Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Ron, There is a certain positive notion about just paying more, but there is also a great deal of incentive for the " one-time lump payment " and people seem to like that, especially the generation we are currently starting to employ. They like getting their bi-weekly pay checks and then, that " bonus " check for $2000 or whatever. This RAS in California's amounts did seem rather large when compared to Texas, but cost of living,etc. The other BIG " anti-bonus " that can kick up in your face when you implement something like this is that any type of " bonus " or " incentive " is usually taxed at 28% or higher....thereby giving morale you hoped to create by giving the bonus a severe kick between the legs.....that may be the reason for larger payments so that the " take-home " portion is more palatable. I also like the scheduling alternatives. A really unique approach came from an ambulance company in Staffordshire England. They have so many " unit hours " they have to fill each week. For example, if you have 10 units that are available 24/7, you have to fill 1,680 unit hours (10 units X 168 hours in a week) each week with a unit hour equaling 1 ambulance available for 1 hour fully staffed and stocked. Staffordshire then broke this time up into blocks (say 5 blocks of 336 unit hours) and then the 5 supervisors were responsible for filling these 336 unit hours with their employees in whatever fashion they could. It could be with 8's, 4's, 2's, 12's....whatever, as long as that block of time (336 hours ) was filled. So, your block of time may have been from 1700 to 0500 with 4 units 7 days a week and you have 16 employees to accomplish this with......your only goals are to fill the time and do it at the lowest cost. This allowed for extreme flexibility and great employee satisfaction. They could manipulate their schedule based upon their needs with absolutely no consequences to the other people or groups.... We toyed with something like this in a previous job of mine...the only rub was that England doesn't have FLSA so they don't have the OT issues we have here. They had more flexibility, but this approach is much much like what you were talking about and different alternatives are going to have to be used to accomplish our goals. Traditionally EMS has been very cooperative in sharing our techniques and plans...but soon we are going to be competing against each other for these limited resources and other things besides money are going to have to be used to differentiate our service from other services, etc. It could start becoming really interesting. Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Ron, (daddy), When do I move in? Gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 At this point, I would settle for retirement and a 22 foot bay boat, a curado reel, all star rod and some good weather. Henry Happy New Year to all you EMS crusties wrote: > Henry, > It's at a point in Rural EMS that you and I will have to offer new > employees a Lexus, 25,000 sq home, 60' boat, maid, butler, and have to > be > there mother and father too. > Ron > Re: Good Recruiting > > > We have a tuition reimbursement program where we pay their tuition not > > only for paramedic school but additional college education as well. > This > we do in return for 1 year of employment after the completion of each > semester. Additionally, we pay for all uniforms, bunker gear ect. > > At this time we have only one applicant. > > Henry Barber > > THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > > The home loan part seems kinda new for EMS, although other corporate > > > ventures > > have been doing it for years. The relocation money, sign-on bonuses, > > > and > > scholarship money happens all the time. I am sending 6 of our > EMT-I's > > to > > school in exchange for 2 years of service afterwards.....and > pro-rated > > > > paybacks if they don't make two years. > > > > It can be done anywhere if you can justify the cost vs. benefits to > > whoever > > you have to be accountable to (i.e. city council, county commission, > > > stockholders, etc). > > > > As our staffing problems start to become even more acute than they > are > > > > today...the idea will not be " can we do it " it will become more and > > more " Can > > we afford NOT to do it.... " . > > > > Happy New Year everybody!!!!!!! > > > > Dudley Wait > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 That's not true... there are a lot of us who would consider a move to rural EMS if a few things were different. Most of us haven't been making enough money to just up and move and buy a house, as there aren't too many rental properties in a rural setting... And most rural services can't provide the money needed to live decently, let alone comfortably. And most rural providers aren't busy enough to keep most medics satisfied (not 24 in 24, but 1 a day is SLOW)... If you could overcome the pay issue, and find a way to keep medics busy (maybe p/t w local doctors and NP's?), there might be more - right now, it's just not an " opportunity " to be anything more than a medic who never gets to practice paramedicine as often as he/she would like, as it seems to be presented. Mike Re: Good Recruiting > > > We have a tuition reimbursement program where we pay their tuition not > only for paramedic school but additional college education as well. This > we do in return for 1 year of employment after the completion of each > semester. Additionally, we pay for all uniforms, bunker gear ect. > > At this time we have only one applicant. > > Henry Barber > > THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > > The home loan part seems kinda new for EMS, although other corporate > > ventures > > have been doing it for years. The relocation money, sign-on bonuses, > > and > > scholarship money happens all the time. I am sending 6 of our EMT-I's > > to > > school in exchange for 2 years of service afterwards.....and pro-rated > > > > paybacks if they don't make two years. > > > > It can be done anywhere if you can justify the cost vs. benefits to > > whoever > > you have to be accountable to (i.e. city council, county commission, > > stockholders, etc). > > > > As our staffing problems start to become even more acute than they are > > > > today...the idea will not be " can we do it " it will become more and > > more " Can > > we afford NOT to do it.... " . > > > > Happy New Year everybody!!!!!!! > > > > Dudley Wait > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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