Re: Visualize a daisy..............

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In a message dated 12/17/99 11:31:58 PM Central Standard Time,

awatt04@... writes:

<<

Use of a tree as a Higher Power/God (the Steps from 3 onwards

specifically say God) was actually given to me on the official

addictions division of the American Psychological Association list,

APADiv50-forum, as *proof that AAS was not religious*. I kid you not.

>>

Where can I find APADiv50-forum?

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In a message dated 12/18/99 12:10:25 AM Central Standard Time,

awatt04@... writes:

<<

Remember me to Mrs Crombie...

(This is a very obscure joke abt alcohol research that probably no-one

will get, just my whimsy.)

>>

This rings a bell, could you elaborate?

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At 22:21 17/12/99 -0800, you wrote:

>Of course I still have the nightmares

>where I'm back in college and have forgotten to go to calculus class

>all semester, then get a note from the prof saying: " Where have you

>been all this time? The final's tomorrow. " Every time I have this dream

>I remember all the other times I did the same thing and often wonder if

>my grade-point average isn't abysmally low by now.

That's interesting. I have recurring dreams around the theme of my being in

college again and having missed all the math classes all year, and they

just noticed. There are so many variations of this dream it gets impossible

to sort out though- it is as if I also inhabit an alternative reality where

I am a student of some sort mostly at college, occasionally even back at

school and I have something to feel guilty about. In the school variant of

this dream I'm looking for the classroom my lot are in but I've lost my

timeteable and I don't know which room it is, so I wander around the school

looking in the different rooms. If and when I find them, I sneak in and sit

down and then find its the maths class that I have been avoiding all year!

Aaaarrrggh!

Joe B.

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Sheesh, at least the prof sends you a note. I never find out about the final

until it's over.

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> " pete watts " wrote:

>original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=10513

>> Hey Jim,

>>

>> You're cracking me up. I like to think I'm channelling Winston

>> Churchill. He was a slob who smoked and drank too much and was often

>> prey to his " Black DOg " of depression - but my God, was he a great

>> Statesman and wit.

>>

>> Btw, get your Paxil Rx filled right now. It has an " interesting

>> withdrawal syndrome " as a neurologist put it - I know, been there done

>> that - not at all nice.

>>

>> Best,

>> P.

>>

>> I've calmed down a lot since I got my Paxil refilled. It was getting

>a bit on the unpleasant side after a couple of days. I do like the

>strange dreams it gives me when I quit taking it. One time I dreamed I

>was being haunted by an incredibly sexy but evil female ghost. She was

>dynamite in bed. Then I found out she was one of those evil alternative

>deities mentioned in the Old Testament. Don't remember her name. But I

>asked her if she knew Satan or any other evil gods or goddesses and she

>went into this long, hilarious diatribe about some Akkadian fertility

>goddess she couldn't stand. She made fun of the other goddess for

>having small breasts! Eventually through a collaboration of federal law

>enforcement agents and my dead grandmother, the demonic sex goddess was

>arrested. Her punishment was confinement for eternity in a tiny locked

>box and get this -- the only thing in there with her is a printed copy

>of her 4th Step Inventory, taken by someone else, of course, because

>she's obviously too nasty to do it herself. Maybe I should have made

>her my higher power! She's been in a series of dreams, but I haven't

>seen her since she got locked up. Of course I still have the nightmares

>where I'm back in college and have forgotten to go to calculus class

>all semester, then get a note from the prof saying: " Where have you

>been all this time? The final's tomorrow. " Every time I have this dream

>I remember all the other times I did the same thing and often wonder if

>my grade-point average isn't abysmally low by now.

>

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>

> That's interesting. I have recurring dreams around the theme of my

being in

> college again and having missed all the math classes all year, and

they

> just noticed. There are so many variations of this dream it gets

impossible

> to sort out though- it is as if I also inhabit an alternative reality

where

> I am a student of some sort mostly at college, occasionally even back

at

> school and I have something to feel guilty about. In the school

variant of

> this dream I'm looking for the classroom my lot are in but I've lost

my

> timeteable and I don't know which room it is, so I wander around the

school

> looking in the different rooms. If and when I find them, I sneak in

and sit

> down and then find its the maths class that I have been avoiding all

year!

> Aaaarrrggh!

>

> Joe B.

>

Yes! I have that dream, too. I lose my class schedule. Sometimes I

forget where my locker is or forget the combination for the lock! It's

weird when you have a dream that seems to be a continuation of a

previous dream.

After my wife died, I had a bunch of dreams where she came back to see

me and it turned out she had not died -- she'd run off with another

guy! Not only that, she wasn't very nice to me at all and didn't seem

to understand why I was upset that she'd let me go on believing she was

dead.

One of my wife's hospital girlfriends died a few weeks before Sue did.

Her husband told me he dreamed he got a phone call from her and he

could hear loud party sounds in the background.

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Mrs Crombie was used as a control condition when testing alcohol

therapies; she wore her matron's uniform and told the guy to think abt

his poor mother. She performed as well as intensive therapies quite

often.

Alas. they probably wont let you on APADiv50-forum if not APA; I expect

to get booted off myself pretty soon.

Best,

Pete

eudaimon8413311-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=10544

> In a message dated 12/18/99 12:10:25 AM Central Standard Time,

> awatt04@... writes:

>

> <<

> Remember me to Mrs Crombie...

>

> (This is a very obscure joke abt alcohol research that probably

no-one

> will get, just my whimsy.)

> >>

>

> This rings a bell, could you elaborate?