Re: Daily Headaches & Weepiness

[Guest guest]

Are you on anything for your thyroid?

I was getting that, too, until I started Armour. I also get that way (without

the headaches though) when I need to increase my Armour.

-Olif

[Guest guest]

>>I started Cortef 5 weeks ago. I've noticed for the past two weeks that

I'm having headaches daily...sometimes waking up with one and sometimes

it's delayed until lunch but it inevitably shows up. I've also noticed

that I cry at the drop of a hat, about anything and everything. I can

only assume that these things are related to the med since that's the

only thing that's changed in my environment. Has anyone else had

related symptoms? Did they eventually go away?<<

These symptoms are typical of HYPOTHYROID which can worsen when you tak eenough

HC and then do nbot build to a proper thyroid dose. Sounds like you just need

more thyroid.

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[Guest guest]

I'm at 8 grains of Armour per day already. I still have all of my same

hypo symptoms...plus these two new ones since starting Cortef. Is it

possible that I could need more than 8 grains of Armour? My FT3 and FT4

are over lab ranges and my TSH is < .01.

>

> Are you on anything for your thyroid?

>

> I was getting that, too, until I started Armour. I also get that way

(without the headaches though) when I need to increase my Armour.

>

> -Olif

>

>

[Guest guest]

" My FT3 and FT4

are over lab ranges and my TSH is < .01. "

Are these blood results or saliva?

-Olif

[Guest guest]

>>I'm at 8 grains of Armour per day already. I still have all of my same

hypo symptoms...plus these two new ones since starting Cortef. Is it

possible that I could need more than 8 grains of Armour? My FT3 and FT4

are over lab ranges and my TSH is < .01.<<

On this much Armrou and with high labs I would suggest getting RT3 tested. This

is where I was going a year ago and up and down wiht thyroid or HC did not seem

to be makign much difference and though I had alot of resolution o bad hypo

symptoms many still remained. What happens is RT3 is bound to the same receptors

that are needed for T3 to enter the cells. and the only way to clear out RT3 is

ot stop taking ANY T4 containing meds then use supressive doses of T3 only. but

an RT3 lab will tell you for certain if this is the problem.

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[Guest guest]

Val:

" On this much Armrou and with high labs I would suggest getting RT3 tested. "

Why would free T3 be high in a RT3 problem? Is this only true for blood free T3?

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

Cortisol can cause depression. Its not supposed to in the small doses we use,

but it is telling that the headaches and weepiness happened after you were on

cortef. Maybe you are extremely sensitive to it.

I used to have lots of headaches and weepiness before I had my depression

treated. Admittedly I should have been having help for my thyroid too but my

depression is not just my thyroid though that is a big part of it. I really do

have a neurochemical imbalance that requires help beyond just treating my

thyroid and adrenals. Maybe you do too. I am currently experimenting with

substituting htp tryptophan for some of my meds. That helps but doesn't

completely eliminate my need for the medication. Yes, sometimes, rare as it is,

the traditional docs can contribute to our health too. I mean sometimes pigs fly

(in airplanes), the Moon is blue, and traditional Docs actually know what they

are doing!

.. Daily Headaches & Weepiness

Anyone else?

I started Cortef 5 weeks ago. I've noticed for the past two weeks that

I'm having headaches daily...sometimes waking up with one and sometimes

it's delayed until lunch but it inevitably shows up. I've also noticed

that I cry at the drop of a hat, about anything and everything. I can

only assume that these things are related to the med since that's the

only thing that's changed in my environment. Has anyone else had

related symptoms? Did they eventually go away?

Thanks!

Kimberlie

[Guest guest]

It could also be because cortisol was started 5 weeks ago it has used

up the thyroid circulating in the blood and now an armour increase is

needed

Lynda

Re: Daily Headaches & Weepiness

> Cortisol can cause depression. Its not supposed to in the small

> doses we use, but it is telling that the headaches and weepiness

> happened after you were on cortef. Maybe you are extremely sensitive

> to it.

