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Pat,

This is a very interesting difference of opinion between these two docs. Stick with Dr. Olive. By the way, Dr. Indman doesn't use the resectoscope. He feels that by waiting for bleeds to stop on their own they almost always do and he doesn't introduce any energy (heat) into the uterus. Heat can damage the lining and you have to be extra careful. He said that the bleeds almost always stop. You may want to mention this to Dr. Olive.

Who is your RE anyway? Where is he located? I am curious since I go to Dr. Katz in SF. Good luck on the 13th!

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Pat- wishing you the best of luck - and lots of prayers coming your way- for your surgery on June 13th- I hope all goes wonderfully- I'm glad you chose to go with Dr Olive- he recommended (and trained) Dr Palter- and I was very pleased with him!!!!

"I know God won't give me anything I can't handle, I just wish he didn't trust me so much"

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Join us again next year in remembering the millions of people affected by CHD on 2/14/2002: "A Day for Hearts: Congenital Heart Defects Awareness Day!"

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Pat,

I had a D & C at 11 weeks for a bligted ovum that was diagnosed at 9 weeks so

the BS about not seeing AS with procedures that early is just that...BS!

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Thank you . That makes me feel good! I believe I am going to be

the first of the group to actually be treated by Dr. Olive. I hope to

give him a great report card afterwards. So far, he has been really

great to deal with.

Pat

> Pat- wishing you the best of luck - and lots of prayers coming your

way- for

> your surgery on June 13th- I hope all goes wonderfully- I'm glad

you chose to

> go with Dr Olive- he recommended (and trained) Dr Palter- and I was

very

> pleased with him!!!!

>

>

> " I know God won't give me anything I can't handle, I just wish he

didn't

> trust me so much "

> -Mother

> , Mike, Brenna (VSD, PS- open heart surgery 1/29/98--- typical

3 1/2YO-

> YIPES!), Baby Angel born too early 11/7/00, and Riley and Snoozer

the dogs

>

> Join us again next year in remembering the millions of people

affected by CHD

> on 2/14/2002: " A Day for Hearts: Congenital Heart Defects

Awareness Day! "

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Yes! I can't wait to see what my surgery shows. Olive and the

radiologist that did my HSG both think it's adhesions. My RE thinks

its fibroids/polyps. But, I don't have any of the pain/bleeding

associated with fibroids/polyps. It is true that you don't have to

have taken a pg to term to get AS. This RE is very skilled

surgically, but he is *not* an AS expert, as his comment indicates! I

just have to say that I am very thankful that I found you guys,

because if I hadn't I wouldn't know about Dr. Olive and that means I

would probably have had this RE do my surgery. I am grateful that I

knew all the right questions to ask because of what I had learned

here!

Pat

> Pat,

> I had a D & C at 11 weeks for a bligted ovum that was diagnosed at 9

weeks so

> the BS about not seeing AS with procedures that early is just

that...BS!

> G

>

>

>

>

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I think Dr. Indman might use resectoscope for fibroid removal (that

seems to be the tool of choice for most), but not for AS. On his web

site (http://www.gynalternatives.com/resectos.htm) he talks about it,

but emphasizes that only very well trained surgeons should use this

tool.

I believe Dr. Olive is in the same camp as Indman on this. Olive also

mentioned that heat can damage the lining and is to be avoided and

that he would only use a heat producing tool when absolutely

necessary, like in the rare instance that bleeding did not stop.

Pat

> Pat,

> This is a very interesting difference of opinion between these two

docs. Stick with Dr. Olive. By the way, Dr. Indman doesn't use the

resectoscope. He feels that by waiting for bleeds to stop on their

own they almost always do and he doesn't introduce any energy (heat)

into the uterus. Heat can damage the lining and you have to be extra

careful. He said that the bleeds almost always stop. You may want

to mention this to Dr. Olive.

>

> Who is your RE anyway? Where is he located? I am curious since I

go to Dr. Katz in SF. Good luck on the 13th!

>

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Pat you asked: It is true that you don't have to have taken a pg to

term to get AS

Yes, It is true. I have never been pregnant (that I am aware of). My

Ashermans may have been caused by a possible m/c that may have

happened when I was only 17 that I was unaware of. At the time I got

very heavy periods that lasted for at least three weeks, so this was

only a speculation a few years later while reviewing my history with

my gyn when I was diagnosed with ashermans at 21 after no period for

over 2 years.

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Pat is correct, Indman uses the resectoscope for other uterine surgeries but not Ashermans. For Ashermans he lets it bleed and they usually stop. That is what he said to me anyway. Thanks Pat.

I think Dr. Indman might use resectoscope for fibroid removal (that seems to be the tool of choice for most), but not for AS. On his web site (http://www.gynalternatives.com/resectos.htm) he talks about it, but emphasizes that only very well trained surgeons should use this tool.I believe Dr. Olive is in the same camp as Indman on this. Olive also mentioned that heat can damage the lining and is to be avoided and that he would only use a heat producing tool when absolutely necessary, like in the rare instance that bleeding did not stop. Pat

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