Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Hi Liesbeth, welcome back to the list! And thanks again for the nice card you sent me after Kasper arrived. I am not sure, whether you ever got my reply. Have you moved into your new house already? We did in December and it's great! Re the Creon forte, well, I think the whole discussion is about the potential risk of a substance, Eudragit L30D55, which is used as a coating on some enzyme brands like Ultrase or Panzytrat. There is some speculation, that this substance might be the culprit for a disease called fibrosing colonopathy. To get more information, you can follow the link below or read the abstracts I have copied. http://www.fibrosingcolonopathy.com/library.htm Solvay, the maker of Creon, claims that Eudragit is dangerous, but it can be a marketing strategy, because they use a different coating. Fiona has forever been on Creon 5, and we don't have a reason to change. The problem I see with the Creon 25 is, that you can't find an easy dosage for snacks. Whenever Fiona eats some chocolate or drinks a cup of milk, we give a Creon 5. And Jen, yep, your math is great :-))) The numbers behind the different enzyme brands stand for the amount of lipase units in thousands, e.g. one Creon 25 contains 25,000 lipase units. In a british study the docs have found out, that exceeding the enzyme dosage above 10,000 units per kg/ per day doesn't help at all. I have copied this finding below too! Hope some of you find it interesting. We have reduced Fiona's enzyme dosage over the last half year from 8,000 units per kg/ per day to 6,000 and haven't seen great a difference. Bye-bye Torsten, dad of Fiona 3wcf e-mail: aberdeen95@... TI: Comparative and experimental pathology of fibrosing colonopathy. AU: van-Velzen-D; Ball-LM; Dezfulian-AR; Southgate-A; -CV AD: Department of Fetal and Infant Pathology, University of Liverpool, UK. SO: Postgrad-Med-J. 1996 Mar; 72 Suppl 2: S39-48; discussion S49-51 ISSN: 0032-5473 PY: 1996 LA: ENGLISH CP: ENGLAND AB: Although the occurrence of fibrosing colonopathy is temporally associated with the introduction of high-strength pancreatic enzyme supplements, its pathogenesis remains uncertain. The UK case-control study showed fibrosing colonopathy to be associated with high doses of high-strength pancreatic enzyme supplements and with a group of brands which occupy only 30% of the market. Two alternative hypotheses were proposed to explain the aetiology of fibrosing colonopathy: exposure to high levels of enzymes or to as yet unidentified components of the formulation. Comparison of the anatomical pathology of fibrosing colonopathy with that of previously encountered forms of obstructive gastrointestinal pathology, such as stricturing lesions due to potassium chloride preparations and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, confirmed it to be a previously unencountered, long-segment lesion of the colon. Thus the use of the descriptive term 'stricture' is a misnomer leading to much clinical confusion when discussing obstructive bowel pathology in cystic fibrosis patients. Gavage studies in the rat with one of the two monomers (ethyl acrylate) forming the methacrylic acid copolymer (Eudragit L30D55) used for the enteric coating of the high-strength pancreatic enzyme supplements, have shown pathology comparable to fibrosing colonopathy. These findings prompted a series of exploratory studies in adolescent pigs. After seven days caecal gavage of Eudragit L30D55 at doses of 10, 50 or 500 mg/kg/day (comparable to human intake), extensive fibrosing colonopathy-like changes, inclusive of dense submucosal fibrosis, were noted at all dose levels in seven out of nine animals. Similar studies of the monomer components of the Eudragit L30D55 copolymer, at dose levels of 0.015 to 50 mg/kg/day, representing possible residues in Eudragit L30D55, did not produce comparable changes. The conclusion is that, although the precise mechanisms have not been elucidated, the role of enteric coatings containing Eudragit L30D55 in the pathogenesis of fibrosing colonopathy requires urgent further study. AU: -C-J CA: Univ.London LO: London, U.K. CO: LANCAO JN: Lancet ( 353, No. 9156, 911-15, 1999 ) TI: Colonic toxicity from pancreatins: a contemporary safety issue. AB: An unknown form of colonic fibrosis termed fibrosing colonopathy caused by pancreatin in children with cystic fibrosis is reviewed with respect to the safety of preparations available. Topics discussed include evidence implicating high-strength pancreatins, fibrosing colonopathy outside the U.K., pancreatin products, pancreatin intake, hypotheses on pathogenesis of fibrosing colonopathy, recent developments, regulatory responses and toxicological benefits. It appears