Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Biofeedback is completely non medicinal isn't it? I did it once many years ago and it was simply a " thought process " treatment which tried to redirect my attention to something other than the pain. What does the treating practictioner say about your not improving? If it wasn't improving at least a bit after 3 months or so - I'd probably stop and investigate a different avenue. I know that nothing works quickly in these things, and it isn't wise to quit too soon, but after about 3 months there should be some change that you notice. Biofeedfack Hi Everyone! I have been on biofeed back for a couple of months, and it seems to be making it worse. Now I just dont know what to do. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Nikki Please discuss all methods of treatment with your practitioner. NONE of this is to be taken as medical advice but merely opinions offered! *****END OF MESSAGE***** ------------------------------------------------- Yahoo members can click on: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders On the left side is a listing including Links and Files . If you click on those you will find much additional information posted by our members. To post message: VulvarDisorders To Subscribe: VulvarDisorders-subscribe Unsubscribe: VulvarDisorders-unsubscribe List owner: VulvarDisorders-owner ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 > Biofeedback is completely non medicinal isn't it? I did it once many > years ago and it was simply a " thought process " treatment which tried to > redirect my attention to something other than the pain. > The biofeedback for pelvic floor is that they usually insert a probe into the vagina (sometimes the anus as well). You then sqeeze or do something they ask you to do and it feeds back information on how tense, lax, weak etc your muscles are. Then you do exercises and try to get into a certain range. I have a home test one called Myself. http://www.dependonmyself.com/ It is sold for incontinence (a sign of weak pelvic floor) but it is very similar to those used at the physical therapists office from what I understand. Some of those are electronic problems. This one measures the amount of pressure you exert. I myself, can squeeze hard but I lose the tension after a second...need to use the machine more often (when school starts with the kids gone). Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Hi Nikki, I'm doing biofeedback with Dr. Glazer, and he says that symptoms often get worse before they get better. The pelvic floor muscle can get more unstable initially as it gets stronger and this causes more pain. Stick with it. The average length of treatment is 9 months. Good luck, > Hi Everyone! > I have been on biofeed back for a couple of months, and it seems to > be making it worse. Now I just dont know what to do. Anyone have any > suggestions? > Thanks > Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 > Hi Everyone! > I have been on biofeed back for a couple of months, and it seems to > be making it worse. Now I just dont know what to do. Anyone have any > suggestions? > Thanks > Nikki Nikki, my PT thinks biofeedback makes vulvodynia worse. I forget her exact reasoning, something about why shorten a muscle that's already showing a tendency to spasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Nikke, Trudy: I have to agree. For some people, the increased tone of the pelvic floor muscles is the main cause and the biofeedback that encourages even more tone will make matters worse. For some others, the contract relax method is helpful. Biofeedback can be used to calm the muscles by setting a baseline sensitivity and then by relaxing your mind, jaw, face, neck shoulders, etc etc etc, you begin to see / hear the beeps indicate that you are relaxing the muscles of the pelvic floor. It just depends on if your therapist is asking you to tighten or to relax. TKOPT www.tomocklerpt.com trudyjhagain wrote: > > > Hi Everyone! > > I have been on biofeed back for a couple of months, and it seems to > > be making it worse. Now I just dont know what to do. Anyone have > any > > suggestions? > > Thanks > > Nikki > > Nikki, my PT thinks biofeedback makes vulvodynia worse. I forget her > exact reasoning, something about why shorten a muscle that's already > showing a tendency to spasm. > > > Please discuss all methods of treatment with your practitioner. NONE of this is to be taken as medical advice but merely opinions offered! > > > *****END OF MESSAGE***** > ------------------------------------------------- > Yahoo members can click on: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders > > On the left side is a listing including Links and > Files . If you click on those you will find much additional > information posted by our members. > > To post message: VulvarDisorders > To Subscribe: VulvarDisorders-subscribe > Unsubscribe: VulvarDisorders-unsubscribe > List owner: VulvarDisorders-owner > > ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 I find that confusing, because the point of biofeedback it to teach an over tight - overly short - muscle to relax and lengthen. It may be that if you do not do complimentary things with it, such as stretches and internal massage, you'll simply get a tighter and tighter muscle. It is other things that just the biofeedback training that's going to stop the muscle from going into spasm... Are you doing those other things, or JUST working with the probe? > > Hi Everyone! > > I have been on biofeed back for a couple of months, and it seems to > > be making it worse. Now I just dont know what to do. Anyone have > any > > suggestions? > > Thanks > > Nikki > > Nikki, my PT thinks biofeedback makes vulvodynia worse. I forget her > exact reasoning, something about why shorten a muscle that's already > showing a tendency to spasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 > I find that confusing, because the point of biofeedback it to teach > an over tight - overly short - muscle to relax and lengthen. It may > be that if you do not do complimentary things with it, such as > stretches and internal massage, you'll simply get a tighter and > tighter muscle. It is other things that just the biofeedback > training that's going to stop the muscle from going into spasm... > Are you doing those other things, or JUST working with the probe? > > The stretches I don't know about. If you have some exercises that help, I'd appreciate your posting a description of them. I am having physical therapy, but don't know about anything I can do myself. I have never worked with the probe at all, following my pt's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Biofeedback is not jsut to get things to start working..sometimes it is used to get things to calm down too. TKOPT www.tomocklerpt.com tarnalberry wrote: > I find that confusing, because the point of biofeedback it to teach > an over tight - overly short - muscle to relax and lengthen. It may > be that if you do not do complimentary things with it, such as > stretches and internal massage, you'll simply get a tighter and > tighter muscle. It is other things that just the biofeedback > training that's going to stop the muscle from going into spasm... > Are you doing those other things, or JUST working with the probe? > > > > > > > Hi Everyone! > > > I have been on biofeed back for a couple of months, and it seems > to > > > be making it worse. Now I just dont know what to do. Anyone have > > any > > > suggestions? > > > Thanks > > > Nikki > > > > Nikki, my PT thinks biofeedback makes vulvodynia worse. I forget > her > > exact reasoning, something about why shorten a muscle that's > already > > showing a tendency to spasm. > > > Please discuss all methods of treatment with your practitioner. NONE of this is to be taken as medical advice but merely opinions offered! > > > *****END OF MESSAGE***** > ------------------------------------------------- > Yahoo members can click on: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders > > On the left side is a listing including Links and > Files . If you click on those you will find much additional > information posted by our members. > > To post message: VulvarDisorders > To Subscribe: VulvarDisorders-subscribe > Unsubscribe: VulvarDisorders-unsubscribe > List owner: VulvarDisorders-owner > > ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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