working? I jave just had

> a virus and felt stabbing pains in what I thought to be thryoid gland.

>

From what I gather Caroline, the antibodies come down as the thyroid

shrivels up to a small mass of nothing. Lovely isn't it?

[Guest guest]

I was wondering this too - as I would bet, when I first had symptoms, if I had

antibodies checked, they would have been high -

wonder if they'd show anything now - would the dr. then think we were fine,

because it had shriveled to not show antiboidies? Make sense?

Cris

Re: Hashimotos after taking Thyroxine?

-> What happens to the thyroid gland after it has been " knocked out " by

> antibodies? This may sound daft, but does the body continue to

> produce antibodies to the gland which isn't working? I jave just had

> a virus and felt stabbing pains in what I thought to be thryoid gland.

>

From what I gather Caroline, the antibodies come down as the thyroid

shrivels up to a small mass of nothing. Lovely isn't it?

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[Guest guest]

Cris

I had Hashimot's with both hyper and hypo for the last 10 yrs, at least, with

most of the hyper episodes happening 6 to 7 yrs before that and on up to the

time that I crashed to hypo. This year, back in March, I did my antibodies

levels in both major kinds for Hashimoto's, and, guess what, they were both over

1000 and almost 2000, respectively. Noone can tell me that a shrunken fibrotic

gland can't be attacked because that is the condition that mine was in at this

point in time.

Re: Re: Hashimotos after taking Thyroxine?

I was wondering this too - as I would bet, when I first had symptoms, if I had

antibodies checked, they would have been high -

wonder if they'd show anything now - would the dr. then think we were fine,

because it had shriveled to not show antiboidies? Make sense?

Cris

[Guest guest]

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I think at some point in time your levels will start to drop .

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> Re: Re: Hashimotos after taking

Thyroxine?

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> I was wondering this too - as I would bet, when I first had

symptoms, if I had antibodies checked, they would have been high -

> wonder if they'd show anything now - would the dr. then think we

were fine, because it had shriveled to not show antiboidies? Make sense?

> Cris

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[Guest guest]

thanks !

what do you mean by having your antiboidies in both major kinds ....

is that 2 separate tests??

Cris

Re: Re: Hashimotos after taking Thyroxine?

I was wondering this too - as I would bet, when I first had symptoms, if I had

antibodies checked, they would have been high -

wonder if they'd show anything now - would the dr. then think we were fine,

because it had shriveled to not show antiboidies? Make sense?

Cris

[Guest guest]

They probably will, but I think that the question was about whether or not

antibodies go away very quickly, after doing their initial attack. From my

point of view, obviously, they do NOT always, even when the gland is half dead

and fibrotic. Remember, I have been a known hypo for many yrs.

Re: Re: Hashimotos after taking

Thyroxine?

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> I was wondering this too - as I would bet, when I first had

symptoms, if I had antibodies checked, they would have been high -

> wonder if they'd show anything now - would the dr. then think we

were fine, because it had shriveled to not show antiboidies? Make sense?

> Cris

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[Guest guest]

They consider it same test, but for the two major antibodies t'wd thyroid, which

are antithyroglobulin and then, antithyroidperoxidase. Both of mine are

extremely high.

Re: Re: Hashimotos after taking Thyroxine?

I was wondering this too - as I would bet, when I first had symptoms, if I

had antibodies checked, they would have been high -

wonder if they'd show anything now - would the dr. then think we were fine,

because it had shriveled to not show antiboidies? Make sense?

Cris

[Guest guest]

> They probably will, but I think that the question was about whether

or not antibodies go away very quickly, after doing their initial

attack. From my point of view, obviously, they do NOT always, even

when the gland is half dead and fibrotic. Remember, I have been a

known hypo for many yrs.

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Oh no, I don't think they go away quickly at all. I think they rise

over a period until you feel like a big piece of rotting flesh, go to

the doctor, find out (FINALLY) that you are hypo, take meds, and over

many years your thyroid swrivels and dies and then your antibodies

begin dropping. Although, if I am correct about my mother being hypo

from Hashi's, then I would think she may go against the rules since

she appears to have a swollen thyroid gland, and has for about 20

years. It doesn't look like it has changed too much in size (maybe a

little larger. I'd have to go look at pics). I know in my heart that I

have been dealing with Hashi's since my teens. Perhaps even before

that. I think it was certainly a case of being subclinical, but weird

stuff was surfacing with me all the time. I remember slurring for a

period of time (everything waxed and waned) and would ask my friends

if they could tell that it was happening. ALong with that, I had heart

palps that started in the teens that landed me into the ER twice until

they gave me betablockers). I think my anxiety heightened after the

heart palps started because when you are a kid and stuff is happening

with your heart, who wouldn't get anxious? I also remember having

chronic problems with my stomach (ulcer-like pains). They could only

find inflammation in my duodeneum. I took cimidedine (tagamet) for

years (don't know if this is associated with hypothyroidism, but if

not, then stress must have been the contributing factor). I had high

cholesterol labs, I lost my memory (just like now) for a period of 6

months. I thought I was going crazy! I had lower back aches that I

thought were from my cheerleading days. These are now chronic 24/7,

not just from standing for long periods of time like before. I lost my

appetite for long stretches of time, but never lost weight with it,

just seemed to stabalize (but I could gain weight if I ate more than I

normally ate, which wasn't much). I had a few weird flare-ups with

skin eruptions (they happened on my face, but mainly around my

hairline and scalp) just like now, but now I have not been successful

in getting rid of them. I have always had peaches & cream skin. Oh, I

also started noticing wiry hair growing into my usually soft, shiny

blond hair (it has also darkened substantially over the past 5-6

years). If these are not symptoms of Hashi's, then I guess I was a

hypochondriac as everyone called me. No, but really, I know that I had

Hashi's then and I am sad, yet happy to finally know that I was not

crazy. All those symptoms I have mentioned are back, plus a whole slew

more. SInce being on Armour, I have seen some improvements with energy

and anxiety, but I have a long way to go. My basal this morning was

97.2, and it just solidified my suspicions that at 2 grains, I was

slipping back into hypoland once again - SIGH! Such a crazy disease. I

can only imagine what some of the other gals are going through who had

high TSH labs and low T4 & T3 levels. Surprisingly, when I finally got

the determining labs, my TSH was only 6.63, with my T4 and T3's in the

normal range (not even the low end), yet my hair was falling out so

quickly, I was certain that I would be bald in a few months. Okay,

once again I went off on a tangent. I am really bad at doing that lol!