Re: euthanasia

[Guest guest]

Oh my! Can this be reported?

> Carolyn wrote:

This was in Oregon last week. Has anyone else heard of this? Was it some attempt

to scare her out of her depression? What the heck???

[Guest guest]

> Carolyn wrote:

> This was in Oregon last week. Has anyone else heard of this? Was it some

attempt to scare her out of her depression? What the heck???

Aloha SG Mama!

Believe it or not, Oregon is (I think) the ONLY state that has actually made it

a possibility for a person to get assisted suicide. I know it sounds like

something out of a horror movie, so I copied and pasted some information below

and then I put the link to another site so you and/or others could read more

in-depth information.

As bizarre as it sounds, her psychiatrist did nothing wrong. Here's some info

from one site:

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In 1994, voters in the state of Oregon approved a ballot measure that would have

legalized euthanasia under limited conditions. Under the Death With Dignity law,

a person who sought physician-assisted suicide would have to meet certain

criteria:

�The person must be terminally ill.

�The person must have six months or less to live.

�The person must make two oral requests for assistance in dying.

�The person must make one written request for assistance in dying.

�The person must convince two physicians that he or she is sincere and not

acting on a whim, and that the decision is voluntary.

�The person must not have been influenced by depression.

�The person must be informed of " the feasible alternatives, " including, but

not limited to, comfort care, hospice care, and pain control.

�The person must wait for 15 days.

Under the proposed law, a person who met all requirements could receive a

prescription of a barbiturate that would be sufficient to cause death.

Physicians would be prohibited from inducing death by injection or carbon

monoxide.

The NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE COMMITTEE, supported by the Roman Catholic Church,

obtained a court INJUNCTION to delay implementation of the measure. The law

stalled in the appeals process. In the meantime, the measure was not enacted. In

1997, there was a second public REFERENDUM, and the law was enacted. Within 24

hours of the announcement of the results, state officials had forms for

physicians to record instances of assisted suicide. These were later distributed

to physicians in the state. The form is entitled " Request for Medication to End

My Life in a Humane and Dignified Manner. "

Read more: Euthanasia - Oregon's Euthanasia Law - Person, Suicide, Drugs,

Federal, Terminally, and Physicians

http://law.jrank.org/pages/6602/Euthanasia-Oregon-s-Euthanasia-Law.html#ixzz17re\

thOs0

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Now, here is a link to the actual Oregon Governments page. I hope this helps:

http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/ph/pas/faqs.shtml

Stay as low on that infamous pain scale as possible this holiday season you all.

I know it's harder to do this time of year but not impossible!

Aloha Just For Now,

Wayne

[Guest guest]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. If it was designed to scare her out of her

depression it was really inappropriate.

Carolyn Eddy

" Sweet Goat Mama "

[Guest guest]

> Carolyn wrote:

> This was in Oregon last week. Has anyone else heard of this? Was it some

attempt to scare her out of her depression? What the heck???

Carolyn,

What state was the euthanasia Doctor from? I forgot how to spell his name but

didn't they try to pass a law and I never kept up with the criteria for allowing

this instances but I know the requestors would have to go through a hearing

before a judge for right to make life decisions and competency issues. I know

and trust you and know you would not just say this if it were not true as you

know it.

Now, this lady needs to report her counselors to their credentialing agency and

she also needs to contact her insurance carrier and let them know. This lady

does not need to have any medications so she can euthanasia herself. I also

know the procedure and this is scary as supposedly the people step back and let

the requestor carry it out and it is video taped.

No matter what, this is not appropriate counseling practices even in kidding.

The criteria for seeing a patient in a patient concerned of taking their life

are, " Are they safe or safety to others " and the concern should be the safety of

the patient.

These Doctors are unethical or this lady needs to clarify this and ask them to

write down the request for the euthanasia so she can get her primary care

Doctors approval. This will show them and they should get what they deserve.

Aren't you concerned about your friend and as a Nurse, you know you should

follow up is she is making up things or getting them wrong, where she normally

would not.

This is scary and I will try to research the Euthanasia legislature requests or

background and let you know what I found. These are not people she needs to be

around trying to relieve her depression. I mean I have heard people jokingly

say oh, I am okay considering the alternative but both you and I know in Medical

Ethic practices and the training we have as Nurses and Health Care

Professionals, it is NEVER appropriate to joke about his to a patient or client

in this setting or others, and it is highly unprofessional.

I have said " Oh just put me out to pasture " but I am going to watch these

remarks with people like that around.

Let us know what you find out also. Bennie

[Guest guest]

Wow. Very scary!!!

> Carolyn wrote:

> This was in Oregon last week. Has anyone else heard of this? Was it some

attempt to scare her out of her depression? What the heck???

[Guest guest]

I can see using euthanasia for someone who is going to die in lots of pain but

to suggest that to someone who is not is just plain wrong. Depression hits

everyone at one time or another. That doctor needs to be reported to the medical

board.

Gentle hugs,

Ms.Katurah

> Carolyn wrote:

This was in Oregon last week. Has anyone else heard of this? Was it some attempt

to scare her out of her depression? What the heck???

[Guest guest]

I talked to her again today and she stands by her story. She says she's not

interested in their offer, but that there were 3 doctors offering to give her

papers to sign.

I now have her primary care doctor, who was apparently not involved and I am

going to call her tomorrow and report.

This woman may be in a lot of pain but she is ambulatory, drives, and rides

horses, for pete's sake. She is depressed because she does not have a boyfriend,

which is not a good reason to kill yourself, IMHO.

Carolyn Eddy

" Sweet Goat Mama "

[Guest guest]

I do not have any problem with euthanasia as an option but this is not fitting

the circumstances at all.

Carolyn Eddy

" Sweet Goat Mama "