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In a message dated 5/31/02 10:29:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

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Good morning [i am finally up after running a late call --- VERY UNUSUAL FOR

ME],

My personal opinion... SHORT can be maintained inn a professional manner, but

you must take into consideration the geographical challenges you may face

[i.e. - rural area, mountainess terrain, ect.]. Departments that I have

worked for in the past have allowed us to wear shorts with the understanding

--- bunker pants were MANDATORY for scene calls, collisions and fire. In

other words, out of the " house, " you better be in bunker pants. I wish you

luck in doing what is right for your service.

Junior , EMT-Paramedic

on County EMS Medic 33-Blue

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should we wear long sleeve shirts year round?

Mike

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Bad idea. You need as much protection and cover on

your body as you can.

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I think shorts with in reason of length would be perfectly fine. Excuse me

but who made EMT pants bullet proof, tear proof, or anything else proof. Not

to be a smartie or anything, but I have had this argument before. I just

don't see that " pants " versus " shorts " are going to prevent, and yes I am

aware they can help, but they will not prevent injury. Now that I have put

my two cents worth in LOL Have a great day!! and be safe!

Donna EMT-P

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In the past I have had some members wear shorts under their bunker gear at a

fire and they were the ones that always got burnt, and of course it was on

the legs below the shorts. Since we have had that experience with the shorts

no one is suppose to be wearing shorts on any incident. I know on occasion

that it happens but they all know what could happen if they are caught.

Generally around the station shorts are permitted but they are suppose to

have a jumpsuit or pants to put on before responding.

Luckily the personnel that got burned in the past only received minor 1st

degree burns but you never know. Personally I like the idea of shorts in the

summer but being a department that provides both fire and EMS services it

just is not going to happen.

Lowe

Assistant Fire Chief

Rosehill Fire Department

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Just curious - how many fireman on the list where pants under bunker pants

AT

NITE [fire response or medical]. I recall always being in shorts, and

approx.

75% of fires were after 8pm.

J-B

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Our department had a SOG about this - no shorts under bunker gear. It

was for their protection against " defective protective colthing " injury

lawsuits. There's a suit realtive to that going on in FDNY right now

over an incident years ago where a FF was allowed to wear protective

clothing that didn't really protect him, and he's claiming it's an OSHA

violation. So far, courts have ruled he can sue based on " violations of

generally accepted and well published standards. "

Mike :)

PS - I wear gloves on every call. I get strange looks sometimes, but I

wear gloves on every call.

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> Just curious - how many fireman on the list where pants under

> bunker pants AT NITE [fire response or medical]. I recall

> always being in shorts, and approx. 75% of fires were after 8pm.

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> J-B

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At my station only the Sr. Captain wears pants under

bunkers at night (his choice). The other 4 of us wear

department issued shorts.

E. Tate, LP

Tyler, Texas

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> Just curious - how many fireman on the list where

> pants under bunker pants AT

> NITE [fire response or medical]. I recall always

> being in shorts, and approx.

> 75% of fires were after 8pm.

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> J-B

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Thank You

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Subject: Re: Uniform Shorts

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:23:03 EDT

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If you have the time, you can contact Phoenix Fire Department. I know they

where shorts and tee-shirts when temperature is above 92-degrees.

J-B

PS - In the way of BBPs, intact skin secures one's self best.

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