RE: Alternative Therapies to treating Diabetes

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The name of the herb line is called Amazon Herbs. I came accross this line when

I went to a Meditation conference and one of the people there was a Reiki Master

who presented this and other products. Ever since my mother told me she had

Diabetes, my heart went into a panic and since then I have been looking for

Alternative treatments.

I ordered their tea which is called the Shipibo treasure tea. It contains

chanca piedra, jatoba, una de gato, chuchuhuasi, stevia, tahari (pau d' arco)

and yerba mate. I was wonderful tea, good for digestive health, anti-viral

prperties, energy and an all over body tonic. All of these herbs are taken from

the Amazon Rainforest where the soil is rich and untampered with.

It was fine for me to take to maintain good health, but I wanted to know what it

could do for my mother. So I went to a recent conference they had in sdale

Arizona about 2 weeks ago and was genuinly taken aback by their presentation.

These were some of their medical presenters:

Dr. Eldredge a chiropractic physician with over 22 years of experience in

the healing arts

Dr. A. Fleisher, M.D. etc. ( I say etc because he had a whole bunch of

other letters behind his name) but he speicalizes in classical homeopathy,

nutritional and botanical medicine, chelation therapy and general family

medicine.

Vida Dubinsky a nutritionist of over 25 years

Christian Drapeau MS.c holds a masters degree in Neurophysiology and has spent

the past 7 years studying the medicianal properties of blue-green algae. He has

written a book " how amazon herbs work in the body " . This is an excellent source

of information.

Jim Hawver N.M.D (Natropathic Medical Doctor) has practiced Natropathic Medicine

for over 14 years

Kosey Ely a practitioner of Bhakti-yoga for more than 25 years

Dr. Hanover, D.V. M ( has been a practicing veteranarian since 1991)

**Yes, they have concluded that what works for us also works for animals

Dr. Hegstrand Board-certified pathologist and preventative health care

specialist. Medical Director of Integrative Healthcare athe the Blue Heron

Academy in Grand Rapids, MI. She has authored many publications.

This is only a brief list of the medical professionals who spoke of the effects

of their herbs in their clinical practices. Some of the Allopathic Doctors say

it took a while for them to open themselves to te possibility until they say the

clinical evidence and until they gave them to their patients and say drastic

results. This is the same for the animal practitioners as well.

It was just an amazing conference, so when I got back I told my mother about it

and we have decided to try it. Using the health pack designed to work on the 9

sytems of the body and using digestazon plus and also metabazon for the breaking

down of complex sugars and the digestazon for optimal digestive health.

We really don't seem to realize how much damage we do to our system when our

food isn't properly digested.

Metabazon contains (Pedra hume caa pata de vaca, sarsaparilla, stevia, cashew

plant, artichoke leaf)

Digestazon plus contains ( enzymes from natural plant substances : Proteases,

protease 4.5, Bromelain, peptidase. Amylases, amylase, glucoamylase, invertase,

malt diastase. Lipase. CereCalase, phytase, hemicellulase, beta-gluconase.

Also contains the following herbs: Boldo, star Anise, pepermint, carqueja and

orange bitters.

You can contact Noella Blake @ or email Noella_blake@...

and she can talk more with you about it. I am just learning about this myself

and my mother and I are just in our beginning stages of trying this out.

However, she may be able to explain it better. I have a bunch of literature

that I am reading now.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sedra,

The nine systems of the body are: The skeletal system, the Digestive system,

the Muscular system, the Lymphatic system, the Endocrine system, the Nervous

system, the Cardio-vascular system, the Male/Female Reproductive system and the

Urinary system.

I came to believe what I believe about God because I am deeply spiritual and I

do a lot of meditation. I also believe in some eastern medicine and practices.

In Genesis we were prescribed only herbs to eat and we were told what herbs to

eat. After the fall of man and the flood of Noah we were told basically to eat

what we want. However, the original instructions was to let the herbs be as

" meat " for us. So I believe many of the solutions lie in the consumption of

" wild foods " . The Shipibo Indians in the Amazon Rainforest don't suffer from

the these type of degenerative conditons. These consume these herbs as food.

Their main problem is keeping their land and developing substantiating

themselves economically. Not to mention in the Amazon Rainforest they are at

the bottom of the food chain!

I firmly believe if we feed the body the right foods, it will heal itself!

My mother's blood sugar is already lowered, however we want to stablize this

condition and hopefully erase this condition altogether and repair the damages

it has already caused. So we will see what results we get in 3 months of

continuous use.

