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In my opinion, you handle it by reminding yourself that the quavery, tear-filled

voice and the angry voice are just manipulative tools and are mostly an act.

She is trying to play you like a violin; don't respond to it. Its hard because

unlike your nada, you *do* have empathy and want to comfort someone who is in

distress. But (again, in my opinion) the tears are not coming from nada's

heart, they are coming from the part of nada that wants to control you and bend

you to her will.

Just keep reminding yourself of that.

I discovered that this is the case with my nada, at any rate. She called me a

few months ago all weepy and sniffly and I was pleasant but neutral *but* I did

not respond to her whiny voice. (I didn't ask her what was wrong, or why she was

crying.) She stopped being whiny when it didn't work. Just like that, she

turned it off. I was (silently) amazed, and continued to talk with her in a

calm, neutral but polite tone, she conveyed her info to me and we concluded the

call.

PDs use manipulation as a way of life, and we've been conditioned from birth to

respond to these manipulations. When we were kids, my nada used anger and our

terror of physical abuse to control my Sister and me, we were genuinely afraid

of her, but now she's mostly switched over to weepy guilt to get her way. Its

gradually dawning on my nada that neither Sister nor I respond to being

manipulated any longer, and she's having a hard time learning how to be just

honest and straightforward and say with words directly what she thinks and feels

instead of screaming in anger or crying with self-pity.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

-Annie

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> How do you handle it when you get the over emotional voicemail? Nada just

called and I could just hear it in her voice that I'm not doing whatever it is

that she thinks I should be doing. She has cycled into her angry/sobbing lash

out temper tantrums. I still haven't gotten enough strength in myself to not

feel guilty for not answering or calling her back even though I know if I do she

will only make me feel badly about myself.

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Also remember this: You are worth true LOVE.

You are allowing yourself to get beat up and abused if you cave into guilt trip.

Don't let it be you.

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Don't call her back. It's part of the manipulation - anger because you don't

pick up the phone and call her back, then it switches to nada-victim, crying,

sobbing that you don't love her...

Not calling back is easier said than done. I've been there. I don't answer the

phone everytime she calls. When it was really bad, she left 6 or 7 messages on

evening, each one getting more and more hysterical. There have been times when

hubby has listened and deleted the voicemail. It was the only way I could keep

going and not be pulled back in. Do you have someone who can listen and delete

it for you? Or, is there a way you can delete it without listening?

Abby

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> How do you handle it when you get the over emotional voicemail? Nada just

called and I could just hear it in her voice that I'm not doing whatever it is

that she thinks I should be doing. She has cycled into her angry/sobbing lash

out temper tantrums. I still haven't gotten enough strength in myself to not

feel guilty for not answering or calling her back even though I know if I do she

will only make me feel badly about myself.

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