Re: Diabetes Question

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I have the same problem with the sugar-need a little to get lower. However, my numbers go from 70 up to 300. I have said this before--I can start out at the same level and take the correct amount of insulin for the number of carbs I am eating. I can eat a bologna sandwich and be very high blood sugar two hours later, and I can eat a quarter pounder and french fries and be very low blood sugar only an hour later.I believe it has to do with how much physical activiity I am doing.

Also, I am always around 250 to 280 in the morning. I think that is my bodies "normal" level. Just like my temperature is always 97 or so, no 98.6. It does not matter what I eat before I go to bed or how long before I eat. The endrocronologist upped the insulin I take before I go to bed from 20 to now 32 last week.

I am going to make an appointment with my PCP and maybe the doctor who diagnosed the melas--he is two hours away. My sugar numbers have always been like this and that is why I went on insulin. It was supposed to make things more level.

Good luck with figuring out your sugars. I have an unverified medical theory that exercise and doing things like sanding, lifting raise the blood sugar. Someone on the list theorized it last year. If it is a known fact that stress and illness raise the blood sugar, if we are exercise and heat intolerant why wouldn't that raise blood sugar.

All the endrocronologist says is that exercise lowers the blood sugar!

Diabetes Question

I need potatoes--where I grew up the farmers grew potatosI love them too <grin> and wish I could eat them every day. I have noticed recent problems with an inability to regulate my own sugar as it is like a rollercoaster. Sometimes it's in the 150 range...which I consider high and then it goes to the low 70's which I consider low and I can really feel it when it goes there. I'm not on any insulin but totally diet controlled. Something I have noticed is that I seem to need a little sugar to keep the numbers under some control. It's almost as if the hint of sugar helps me more than staying off it. Has anyone else noticed this?I have found that this diabetes problem is a very hard one to figure out.Alice Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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I can eat a bologna sandwich and be very high blood sugar two hours later, and I can eat a quarter pounder and french fries and be very low blood sugar only an hour later.I believe it has to do with how much physical activiity I am doing.

Janet,

My endocrinologist in Rhode Island told me that if I consume carbohydrates and take my sugar reading one hour after, the carbs will make my sugar drop quite low and then an hour or so later the sugar reading will rise to a very high level. She said that carbs will make the sugar reading cause this unusual phenomenon but they are absolutely bad for someone dealing with a blood sugar issue. She also told me that my sugar readings can be affected the next day by something I ate the day before. That sounds like what is happening to you.

My blood sugar is always highest in the morning. I understand they call this the "dawn" effect and probably has to do with the fact that we have laying down for the night....with no exercise at all. Sometimes it worries me but if I go straight to the kitchen and eat something with protein..no carbs... the sugar reading drops. This was also the advice of my endocrinologist in RI. I told her I was afraid to eat in the morning and she told me that that was the wrong thing to do....just eat protein. For years, before I had the sugar issue arise, I have not been a breakfast eater. My normal day has been to eat the first thing no earlier than noon and very often when I was working, it would be two o'clock in the afternoon before I ate. This was because eating made me feel so tired. Now I think that my blood sugar would elevate when I ate because I usually ate carbs, thus the tired feeling.

I found that the best control I've had with the blood sugar issue was when I stayed under 20 carbs a day. Now that is a very low number and required reading labels on everything I ate, but my sugar stabalized around the 100 mark, which is acceptable. I have found it hard to do this on a regular basis, but I know that it works for me and should probably get back to it. It's only when I'm not eating this way that I find I need sugar itself to jolt my system into doing what it's supposed to do.

Please remember that I am not on any insulin. I am still working on diet control.

Thanks so much for your response to this thread. I know you have a lot of experience dealing with diabetes. Good luck with finding a new endocrinologist. Finding new doctors who are willing to handle our medical needs can be a challenge. The endocrinologist in RI would not do anything without consulting with Dr Cohen ... which was good. Here.. my PCP thinks she can handle the blood sugar issue, thus has not referred me to an endo. I'm not entirely sure that she is correct on this matter, but try to follow the instructions I had from the endo in RI.

Alice

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Alice and All,

s blood sugar is just the other way around,very low in the morning,high at night.She does not take any meds,we try to control with diet only. is not a sweet eater,she's more into salty.Loves her chips!!!

I was worried when we started the MCT oil because it seemed to raise her levels but I have decided her sugar was runing so high because she was sick.Since she has been feeling better the oil actually seems to help lower her sugar level.

