Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 Well...yes...but I did say " read labels " . That was in reference to fillers used in hot dogs, etc. Of course " real " meat, chicken, fish are better, smile. Vicki In a message dated 07/16/2002 12:43:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time, wsm311@... writes: > > Yes, but Pat likes hot dogs. They aren't very good for ya'. The same is > true > with SOME sausages, pepperoni and other processed meats like bologna, > luncheon meat, Spam, etc. Fish, seafood and chicken are good to eat.....the > > kind not fried, but baked, broiled, poached...... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 i think i'm switching to " real " meat. it's healthier. there's tons of fresh fish, and lots of ways to fix chicken. i've heard for years that red meat is not that healthy. i'm eating leftover meat loaf tonite, but i'm gonna be checking on some recipes for fishies, and get a grill (i saw one on Oprah that was counter top). right now, all i have is Foreman, and i'm not sure that works for all fish. i have a little oven, microwave, and fry pan, but i'm thinking one of those little griddles would be nice for vegies too. pat (gonna try to figure out the low-carb and calorie thing and just make it work) > reference to fillers > used in hot dogs, etc. Of course " real " meat, chicken, fish are better, > smile. Vicki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 not sure what's in it. i have another frozen in freezer. i need to check the carbs, fats, etc., and if it's too much, i will donate it to a neighbor. pat > > filler (bread crumbs, etc.) that is high in carbs -- depends on how it's > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 Pat wrote: > fresh fish, and lots of ways to fix chicken. i've heard for > years that red > meat is not that healthy. i'm eating leftover meat loaf > tonite, but i'm First, it is not at all clear that eating red meat is unhealthy. For a different viewpoint on this read: http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/articles/ssdf.shtml where it is noted that: " To understand where this complexity can lead in a simple example, consider a steak--to be precise, a porterhouse, select cut, with a half-centimeter layer of fat, ... After broiling, this porterhouse reduces to a serving of almost equal parts fat and protein. Fifty-one percent of the fat is monounsaturated, of which virtually all (90%) is oleic acid, the same healthy fat that's in olive oil. Saturated fat constitutes 45% of the total fat, but a third of that is stearic acid, which is, at the very least, harmless. The remaining 4% of the fat is polyunsaturated, which also improves cholesterol levels. In sum, well over half--and perhaps as much as 70%--of the fat content of a porterhouse will improve cholesterol levels compared to what they would be if bread, potatoes, or pasta were consumed instead. The remaining 30% will raise LDL but will also raise HDL. All of this suggests that eating a porterhouse steak rather than carbohydrates might actually improve heart disease risk, although no nutritional authority who hasn't written a high-fat diet book will say this publicly. " Next, be careful with meat loaf. It can contain quite a bit of high carb filler (bread crumbs, etc.) that is high in carbs -- depends on how it's made. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 the rule here is they can have all the high carbs they want, but they can't leave it out on the counter, because guess who just takes one bite, if you say me, you are correct. You can also ask them not to eat in front of you. Phyllis N > >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: RE: Re: substitution >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:45:52 -0400 > >I wish I could clean out all the carbs in my house, but my husband and 4 >teenagers would fight that tooth and nail and I just don't have it in me to >the be food police for everyone. I can substitute some of the foods, and I >don't normally buy snacks (too expensive), but we do have many other high >carb things around. > >What I find so overwhelming is just the fact that I have to learn about >this >illness and a new way of eating. My youngest son has bipolar disorder (I >grieved for a whole year over that diagnosis) and I've spent the last 4 >years working to keep him stable, learning about his illness and symptoms, >and teaching him about his illness, medication, and how to recognize signs >that he is becoming unstable. I'm just plain worn out. And how do you >think I self medicated when I was falling into that deep pit of despair? >With carbs, of course! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 Phyllis, My husband loves a particular kind of candy bar, and it's not my favorite, but I know that if I'm aware that they're in the cupboard, I'll eat some, so if they're ever in the house I ask him to hide them, or better yet, take them to work with him. I figure " out of sight, out of mind. " :-) Sandy -------------------------- >>the rule here is they can have all the high carbs they want, but >>they can't >>leave it out on the counter, because guess who just takes one >>bite, if you >>say me, you are correct. You can also ask them not to eat in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 my mom made rolls every nite while i was growing up, and i adore(d) my ABM. i still may try to make some one day, but not today. lol pat > but not store > bought... I love home-made bread and good Italian or French bread. