Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Holly, Emma's shoes are also at the 70 degree angle. When she first started walking (Dec 25) her feet were out too, one more than the other but now they are pretty straight. It seems that once the muscles strengthen from standing and walking everything settles into place. I grew so comfortable with Emma's overcorrection that now that her feet are in their normal position, I'm always paranoid that I'm seeing the beginnings of a relapse. is much more cool-headed than me about this. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Holly, Thanks for the good wishes for .. I've found that, too.. lots of people say they wore the shoes, but I haven't yet found one who actually had clubfoot. I had metatarsus adductus. It was so prominent that when Dr. P saw a picture of me as a baby he asked if I had clubfoot. That foot is a half size smaller than the other, although that might be just coincidence. It's interesting to know the two conditions seem to have some sort of genetic connection. Sorry I can't help with the question about shoe angle... I've wondered about it though, such as why the normal foot of unilateral kids is placed at a 45 degree angle in the brace. Guess that's considered " neutral " . A. > I was wondering if all of the children on this group who have > bilateral clubfeet have the 70 degree angle on each of the shoes on > the brace? I am wondering because it seems that the foot that has > always been 's " best " seems to turn outward a lot more than we > have ever noticed now that she is up on her feet so much. When she > stands it is like once described, " charlie chaplin like " and > when she crawls she drags it behind her off to the side. The other > one that was never quite as good seems fine, it goes outward also > when she stands but not near as much and when she crawls it is > straighter in a more normal possition. Has doctor Ponseti ever > changed the degree on the shoes for anyone for any reason? I know for > unilateral babies it is different for the one normal foot but I > have'nt read anything before about a difference in degree's for a > bilateral baby. Also, to , I was wondering, did you ever discuss > anything like this with Dr. Ponseti before discarding 's brace? > Did he ever suggest changing the degree of her shoe instead of > eliminating it completely? I'm very interested in any information > anyone might have on this before our next visit with Dr. Ponseti. > Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Holly, Yes, he reduced the angle of her shoe (she's unilateral) on the clubfoot when he diagnosed her with the lax joints. However, he only reduced it by about 10 degrees. I know that once they start walking for a few months, the foot will naturally straighten out. 's foot has straightened out quite nicely. It looks identical to her other foot. She no longer drags it, which also comes with the practice of walking I'm sure. Regards, > I was wondering if all of the children on this group who have > bilateral clubfeet have the 70 degree angle on each of the shoes on > the brace? I am wondering because it seems that the foot that has > always been 's " best " seems to turn outward a lot more than we > have ever noticed now that she is up on her feet so much. When she > stands it is like once described, " charlie chaplin like " and > when she crawls she drags it behind her off to the side. The other > one that was never quite as good seems fine, it goes outward also > when she stands but not near as much and when she crawls it is > straighter in a more normal possition. Has doctor Ponseti ever > changed the degree on the shoes for anyone for any reason? I know for > unilateral babies it is different for the one normal foot but I > have'nt read anything before about a difference in degree's for a > bilateral baby. Also, to , I was wondering, did you ever discuss > anything like this with Dr. Ponseti before discarding 's brace? > Did he ever suggest changing the degree of her shoe instead of > eliminating it completely? I'm very interested in any information > anyone might have on this before our next visit with Dr. Ponseti. > Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Yes Zowie has the 70 degree angle for her shoes too. I do notice one of her feet look over corrected though. I am going to ask Dr Geitz about that on the 4th when we go in for our re check and x rays. Interesting isn't it? Shanna Shoe angle question >I was wondering if all of the children on this group who have >bilateral clubfeet have the 70 degree angle on each of the shoes on >the brace? I am wondering because it seems that the foot that has >always been 's " best " seems to turn outward a lot more than we >have ever noticed now that she is up on her feet so much. When she >stands it is like once described, " charlie chaplin like " and >when she crawls she drags it behind her off to the side. The other >one that was never quite as good seems fine, it goes outward also >when she stands but not near as much and when she crawls it is >straighter in a more normal possition. Has doctor Ponseti ever >changed the degree on the shoes for anyone for any reason? I know for >unilateral babies it is different for the one