, Mom to

Re: Diabetes Question

I can eat a bologna sandwich and be very high blood sugar two hours later, and I can eat a quarter pounder and french fries and be very low blood sugar only an hour later.I believe it has to do with how much physical activiity I am doing. Janet,My endocrinologist in Rhode Island told me that if I consume carbohydrates and take my sugar reading one hour after, the carbs will make my sugar drop quite low and then an hour or so later the sugar reading will rise to a very high level. She said that carbs will make the sugar reading cause this unusual phenomenon but they are absolutely bad for someone dealing with a blood sugar issue. She also told me that my sugar readings can be affected the next day by something I ate the day before. That sounds like what is happening to you.My blood sugar is always highest in the morning. I understand they call this the " dawn " effect and probably has to do with the fact that we have laying down for the night....with no exercise at all. Sometimes it worries me but if I go straight to the kitchen and eat something with protein..no carbs... the sugar reading drops. This was also the advice of my endocrinologist in RI. I told her I was afraid to eat in the morning and she told me that that was the wrong thing to do....just eat protein. For years, before I had the sugar issue arise, I have not been a breakfast eater. My normal day has been to eat the first thing no earlier than noon and very often when I was working, it would be two o'clock in the afternoon before I ate. This was because eating made me feel so tired. Now I think that my blood sugar would elevate when I ate because I usually ate carbs, thus the tired feeling.I found that the best control I've had with the blood sugar issue was when I stayed under 20 carbs a day. Now that is a very low number and required reading labels on everything I ate, but my sugar stabalized around the 100 mark, which is acceptable. I have found it hard to do this on a regular basis, but I know that it works for me and should probably get back to it. It's only when I'm not eating this way that I find I need sugar itself to jolt my system into doing what it's supposed to do.Please remember that I am not on any insulin. I am still working on diet control. Thanks so much for your response to this thread. I know you have a lot of experience dealing with diabetes. Good luck with finding a new endocrinologist. Finding new doctors who are willing to handle our medical needs can be a challenge. The endocrinologist in RI would not do anything without consulting with Dr Cohen ... which was good. Here.. my PCP thinks she can handle the blood sugar issue, thus has not referred me to an endo. I'm not entirely sure that she is correct on this matter, but try to follow the instructions I had from the endo in RI. Alice Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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That is good to hear.

laurie

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:24:17 -0700

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Subject: Re: Diabetes Question

Alice and All,

s blood sugar is just the other way around,very low in the morning,high at night.She does not take any meds,we try to control with diet only. is not a sweet eater,she's more into salty.Loves her chips!!!

I was worried when we started the MCT oil because it seemed to raise her levels but I have decided her sugar was runing so high because she was sick.Since she has been feeling better the oil actually seems to help lower her sugar level.

, Mom to

Re: Diabetes Question

I can eat a bologna sandwich and be very high blood sugar two hours later, and I can eat a quarter pounder and french fries and be very low blood sugar only an hour later.I believe it has to do with how much physical activiity I am doing.

Janet,

My endocrinologist in Rhode Island told me that if I consume carbohydrates and take my sugar reading one hour after, the carbs will make my sugar drop quite low and then an hour or so later the sugar reading will rise to a very high level. She said that carbs will make the sugar reading cause this unusual phenomenon but they are absolutely bad for someone dealing with a blood sugar issue. She also told me that my sugar readings can be affected the next day by something I ate the day before. That sounds like what is happening to you.

My blood sugar is always highest in the morning. I understand they call this the " dawn " effect and probably has to do with the fact that we have laying down for the night....with no exercise at all. Sometimes it worries me but if I go straight to the kitchen and eat something with protein..no carbs... the sugar reading drops. This was also the advice of my endocrinologist in RI. I told her I was afraid to eat in the morning and she told me that that was the wrong thing to do....just eat protein. For years, before I had the sugar issue arise, I have not been a breakfast eater. My normal day has been to eat the first thing no earlier than noon and very often when I was working, it would be two o'clock in the afternoon before I ate. This was because eating made me feel so tired. Now I think that my blood sugar would elevate when I ate because I usually ate carbs, thus the tired feeling.

I found that the best control I've had with the blood sugar issue was when I stayed under 20 carbs a day. Now that is a very low number and required reading labels on everything I ate, but my sugar stabalized around the 100 mark, which is acceptable. I have found it hard to do this on a regular basis, but I know that it works for me and should probably get back to it. It's only when I'm not eating this way that I find I need sugar itself to jolt my system into doing what it's supposed to do.

Please remember that I am not on any insulin. I am still working on diet control.

Thanks so much for your response to this thread. I know you have a lot of experience dealing with diabetes. Good luck with finding a new endocrinologist. Finding new doctors who are willing to handle our medical needs can be a challenge. The endocrinologist in RI would not do anything without consulting with Dr Cohen ... which was good. Here.. my PCP thinks she can handle the blood sugar issue, thus has not referred me to an endo. I'm not entirely sure that she is correct on this matter, but try to follow the instructions I had from the endo in RI.

Alice

Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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Glad to hear you have it under control!