>

[Guest guest]

Did your doctor tell you to watch for hyper signs while introducing

the HC while taking a high dosage of Armour? At a high dose like that

it might be a good idea to keep an eye out.

Also do you take any kind of supplements for your liver? Headaches

can be a sign that your liver may need some detoxing.

Have you ever tried a gluten free diet? Someone on the alt med group

posted that they had also been in the same position as yourself,

taking a high dosage of Armour that wasn't really working well, then

went on a gluten free diet and was able to cut the dosage in half.

You can have gluten problems and not have a clue that you have them.

Linn

> >

> > Are you on anything for your thyroid?

> >

> > I was getting that, too, until I started Armour. I also get that way

> (without the headaches though) when I need to increase my Armour.

> >

> > -Olif

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes the free T3 can be high or low but it is nbot getting to the cells

if the cell receptors are jammed full of RT3.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your replies!

Yes, the lab results I posted are blood test results (not saliva).

Val- is the RT3 test a blood test as well? I've never had that tested

as far a I know. Is this something that I would get my doc to do or

would I have to order it from a lab somewhere?

Also, I have done a gluten free diet before for 2 months without any

improvement. I've been tested for Celiac 3 times and but the antibody

tests always come back negative. I thought I'd give it a shot anyway

(not much of a stretch since I eat low carb anyway) but I didn't

notice any improvement over those 2 months.

>

> >>I'm at 8 grains of Armour per day already. I still have all of my

same

> hypo symptoms...plus these two new ones since starting Cortef. Is

it

> possible that I could need more than 8 grains of Armour? My FT3 and

FT4

> are over lab ranges and my TSH is < .01.<<

>

> On this much Armrou and with high labs I would suggest getting RT3

tested. This is where I was going a year ago and up and down wiht

thyroid or HC did not seem to be makign much difference and though I

had alot of resolution o bad hypo symptoms many still remained. What

happens is RT3 is bound to the same receptors that are needed for T3

to enter the cells. and the only way to clear out RT3 is ot stop

taking ANY T4 containing meds then use supressive doses of T3 only.

but an RT3 lab will tell you for certain if this is the problem.

>

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>

> Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

>

[Guest guest]

https://orders.directlabs.com/dl-locator/order_tests.aspx

This place tests RT3 and Aldosterone for anyone that is looking.

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[Guest guest]

Regarding the GF diet. I know 2 months sounds like a long time, but for many

people it

takes a lot longer than that to resolve symptoms. Also it's extremely difficult

to totally

remove gluten unless you completely cut out any processed foods and are cooking

totally

from scratch. There are that many hidden sources of gluten. There's a lot of

controversy

regarding the testing for Celiac. There's some good info at the Celiac.com

website on

different types of testing that are more reliable. My daughter was tested for

Celiac when

she was first diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes and serum antibody testing came

back

negative. Two years later her symptoms became more pronounced and with further

investigation we found out she is not only actually positive, she's probably had

this since

she was a toddler. We've been able to resolve her thyroid symptoms and she no

longer

requires meds. In fact it resolved so quickly that while taking Armour she

became hyper

quite quickly, just within a few weeks time. There some good info on Celiac.com

regarding Hashi's and Celiac also, might be worth investigating.

Linn

> >

> > >>I'm at 8 grains of Armour per day already. I still have all of my

> same

> > hypo symptoms...plus these two new ones since starting Cortef. Is

> it

> > possible that I could need more than 8 grains of Armour? My FT3 and

> FT4

> > are over lab ranges and my TSH is < .01.<<

> >

> > On this much Armrou and with high labs I would suggest getting RT3

> tested. This is where I was going a year ago and up and down wiht

> thyroid or HC did not seem to be makign much difference and though I

> had alot of resolution o bad hypo symptoms many still remained. What

> happens is RT3 is bound to the same receptors that are needed for T3

> to enter the cells. and the only way to clear out RT3 is ot stop

> taking ANY T4 containing meds then use supressive doses of T3 only.

> but an RT3 lab will tell you for certain if this is the problem.

> >

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> >

> > Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

> >

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