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<< Hi Matt,

I pulled out a nativity scene that I had left over from my Christian

experiment a few years back. I set it up and replaced some of the people

in it with South Park figures. Kenny replaced the baby Jesus. ,

Stan, and Cartman are standing in for the Three Kings bearing gifts. And

Chef is standing next to ph and , waving his hands claiming the

kid isn't his.

>>

And come Easter when he's crucified... " Aughhhh! they killed Kenny! "

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Matt s wrote:

>

> Hello to everyone on the 12 step free list. Hope everyone's surviving the

> winter. Its cold and rainy here and crazy. Christmas is driving me nutty

> and its not even over yet.

> I wanted to ask people on the list how their handling the religious aspect

> of Christmas.

Hi Matt,

I pulled out a nativity scene that I had left over from my Christian

experiment a few years back. I set it up and replaced some of the people

in it with South Park figures. Kenny replaced the baby Jesus. ,

Stan, and Cartman are standing in for the Three Kings bearing gifts. And

Chef is standing next to ph and , waving his hands claiming the

kid isn't his.

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matt matthews wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=10632

> Hello to everyone on the 12 step free list. Hope everyone's

surviving the

> winter. Its cold and rainy here and crazy. Christmas is driving me

nutty

> and its not even over yet.

> I wanted to ask people on the list how their handling the religious

aspect

> of Christmas.

-----------------------------

Not a problem for me, of course, since Christmas is not a holiday

in my religion and culture. Just an ordinary day for me. In fact I'll

be working on the railroad on Christmas (people do have to travel) for

double time.

> In the past several weeks I've been trying to not AA bash or God

bash, to

> accept everyone. It isnt working? Religion still gets me fired up.

I

> can't help it. I guess its my catholic upbringing and AA experience

or just

> feeling guilty for years about everything I do for fear of going to

hell.

> Once you learn something you can't unlearn it. It scares me I

can't

> return to AA and see it the same. That means I have to find support

on my

> own. I can't just return to these 12 step groups and pretend I'm

satisfied.

>

> But I felt it was a good idea to rejoin this list to get some support

from

> others in what for me, is a daily battle.

> Talk to you all later. Matt

>

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Matt, if you feel the need for a " live " supportive group, why

don't you look into SMART or SOS? One or the other should be available

in your area. Or another alternative is a non-recovery-oriented

counseling or discussion group of some kind.

Take care of yourself,

~Rita

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Your nativity scene is a scream! How creative!

john hollister wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=10635

> Matt s wrote:

> >

> > Hello to everyone on the 12 step free list. Hope everyone's

surviving the

> > winter. Its cold and rainy here and crazy. Christmas is driving

me nutty

> > and its not even over yet.

> > I wanted to ask people on the list how their handling the religious

aspect

> > of Christmas.

>

> Hi Matt,

> I pulled out a nativity scene that I had left over from my Christian

> experiment a few years back. I set it up and replaced some of the

people

> in it with South Park figures. Kenny replaced the baby Jesus. ,

> Stan, and Cartman are standing in for the Three Kings bearing gifts.

And

> Chef is standing next to ph and , waving his hands claiming

the

> kid isn't his.

>

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Rita,

I wish there were SMART meetings and SOS mtgs here. They just don't exist.

The closest are two hours away.

I went to a SMART meeting on the internet the other night and no one showed

up. I ended up trying to suffer through an AA chat.

I've emailed people on the SMART site for info on physical mtg. Never

gotten

a response.

Its funny I do feel ok after AA mtgs but then I hate myself in the morning.

Just like with drinking.

Thanks, Matt

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:55:46 -0800, 12-step-freeegroups wrote:

> matt matthews wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=10632

>

> > Hello to everyone on the 12 step free list. Hope everyone's

> surviving the

> > winter. Its cold and rainy here and crazy. Christmas is driving me

> nutty

> > and its not even over yet.

> > I wanted to ask people on the list how their handling the religious

> aspect

> > of Christmas.

> -----------------------------

>

> Not a problem for me, of course, since Christmas is not a holiday

> in my religion and culture. Just an ordinary day for me. In fact I'll

> be working on the railroad on Christmas (people do have to travel) for

> double time.

>

>

> > In the past several weeks I've been trying to not AA bash or God

> bash, to

> > accept everyone. It isnt working? Religion still gets me fired up.

> I

> > can't help it. I guess its my catholic upbringing and AA experience

> or just

> > feeling guilty for years about everything I do for fear of going to

> hell.

> > Once you learn something you can't unlearn it. It scares me I

> can't

> > return to AA and see it the same. That means I have to find support

> on my

> > own. I can't just return to these 12 step groups and pretend I'm

> satisfied.

> >

> > But I felt it was a good idea to rejoin this list to get some support

> from

> > others in what for me, is a daily battle.

> > Talk to you all later. Matt

> >

> ---------------------

>

> Matt, if you feel the need for a " live " supportive group, why

> don't you look into SMART or SOS? One or the other should be available

> in your area. Or another alternative is a non-recovery-oriented

> counseling or discussion group of some kind.

>

> Take care of yourself,

>

> ~Rita

>

>

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