Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 I prefer the 2 Paramedic truck. First of all, I'm not perfect, it is always best to have a second set of Paramedic eyes looking at something too. Sometimes my partner gets a different take on the call or situation and saves my butt or vice-versa. Second, it is in the best interest of the customer. Often times the situation is different then what the dispatcher was given or gives you, often there are more then 1 patient. This allows us to provided the same level of care to each patient. That actually goes for all patients. In the 2 paramedic truck system all patients regardless of complaint have the benefit of having a Paramedic assess and tx them. None of this punting the call to the basic. Obviously this is a cost issue from the side of the employer, however you must decide what is most important, taking care of your patients and the comfort level of your staff or the bottom line... take care, Partners! > For the folks that have worked with Paramedic and non-Parramedic partners, do > you prefer working 2-paramedic truck or do you prefer working 1-paramedic > truck? why? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 CenTex, I have worked on both sides of this one and prefer a double Paramedic truck, but who wouldn't? In my opinion, this set up provides the best patient care. It allows a second medic to double check your thoughts and actions, just in case. I've had calls where my partner has caught something I didn't, and vice versa. Also, on a really busy unit, it allows for equal distribution of calls and the associated paperwork, etc. If a service is a true MICU, then the Paramedic on a Paramedic - EMT/EMT-I truck must ride every call. I've been there and it was a busy unit. It was not fun. There were a lot of patients my partner could have easily taken, but due to the MICU status, wasn't allowed to. A double medic truck is a little more expensive from the employers point of view, but in the long run they may be cheaper. I remember in the MICU service, the only people that called in sick were medics. This created overtime at paramedic pay and there were seldom, if ever, any overtime at the EMT level. I think double medic trucks would help to decrease burn out also, but don't have any scientific data to back it up. Does scientific data exist in EMS? :-) Double medic trucks are the way to go! E. Tate, LP Tyler, Texas --- CenTexMedic1970@... wrote: > For the folks that have worked with Paramedic and > non-Parramedic partners, do > you prefer working 2-paramedic truck or do you > prefer working 1-paramedic > truck? why? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== " The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great - and for destroying those who destroy the earth. " Revelation 11:18 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 I agree as I work for a system that only utilizes 2 paramedic trucks. At 2:00am it is always better to have another ALS minded person to compare ideas with. It also takes the strain off of a paramedic if he/she isn't responsible for EVERY singe transport. Just my opinion.... Donnie Stone Partners! > For the folks that have worked with Paramedic and non-Parramedic partners, do > you prefer working 2-paramedic truck or do you prefer working 1-paramedic > truck? why? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 newest medicare/medicaid schedules don't like 2 P trucks. Pays by actual tx level and not manning level. How cost effective is a 2 P truck by the new schedule? > >Reply-To: >To: < > >Subject: Re: Partners! >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:39:57 -0500 > >I prefer the 2 Paramedic truck. > >First of all, I'm not perfect, it is always best to have a second set of >Paramedic eyes looking at something too. Sometimes my partner gets a >different take on the call or situation and saves my butt or vice-versa. > >Second, it is in the best interest of the customer. Often times the >situation is different then what the dispatcher was given or gives you, >often there are more then 1 patient. This allows us to provided the same >level of care to each patient. That actually goes for all patients. In the >2 >paramedic truck system all patients regardless of complaint have the >benefit >of having a Paramedic assess and tx them. None of this punting the call to >the basic. > >Obviously this is a cost issue from the side of the employer, however you >must decide what is most important, taking care of your patients and the >comfort level of your staff or the bottom line... > >take care, > > > Partners! > > > > For the folks that have worked with Paramedic and non-Parramedic >partners, >do > > you prefer working 2-paramedic truck or do you prefer working >1-paramedic > > truck? why? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 newest medicare/medicaid schedules don't like 2 P trucks. Pays by actual tx level and not manning level. How cost effective is a 2 P truck by the new schedule? > >Reply-To: >To: < > >Subject: Re: Partners! >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:39:57 -0500 > >I prefer the 2 Paramedic truck. > >First of all, I'm not perfect, it is always best to have a second set of >Paramedic eyes looking at something too. Sometimes my partner gets a >different take on the call or situation and saves my butt or vice-versa. > >Second, it is in the best interest of the customer. Often times the >situation is different then what the dispatcher was given or gives you, >often there are more then 1 patient. This allows us to provided the same >level of care to each patient. That actually goes for all patients. In the >2 >paramedic truck system all patients regardless of complaint have the >benefit >of having a Paramedic assess and tx them. None of this punting the call to >the basic. > >Obviously this is a cost issue from the side of the employer, however you >must decide what is most important, taking care of your patients and the >comfort level of your staff or the bottom line... > >take care, > > > Partners! > > > > For the folks that have worked with Paramedic and non-Parramedic >partners, >do > > you prefer working 2-paramedic truck or do you prefer working >1-paramedic > > truck? why? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 Interesting, I can say that I never thought $$$ would be issue about what someones preference was. If that was misunderstanding on my part... I am sorry! J-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 Our system is a 2 paramedic system. It is great to know that when you run 18 calls a day, only 9 will be yours. However, the input from an equal partner always made me feel the stress level at its lowest. Not to mention the obvious, better for the patient. Just my thoughts Andy Foote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 I was fortunate enough to work with a Paramedic partner for several years. At that point in time, management felt that having a staff of all Paramedics would be beneficial. It worked out great, for all of the previously mentioned reasons such as equality in the number of calls and related paperwork. My partner and I also developed a great working relationship and communicated oftentimes, in an unspoken language, as we knew one another so well, that we really clicked on those bad calls. In my opinion, this was the greatest arrangement that benefited not only our patients, but us as well. I feel that we were able to deliver outstanding care to our patients and had a great time doing it. As Medicare cuts and other financial difficulties came to rear their ugly heads, management was forced to split my partner and I and instead pair us with basics and intermediates. This works out ok, but it certainly adds to the Paramedic's stress level. When I have the opportunity to work with a seasoned basic or intermediate, it is not too bad. Working with brand new basics and intermediates is much more difficult. I love to work with folks who are new to the field, but when you get out on a call with a really sick patient who requires a lot of interventions, it is pretty tough, especially if you are the only one who can start IVs, intubate, deliver meds and etc. Especially when your partner has no clue as to what meds the patient may need and etc. I do believe that patient care is at its best when there are two Paramedics on the truck, but I also understand that Paramedics are more expensive, as they generally make more per hour than do basics and intermediates. In a perfect world, with money being no object I think that two Paramedics on each truck definitley works well for lots of reasons. Neel, EMT-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 I work both ways and have no preference depends on schedule and personal availability. if you view your self as a professional your patient will see you as such no matter what uniform your service uses. to me shorts are out as I am an old fire service person. if some one gives you a funny look because you wear gloves, just remember the old funeral home employees did wear gloves while they ate there doughnuts and embalmed some one. wear your gloves the are good to write on. come on folks common sense should prevail, shorts no paper is cooperate decision that allow you to stay in business as most hospitals have stopped change out for any thing. yours wetseal Partners! > For the folks that have worked with Paramedic and non-Parramedic partners, do > you prefer working 2-paramedic truck or do you prefer working 1-paramedic > truck? why? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 Paramedic or EMT. So long as I have a partner I don't care. Lets just get to work. Good EMT's know when to say Hey partner... Look here. Tom LeNeveu Sometimes with a medic -- Sometimes Not Paramedic/FireFighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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