normal foot but I >have'nt read anything before about a difference in degree's for a >bilateral baby. Also, to , I was wondering, did you ever discuss >anything like this with Dr. Ponseti before discarding 's brace? >Did he ever suggest changing the degree of her shoe instead of >eliminating it completely? I'm very interested in any information >anyone might have on this before our next visit with Dr. Ponseti. >Thanks, Holly > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Yep Zowie does. Although I think I answered this one but I wasn't sure just thought I would again since it came across. LOL But yeah one of Zowie's feet are that way too I think it is over corrected I am going to ask her Dr ont he 4th of April when we go in. I think he will also be doing x rays too.I am getting mighty excited to see how it has become. Whoooa that is in about 20 more days wow how time flies huh Shanna Shoe angle question I was wondering if all of the children on this group who have bilateral clubfeet have the 70 degree angle on each of the shoes on the brace? I am wondering because it seems that the foot that has always been 's " best " seems to turn outward a lot more than we have ever noticed now that she is up on her feet so much. When she stands it is like once described, " charlie chaplin like " and when she crawls she drags it behind her off to the side. The other one that was never quite as good seems fine, it goes outward also when she stands but not near as much and when she crawls it is straighter in a more normal possition. Has doctor Ponseti ever changed the degree on the shoes for anyone for any reason? I know for unilateral babies it is different for the one normal foot but I have'nt read anything before about a difference in degree's for a bilateral baby. Also, to , I was wondering, did you ever discuss anything like this with Dr. Ponseti before discarding 's brace? Did he ever suggest changing the degree of her shoe instead of eliminating it completely? I'm very interested in any information anyone might have on this before our next visit with Dr. Ponseti. Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Dan, You're right, it does make sense that once 's feet start to strengthen up a bit that her feet will probably straighten up also. She is'nt walking yet at 12 months but is pulling up all over the place now and loving it! She is'nt steady on her feet yet either, so she probably just needs some time to practice and gain some strength in her feet and ankles especially. I'm sure Dr. Ponseti will want to see her walk with us holding her hands and let us know how her gate (sp?) is doing in his opinion. Thanks for the encouraging advice, it's always reassuring to hear how some of the kids farthur along are doing. I tend to stare at 's feet a lot too and wonder sometimes if I am seeing some kind of negative signs..........I must drive Dave crazy with my, " So, what do you think? " questions all the time. Then when her feet become straighter, I'll worry about that too I'm sure. Thanks again, Holly RE: Shoe angle question >Holly, > >Emma's shoes are also at the 70 degree angle. When she first started walking >(Dec 25) her feet were out too, one more than the other but now they are >pretty straight. It seems that once the muscles strengthen from standing and >walking everything settles into place. I grew so comfortable with Emma's >overcorrection that now that her feet are in their normal position, I'm >always paranoid that I'm seeing the beginnings of a relapse. is much >more cool-headed than me about this. > >Dan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 What Dan mentioned makes a lot of sense to me, but you're right, it never hurts to ask since each of these kiddo's seems to have their own individual situations. I'm sure I will mention it to Dr. P on our next visit but I'm sure he'll probably tell me that it's the " norm " . Hopefully! Holly Shoe angle question > > >I was wondering if all of the children on this group who have >bilateral clubfeet have the 70 degree angle on each of the shoes on >the brace? I am wondering because it seems that the foot that has >always been 's " best " seems to turn outward a lot more than we >have ever noticed now that she is up on her feet so much. When she >stands it is like once described, " charlie chaplin like " and >when she crawls she drags it behind her off to the side. The other >one that was never quite as good seems fine, it goes outward also >when she stands but not near as much and when she crawls it is >straighter in a more normal possition. Has doctor Ponseti ever >changed the degree on the shoes for anyone for any reason? I know for >unilateral babies it is different for the one normal foot but I >have'nt read anything before about a difference in degree's for a >bilateral baby. Also, to , I was wondering, did you ever discuss >anything like this with Dr. Ponseti before discarding 's brace? >Did he ever suggest changing the degree of her shoe instead of >eliminating it completely? I'm very interested in any information >anyone might have on this before our next visit with Dr. Ponseti. >Thanks, Holly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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