My mother is on the health pack that works on each of these systems, the health

pack includes:

Fiberzon: called the " intestinal broom " , inlcudes una de gato, sangre de drago,

boldo, jatoba, slippery elm bark artichoke leaf, flax seed, psyllium husk,

papaya leaf, camu camu, hibiscus flower, licorice root, fenugreekseed, oat bran,

quebra pedra, sego palm. This is good for breaking down intestinal debris and

sweeping it out. works and strengthens the entire digestive system

Illumination: call the " all over body tonic " , includes una de gato, pau d'arco,

suma, tayuya, fucus, artichoke, boldo, star anise, bitter orange, pedra hume

caa, alfalfa, horsetail, muira puama, catuaba, carqueja, quebra pedra, jurubeba,

yerba mate, cornsilk, passion flower, lemon balm, mulunga, espinheira santa,

cajueiro, lemongrass, peppermint, pata de vaca, sarsaparilla, jatoba, chamomile,

stevia, chucchuuasi, sangre de drago. This is a tonic for all the 9 systems

providing what it needs to build and replenish.

Sumacazon: called the " perisian ginseng " , includes suma, maca, muira puama,

and stevia. This is good for the male/female reproductive system, high

energy,the nervous system, and harmonizing the hormonal systems.

Aquazon: includes Klamath lake blue-green alga (Aph. flos-aquae; AFA) and Fucus

vesiculosus (kelp and bladderwrack) supports the immune and nervous systems, it

contains all 21 Amino Acids, promotes mental clarity, weight management,

promotes health tissue growth, lymphatic circulation, helps maintain a balance

in blood glucose levels, promotes the migration natural killer cells.

Shipibo Treasure Tea: includes Chanca piedra, jatoba, una de gato, chuchuhuasi,

stevia, tahari (pau d'arco) and yerba mate. Good for the urinary system and all

the other systems. Supports digestive and pulmonary health, antioxident, health

blood pressure, increases macrophase activity and antiviral properties. Like

the Illumintion this supports the entire body.

Stevia: Is a plant that grows in Amazon. it contains Stevia and grapefruit seed

extract. It is good for balancing the blood glucose and maintaing a health

blood pressure. Good for the Cardiovascular system, " a recent study

demostrated that the ability of sevioside and steviol to balance blood glucose

is a result of their ability to directly stimulate the insulin-producing cells

in the pancrease. " The grapefruit seed extract is good for its strong

anti-oxident properties and anti-microbial activities.

This health pack helps fortify the body's defenses and gives it the norishment

not provided by daily food consumption. If you notice many of the herbs repeat

themselves especially the stevia. It seems to be a necessity to good renal and

cardiovascular functions.

Here of some references

Melis MS (1996) A crude extract of Stevia rebaudiana increase the renal plasma

flow of normal and hypertensive rats. Braz J Med Biol Res29(5):669-675

Curi et al. (1986) Effects of Stevia rebaudiana on glucose tolerance in normal

adult humans. Braz J Med Biol Res 19(6):771-4

Chan et. al (2000) A double-blind placebo-controlled study of the effectiveness

and tolerability of oral stevioside in human hypertension. Br J Clini Pharmacol

50(3):215-220

Jeppensen PB (2000) Stevioside acts directly on pancreatic beta cells to secrete

insulin: actionsindependent of cyclic adenosine monophosphate and adenosine

triphosphate-sensitive K+ channel activity. Metabolism. 49(2):208-14

These are a few references on Stevia. But I am sure there is much more.

Tell me, I'll forget. show me, I may remember.

But involve me and I'll understand. (old chinese proverbs)

Sabe Sophia

What is Truth? Purity, Innocence,Virtuous and radiates PURE LOVE.......... Our

Divine SOUL.......... " Remember your SOUL "

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Here is a better number to contact Noella or via email. She said

you can contact her Weekdays before 5pm and on Weekends before 2pm. She will be

happy to explain these herbs to you a bit more completely than I can at this

point. Let me know how this information helps you.

Tell me, I'll forget. show me, I may remember.

But involve me and I'll understand. (old chinese proverbs)

Sabe Sophia

What is Truth? Purity, Innocence,Virtuous and radiates PURE LOVE.......... Our

Divine SOUL.......... " Remember your SOUL "

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[Guest guest]

Please let us know at the end of the three months the results of your

alternative medicine trial.

Also I'm interested in knowing is your mother taking any diabetes meds at all

besides the alternative ones? And are you/she doing frequent testing? How

often are you testing? Are you testing at all? What was her A1C last time it

was taken? Does she have any diabetes related complications now?

I'm sorry if you've talked about this before...my brain doesn't retain stuff

like it used to, smile.

Vicki

In a message dated 08/31/2002 10:11:40 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

sjpower374@... writes:

> My mother's blood sugar is already lowered, however we want to stablize this

> condition and hopefully erase this condition altogether and repair the

> damages it has already caused. So we will see what results we get in 3

> months of continuous use.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I

> use milk thistle as a tonic for my liver,

,

I ordered some milk thistle, along with my ALA order from iHerb, but

I haven't been taking the milk thiste, as the first day I took it I

had a severe headache... now that I've been taking the ALA twice a

day with no problems, I'll add the milk thistle again. Hopefully,

it's not an allergy causing the headache, as I know it's supposed to

support the liver.

Sandy H.