Re: Has anyone tried Whole adrenal extract or whole thyroid?

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Thanks for your replies. I'm looking to stay away from doctors for

everything including all my medications. I'm disgusted and fedup. I'd

rather die trying to treat myself than let a doctor prescribe another

pill. I'm tried of lane excuses and plain stupidity.

I had switched myself from synthroid to armour thyroid and have

adjusted it myself since 2004. I had been on hydrocortisone at this

time but I wasn't able to get anymore. Two weeks after being off the

hydrocortisone all my symptoms came back. I have been diagnoised with

fibromyalgia, hypothyroid, hypoglycemia, CFIDS, depression, possible

PTSD, Paraproteinaemia, polyneuropathy, 4 cervical ruptured disc, a

degenerative lumbar disc, ACL and meniscus and Left lateral release.

I found out from an online lab that I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis,

(antithyroid peroxidase). The stress, anxiety and fear I have of

going to doctors makes me terribly ill. The horror stories I could

tell.

I've had tests for heavy medals and Lyme disease. An MRI of the brain

to rule out MS showed a small lesion along the posterior aspect of

the parietal lobe which was thought to be a cyst.

I was on 2 grs Armour but I took it down to 1 1/2 grs in January

because I'd been having hot flashes since I had came off the

hydrocortisone in 2005. It wasn't until I completely stopped the

armour for 4 days and started getting severe hypoglycemia that I

started back at 1gr then 1 1/2 gr and no hot flashes.

My labs in Nov 06 TSH .094L range.27-4.20

2grs Armour Free T4 1.00 range.93-1.70

In March 07 TSH 4.56H range.4-4.2

1 1/2 grs Armour Free T4 .968 range.8-1.9

Free T3 2.51 range 1.5-4.1

Intact PTH 14.1H range.7-5.6

Vit D 15L range 20-57

Glomerular filtration rate 70L range >90

90 stage one

60-89 stage two

30-59 stage three

15-29 stage four

<15 or dialysis stage five

Calcium 9.0 range 8.8-10.2

estradiol 31 range <30

testosterone total 32.6 range .05-118

free Androgen Index 2.8 range 1.5-8.5

Progesterone <.2 range <1.0

Acth 15 range 6-58

Aldosterone 4.4 range 4.0-31.0

Cortisol 11.7 3pm range 3-13

CAH 21-Hydroxylase profile

Am Cortisol L 4.7 range 5-25

Androstendione,S 47 range 30-200

17-Hydroxprogesterone <15 range <51

I've had other test but these are most resent. What do you think?

I've noticed when I take a little predisone my swelling goes down and

I don't have to take Lasix. I took the predisone(medrol dose pack)

from my husband. A doctor gave him a shot of predisone for back pain

and I told him he wasn't taking the medrol dose pack too.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Reba,

With all those symptoms I'd highly recommend checking into a GFCF diet.

Linn

>

> Thanks for your replies. I'm looking to stay away from doctors for

> everything including all my medications. I'm disgusted and fedup. I'd

> rather die trying to treat myself than let a doctor prescribe another

> pill. I'm tried of lane excuses and plain stupidity.

> I had switched myself from synthroid to armour thyroid and have

> adjusted it myself since 2004. I had been on hydrocortisone at this

> time but I wasn't able to get anymore. Two weeks after being off the

> hydrocortisone all my symptoms came back. I have been diagnoised with

> fibromyalgia, hypothyroid, hypoglycemia, CFIDS, depression, possible

> PTSD, Paraproteinaemia, polyneuropathy, 4 cervical ruptured disc, a

> degenerative lumbar disc, ACL and meniscus and Left lateral release.

> I found out from an online lab that I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis,

> (antithyroid peroxidase). The stress, anxiety and fear I have of

> going to doctors makes me terribly ill. The horror stories I could

> tell.

> I've had tests for heavy medals and Lyme disease. An MRI of the brain

> to rule out MS showed a small lesion along the posterior aspect of

> the parietal lobe which was thought to be a cyst.

> I was on 2 grs Armour but I took it down to 1 1/2 grs in January

> because I'd been having hot flashes since I had came off the

> hydrocortisone in 2005. It wasn't until I completely stopped the

> armour for 4 days and started getting severe hypoglycemia that I

> started back at 1gr then 1 1/2 gr and no hot flashes.

[Guest guest]

>

> Reba,

>

> With all those symptoms I'd highly recommend checking into a GFCF

diet.

>

> Linn

>

>

> Whats a GFCF diet.

[Guest guest]

,

It's a gluten and casein free diet. You listed fibromyalgia,

hypothyroid, hypoglycemia, CFIDS, depression, possible

PTSD, polyneuropathy, Hashi's and MS all of which can be caused by the

proteins in gluten and casein. The proteins cause the antibodies

which in turn causes the problem or disease. Soybean oil (that's in

about 80% of processed food) can cause some pretty nasty problems

also. For some further info:

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com (Specifically read the chapter called

" The Magic Bean " ) The other chapters are full of great info nutrition

and health wise and also highly recommended.

http://www.dogtorj.net (Lots of info here, just look through)

Lots of info out there, on the web, books etc. Some people have great

luck in just cutting the gluten out, but a lot of people find that

they have even more success especially with arthritis and MS type

symptoms when they cut out the casein.

Do you use Nutrasweet or other artificial sweeteners?