Re: Diabetes Question

I can eat a bologna sandwich and be very high blood sugar two hours later, and I can eat a quarter pounder and french fries and be very low blood sugar only an hour later.I believe it has to do with how much physical activiity I am doing. Janet,My endocrinologist in Rhode Island told me that if I consume carbohydrates and take my sugar reading one hour after, the carbs will make my sugar drop quite low and then an hour or so later the sugar reading will rise to a very high level. She said that carbs will make the sugar reading cause this unusual phenomenon but they are absolutely bad for someone dealing with a blood sugar issue. She also told me that my sugar readings can be affected the next day by something I ate the day before. That sounds like what is happening to you.My blood sugar is always highest in the morning. I understand they call this the "dawn" effect and probably has to do with the fact that we have laying down for the night....with no exercise at all. Sometimes it worries me but if I go straight to the kitchen and eat something with protein..no carbs... the sugar reading drops. This was also the advice of my endocrinologist in RI. I told her I was afraid to eat in the morning and she told me that that was the wrong thing to do....just eat protein. For years, before I had the sugar issue arise, I have not been a breakfast eater. My normal day has been to eat the first thing no earlier than noon and very often when I was working, it would be two o'clock in the afternoon before I ate. This was because eating made me feel so tired. Now I think that my blood sugar would elevate when I ate because I usually ate carbs, thus the tired feeling.I found that the best control I've had with the blood sugar issue was when I stayed under 20 carbs a day. Now that is a very low number and required reading labels on everything I ate, but my sugar stabalized around the 100 mark, which is acceptable. I have found it hard to do this on a regular basis, but I know that it works for me and should probably get back to it. It's only when I'm not eating this way that I find I need sugar itself to jolt my system into doing what it's supposed to do.Please remember that I am not on any insulin. I am still working on diet control. Thanks so much for your response to this thread. I know you have a lot of experience dealing with diabetes. Good luck with finding a new endocrinologist. Finding new doctors who are willing to handle our medical needs can be a challenge. The endocrinologist in RI would not do anything without consulting with Dr Cohen ... which was good. Here.. my PCP thinks she can handle the blood sugar issue, thus has not referred me to an endo. I'm not entirely sure that she is correct on this matter, but try to follow the instructions I had from the endo in RI. Alice Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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This is very, very interesting. I will have to do some experimenting. I am also going to bring it to my PCP. The only reason she referred me to the endrocronologist was because she did not know of knew meds coming out. The insurance is starting to not pay for the blood draws and such at the endrocronologists office. Also, they now has a 4 month waiting period. My mail order pharmacy faxed them for a refill and they did not respond. The receptionist was going to mail me an appointment date--that was 5/28/02. The dietician that called me last week was responding to some readings I mailed in 2 weeks before at her request. I think it is time to drop them.

Thanks for the info Alice.

Janet

Re: Diabetes Question

I can eat a bologna sandwich and be very high blood sugar two hours later, and I can eat a quarter pounder and french fries and be very low blood sugar only an hour later.I believe it has to do with how much physical activiity I am doing. Janet,My endocrinologist in Rhode Island told me that if I consume carbohydrates and take my sugar reading one hour after, the carbs will make my sugar drop quite low and then an hour or so later the sugar reading will rise to a very high level. She said that carbs will make the sugar reading cause this unusual phenomenon but they are absolutely bad for someone dealing with a blood sugar issue. She also told me that my sugar readings can be affected the next day by something I ate the day before. That sounds like what is happening to you.My blood sugar is always highest in the morning. I understand they call this the "dawn" effect and probably has to do with the fact that we have laying down for the night....with no exercise at all. Sometimes it worries me but if I go straight to the kitchen and eat something with protein..no carbs... the sugar reading drops. This was also the advice of my endocrinologist in RI. I told her I was afraid to eat in the morning and she told me that that was the wrong thing to do....just eat protein. For years, before I had the sugar issue arise, I have not been a breakfast eater. My normal day has been to eat the first thing no earlier than noon and very often when I was working, it would be two o'clock in the afternoon before I ate. This was because eating made me feel so tired. Now I think that my blood sugar would elevate when I ate because I usually ate carbs, thus the tired feeling.I found that the best control I've had with the blood sugar issue was when I stayed under 20 carbs a day. Now that is a very low number and required reading labels on everything I ate, but my sugar stabalized around the 100 mark, which is acceptable. I have found it hard to do this on a regular basis, but I know that it works for me and should probably get back to it. It's only when I'm not eating this way that I find I need sugar itself to jolt my system into doing what it's supposed to do.Please remember that I am not on any insulin. I am still working on diet control. Thanks so much for your response to this thread. I know you have a lot of experience dealing with diabetes. Good luck with finding a new endocrinologist. Finding new doctors who are willing to handle our medical needs can be a challenge. The endocrinologist in RI would not do anything without consulting with Dr Cohen ... which was good. Here.. my PCP thinks she can handle the blood sugar issue, thus has not referred me to an endo. I'm not entirely sure that she is correct on this matter, but try to follow the instructions I had from the endo in RI. Alice Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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Janet,

I do hope you are successful getting another doctor because I don't think you

are getting good care with the one you have. I forgot to mention in my e that

Complex Carbs are much better for you so you can include them in your diet but

you can't make them a big part of your diet.

This is a tough problem. I can understand why it frustrates anyone. Have you

tried taking Alpha Lipoic Acid? I know it helps but it does give me some wicked

heartburn and I'm on meds for that. I have to take a lesser doseage than Dr

Cohen has recommended because I can't handle the uncomfortable feeling from the

heartburn.

Alice