formulation may have a role to play in this toxicity. In conclusion, had the use of high-strength pancreatins been more conservative, their ability to treat cystic fibrosis might have been continued without restriction. EX: Colonic fibrosis has been identified in young children with cystic fibrosis. Symptoms include failure to thrive (distal intestinal obstructive syndrome, DIOS), persistent abdominal pain with obstruction or distention, bloody diarrhea, chylous ascites, thickened bowel wall, reduced peristalsis, foreshortening of the colon, loss of haustrations, " lead pipe " colon and dilation of the terminal ileum. An association was made between intake of high-strength pancreatins and fibrosing colonopathy. Different high-strength pancreatins have different enteric coatings and it is thought colonic fibrosis is due to high-intake of Eudragit L30D-55-coated pancreatin. One possibility is a direct toxic effect of Eudragit L30D-55 on the intestinal wall. This agent delivered to pigs via an intracecal fistula produces colonic lumenal narrowing, abscess formation and a fibrosing reaction in the lamina propria. However, the detergent and polysorbate-80 containing vehicle alone used in the study causes mucosal erosion and atrophy of the distal colon. Toxicology studies of a monomer of Eudragit L30D-55, ethyl acrylate show p.o. administration causes edema, ulceration and acanthosis of the rodent forestomach. Distal small-intestine damage has been caused by enteric coated KCl supplements for patients taking K-wasting diuretics. There were reports of small-bowel stenosis with perforations. In some patients, lesions may also involve the terminal ileum with severe fibrosing colonopathy. Creon 25000 has been less frequently associated with colonic fibrosis which may be due to the phthalate-based enteric coating which has a more rapid dissolution in the small intestine. 2 Fig. 1 Tab. 37 Ref. (IG) Toxicology Department, St. Bartholemew's and Royal London Hospital, School of Medicine and Dentistry, Charterhouse Square, London EC1M 6BQ, England. (e-mail: C.J.@...) TI: The pathology of fibrosing colonopathy of cystic fibrosis: a study of 12 cases and review of the literature. AU: Pawel-BR; de-Chadarevian-JP; Franco-ME AD: Department of Pathology, St 's Hospital for Children and Allegheny University of the Health Sciences, MCP-Hahnemann School of Medicine, Philadelphia, PA 19134-1095, USA. SO: Hum-Pathol. 1997 Apr; 28(4): 395-9 ISSN: 0046-8177 PY: 1997 LA: ENGLISH CP: UNITED-STATES AB: The authors studied eight colectomy and eight biopsy specimens from 12 patients with cystic fibrosis who had developed fibrosing colonopathy, a complication observed in patients receiving high-strength enzyme replacement. The colectomies originated from five male and three female patients ranging in age from 18 months to 6 years. Five individuals had localized strictures of the right colon and three had stenosing fibrosis of the entire colon. The affected colon had a cobblestone appearance, submucosal fibrosis, thickening of the muscularis propria and chronic mucosal inflammation in all patients, with active cryptitis in four. Moderate to severe infiltration by eosinophils, with increase in the number of mast cells, and widespread interruption of the muscularis mucosa were present in every case. Four colectomies were preceded by endoscopic biopsies; four patients who have not undergone surgery also underwent biopsy. All the biopsies showed evidence of active or chronic inflammation, and all had increased mucosal eosinophils. Prolonged colonic mucosal contact with either the enzymes and/or the enteric coating itself may lead to mucosal colonic ulceration and inflammation. Topical allergy may then promote the stenosing fibroplasia. Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:45:15 GMT0BST Subject: CF: Pancreatic Insufficiency and Enzymes Hi We and others have found that increasing the intake of pancreatic supplement above 10,000units/Kg body weight/day gives no improvement in clinical status (weight and height). Further more excessive amounts of pancreatic supplement have been linked to the development of a stricture of the colon known as fibrosing colonopathy. The condition is not common and therefore the risk is probably low. However I can understand why a clinician might recommend against taking elevated levels where the clinical benefits are not clear and there is a possible associated risk albeit remote. Henry Ryley Dr Henry C Ryley Dept of Medical Microbiology University of Wales College of Medicine Cardiff CF4 4XN Wales, UK Tel: 01222 743521(office) or 744472 (lab) Fax: 01222 744123 or 742161 RyleyH@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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