Linn

> >

> > Reba,

> >

> > With all those symptoms I'd highly recommend checking into a GFCF

> diet.

> >

> > Linn

> >

> >

> > Whats a GFCF diet.

>

>

[Guest guest]

And from what I'm hearing...enzymes can actually help overcome gluten

intolerance! There is hope yet!!!

I've ordered some and will letchano how they work! Thanks for pointing me in

that direction Linn!

Be well, W

mwm1glm wrote: ,

It's a gluten and casein free diet. You listed fibromyalgia,

hypothyroid, hypoglycemia, CFIDS, depression, possible

PTSD, polyneuropathy, Hashi's and MS all of which can be caused by the

proteins in gluten and casein. The proteins cause the antibodies

which in turn causes the problem or disease. Soybean oil (that's in

about 80% of processed food) can cause some pretty nasty problems

also.

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[Guest guest]

Linn

Thanks for those articles I have read most of them and it makes good

sense. I'm going to try removing Gluten, Casein, Soy, and Corn from

my diet and see if that helps.

I don't use NutraSweet or other artificial sweeteners. I do drink

tea, coffee and occasionally a Mt Dew.

Do you have a specific diet for this?

> > >

> > > Reba,

> > >

> > > With all those symptoms I'd highly recommend checking into a

GFCF

> > diet.

> > >

> > > Linn

> > >

> > >

> > > Whats a GFCF diet.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

The easiest way to try a GFCF diet IMO is to just eat whole foods. It

makes it a lot easier to avoid the bad stuff. You'll need to watch

things like salad dressings, sauces, mayo, etc. as many of these

products have gluten in them, but it's listed under other names.

Check out the Celiac.com website for info regarding hidden source of

gluten. If you absolutely cannot go without bread, I'd suggest making

your own or using Kinnikinnick brands (http://www.kinnikinnick.com),

they have GFCF items that are also soy free, etc. One of the things

that a lot of people who go on GF diets do is to end up substituting

the same type of SAD foods that they are already eating for GF

versions of these same foods. It's much better to just clean up the

diet period. My daughter and I use the GFCF diet, but the rest of the

family does use raw milk. I really think that most of the negative

info regarding milk and milk products applies to pastuerized milk and

not raw milk. Although it wouldn't be advisable for someone to use

raw milk if they have a compromised immune system. It's easier to cut

out the gluten than it is the casein, because casein is in almost

anything that is processed. There are gluten free sources that let

you do searches based on what you are shopping for which makes it a

little easier. I found it's just easier to make everything myself.

The oils that are used in most products don't cut muster with me, so I

make my own mayo and sauces. For the 4th, I made a barbeque sauce

from a a Deen recipe that was scrumptious. We avoid MSG also.

There are several good yahoo groups that are focused on nutrition that

are GFCF, you can start with this one:

GFCFNN-subscribe

The Weston A. Price Foundation has a lot of good info regarding fats

that might be very helpful for you also. http://westonaprice.org

Elimiating gluten and casein takes some practice. It's almost

impossible to do it perfectly without some infractions. It's a

learning process. I noticed a difference in about 3 days. I couldn't

believe how much better I felt. Within a few weeks, all the aches and

pains that I had were gone, including shoulder pain that I have had

for well over a decade. I'm having testing done this week for Celiac,

I'll be interested to see how that comes out. I know I'm definitely

gluten intolerant. I think I forgot to list that site before, there's

a lot of great info there also. http://www.celiac.com

Linn

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> Linn

>

> Thanks for those articles I have read most of them and it makes good

> sense. I'm going to try removing Gluten, Casein, Soy, and Corn from

> my diet and see if that helps.

> I don't use NutraSweet or other artificial sweeteners. I do drink

> tea, coffee and occasionally a Mt Dew.

> Do you have a specific diet for this?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Linn You know a lot of stuff. I hadn't thought about changing my

diet. I used to eat a lot of veggies but they gave me gas. Maybe

that's why I'm not absorbing vits. I can go with out bread. I used to

do the Atkins diet years ago. Lose the weight and end up going back

to the way I've always eaten.

> >

> > Linn

> >

> > Thanks for those articles I have read most of them and it makes

good

> > sense. I'm going to try removing Gluten, Casein, Soy, and Corn

from

> > my diet and see if that helps.

> > I don't use NutraSweet or other artificial sweeteners. I do drink

> > tea, coffee and occasionally a Mt Dew.

> > Do you have a specific diet for this?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

HypoT and/or gluten intolerance can both cause malabsorption. A lot of people

who go on

Atkins find that they feel a lot better, one of the reasons for that is that

it's basically giving

up gluten without knowing it. Basically just eating good clean proteins,

organic if possible,

lots of veggies and some fruits is a good diet. Even potatoes are good, as long

the portion is

smaller. Some of the potatoes now are big enough to feed 4 people. You can

even use

butter as long as it's clarified (that gets rid of the milk proteins, it's also

called ghee). Beans

are notorious for giving people gas, but that's usually because they're aren't

soaked before

cooking.

Linn

>

> Wow Linn You know a lot of stuff. I hadn't thought about changing my

> diet. I used to eat a lot of veggies but they gave me gas. Maybe

> that's why I'm not absorbing vits. I can go with out bread. I used to

> do the Atkins diet years ago. Lose the weight and end up going back

> to the way I've always eaten.

>