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 whew. horrid person. lol there are some days those little cheese thingies (can't remember the name) sing out to me. other days, it's pizza. i hate going to Sam's or Costco because they are cooking, and lord help me when i get near Captain Ds or any place frying seafood. the good thing is that i remember that the oil does in my tummy now (like i end up getting sick and barfing), and the carbs give me a huge spike and a headache. i now have gotten to the point of asking myself if the after effects are worth it. i don't think i will be visiting KFC, Captain Ds or those wonderful places again any time soon. pat > HEETOS! *sigh* > > Tootie > (The terrible) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 if the stores would only stop selling Lay's Gormet El Bistro Applewood BBQ Cheddar chips! Mmmmmmmmmmm, how my body craves for those! Thankfully, I've never been too tempted by potato chips or tortilla chips, but real baked potatoes... I miss them! I'm not at all tempted by Mc's fries either, but there's one restaurant we go to that has the best fries -- with the skin on. I mostly miss eating bread, but not store bought... I love home-made bread and good Italian or French bread. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 O.K. I've always heard that confession is good for the soul. I'M THE CHEETO BANDITO!!! I can't think of anything that bothers me more than having to avoid the chip aisle just to keep from being tempted by those wonderful, crunchy, cheesy CHEETOS! *sigh* Tootie (The terrible) RE: Re: substitution if the stores would only stop selling Lay's Gormet El Bistro Applewood BBQ Cheddar chips! Mmmmmmmmmmm, how my body craves for those! Thankfully, I've never been too tempted by potato chips or tortilla chips, but real baked potatoes... I miss them! I'm not at all tempted by Mc's fries either, but there's one restaurant we go to that has the best fries -- with the skin on. I mostly miss eating bread, but not store bought... I love home-made bread and good Italian or French bread. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Eating carbs cause carb cravings. If you can go without those wonderful Lays chips for a week or so you'll find yourself craving them less...go without them for a month and you probably won't even think about them any more. Well, hardly ever. OTOH, having a few once in a while won't kill you. But it'll probably make you want more. I think it's just easier to avoid things like that entirely. Vicki In a message dated 07/17/2002 7:17:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, misscindy8@... writes: > Okay, so what happens if I do slip and eat a serving of those wonderful Lays > El Bistro Applewood BBQ Chedder chips? Can I ever have any of those > wonderful chips again? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Okay, so what happens if I do slip and eat a serving of those wonderful Lays El Bistro Applewood BBQ Chedder chips? Can I ever have any of those wonderful chips again? Manassas VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2002 Report Share Posted July 19, 2002 , I'm no expert but here's my opinion. I don't think there's anything wrong with eating a few chips or having a special treat once in a while. You just need to read the label and see how many carbs are in a serving and don't eat the whole bag (as I have been known to do in my past life). Just treat it as a starch exchange (if you are doing the ADA thing) or cut down the carbs at your next meal. One of the reasons that we are told to avoid junky snacks is because they provide no nutrition at all, so instead of having a slice of whole wheat bread that has fiber and other good stuff in it, you're " wasting " a starch serving on chips, which provide nothing good for you. As others here have said, all you can do is try it and check your BG afterward to see how it affects you. Personally, once I get my weight under control I intend to have small treats once in a while. I just know I have to work them into my meal plan and not eat them in addition to everything else. Once I started eating the way my endo told me to, my BG was quickly under control. I've experimented with a few foods and so far nothing I've eaten has caused a big rise in my BG. Then again, I'm only eating small portions of the " bad " stuff. If I had to go forward thinking I would live the rest of my life without ever again having Baskin Robbins Peanut Butter & Chocolate ice cream, I would be so depressed! I can have it, just not a whole pint at a sitting. Again, this is just my opinion. Kim Kimmee@... ~~~~It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got~~~~ -Sheryl Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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