Re: Who's Been Hyper......?

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

I have been hyper in the past although not through armour usage. I started off

with thyroiditis which caused me to be hyper. In the early stages the only

symptom that I had was losing weight despite eating normally. This went on for

months and blood tests did not show anything until about 6 months later.

I then had EXTREMELY swollen ankles, nausea, diarrea, vertigo, palpitations and

still continued to lose weight. I am 5 ft 2 ins and, at my lowest, weighed 96

pounds.

I then stablized for a while before turning hypo.

Lynda (in the UK)

Who's Been Hyper......?

As I get closer to my anticipated " optimal dose, " I start to wonder what it

actually

feels like to be " hyper. "

[Guest guest]

Going hyper from too much med is sneaky... taking into consideration that

I was low grade hyper for about 20 years and then went into thyroid

storm.. I know what it feels like.. Even so, both times that I tried to

go from 2 1/2 grain to 3 grain of generic, I went mildly hyper...

The first time my heart rate was a bit higher than I'd liked.. upper 70s

to low 80s. I considered it an adjustment period.. I'd upped the dose

only a few days before and decided to tough my way through it... I was

about 4 weeks into the 3 grain dose when I was outside holding a ladder

for my dad. Just holding it so that it wouldn't start tipping on the

uneven ground. We were on the sunny side of the garage, no breeze. I was

getting very warm, I'm not one for heat... and thought I was just being a

softy.. reacting to the sun and lack of air movement... I was out there

maybe half an hour...

I came back in here and sat down.. I was sweating like crazy.. my heart

rate shot up into the upper 90s... I had been fine doing MY normal

activities.. but that over heating episode triggered it.... It took

several hours for my heart rate to go down... I immediately cut my doses

back... with a lot of juggling I got myself stable and holding well on 2

1/2 grain again about a month later...

I held that way for about a month.. then tried again. I started with

alternating days.. I did 2 1/2 grain one day.. 3 the next.. I did that

for a week (still multi-dosing... 1/2 grain doses) I then went to 3 grain

every day... I made it a couple of weeks then my pulse rate shot up

again... Normally I'm quite happy at around 72 for resting rate so when

it was going up over 80 then toward 90.. that's my warning sign.

Along with the gradual movement toward hyper.. the paranoia sets in....

and the doubt... Even though I know what to watch for... it can sneak up

on you.. and if you do cross that line and the T4 builds up too high...

it can take weeks to get it out of your system.. Not fun... that is why I

err toward caution and slow increases.

I know I'm very sensitive to adjustments.. and that most others aren't..

but even so.. if you increase too quickly and the T4 builds up too high..

it's not fun having to deal with the roller coast and mess involved with

dropping dose enough to purge the T4 while still keeping the intake of T3

up enough to not go vegetable.

I've just made it a habit... several times I day I do a spot check of my

resting heart rate.. watching to make sure that it's staying pretty close

to 72.. and if I'm up and about and being phyisical.. it's normal for the

heart rate to go up to meet the demands of the body... but it should go

back down to resting rate in a fairly short period of time... I'm not

sure of the 'official' period of time.. I'm happy if it's normal again

after about 10 or 15 minutes.

A personal comment.. Having been low grade hyper from puberty until my

30s.. Having gone through thryoid storm for a year... Having had RAI and

going 6 months after that being monitored as I bottomed out hypo.. then

struggling with meds and actually being low grade hypo for another

decade.. then bottoming out again when I had no meds at all for three

years....

As awful as hypo feels... with all the pain and the fatigue and the

misery.... given a choice between hyper and hypo... I'll take hypo...

When you're hyper everything speeds up.. if you don't eat enough

(depending on how hyper you are) your body eats itself to stay alive. You

can't rest.. your brain is in over drive all the time. You fixate on

things and turn them into volcanos when they are only little ant hills.

You can die sitting it a chair... heart attack.... and there is still

the pain.

Hypo hell sucks... but as miserable as you feel.. you're not in a

constant panic.. your body, though gaining weight is not good either, is

not eating itself to get the nutrients that it can't get through what you

are eating. Insomnia when hyper is spending the night fixated on all the

horrors you percieve in life.. insomnia when hypo is nightmares, for me

flashbacks to something that happened a long time ago..... flashbacks, to

me.. are not as scarry as perceiving everything in my current life is a

horror.

Before I knew what was wrong with me... I had been out bumming one day..

I was in my 20's.. I had filled my car with gas and headed to the park to

write... I took a dirt back road to get there, a lovely drive that I'd

done a hundred times. There was a branch on the road. I saw it... it

wasn't big.. I just drove over it.. I got to the park and spent several

relaxing hours and then headed home... I pulled into the drive way, a

pretty signifant slant uphill... and went inside... My dad came in and

asked if I'd just gotten gas.. I said I had, that morning... He had

smelled gas when he walked by the car.. it was a hot day and aften, after

filling a tank you'll smell gas by a car... but when I said it had been

in the morning.. we both went out to look.. I had gas running out from

under the car... the branch that I had driven over and punched a hole in

the tank.

20 gallon tank... Dad grabbed a hose and cans and started siphoning it

out.. we couldn't let it just run down the street.... He got less that

five gallons.. all the rest had run out.... probably much if it at the

park...

So.. how does a normal person react? I have no idea.. I went inside and

sat in a chair and started to ball.. not a sniffly cry.. not a few tears

and a runny nose.. I balled like a baby.. I felt like a total idiot... I

just sat and balled. My dad and a neighbor fixed the tank.. all was

well.. I was only out the gas that had leaked out and a case of beer for

the neighbor.... but for days I was crying over that stupid hole. Another

time I had an arguement with my boyfriend.. then had an arguement with my

dad.. left here (dad's house) to go to my house and in my stupid rage..

was speeding... ran a stop sign on a road that I'd driven a thousand

times... and hit a car.. no one was hurt.. my car was totaled....

As the hyper stated increases everything is so 'profound' that - I can't

think of the words... you do things, react, whatever before you even

think about what you have done.... everything is speeded up but your

common sense.... You can do a 'stupid' and seriously hurt yourself or

someone else before you even know what is going on....

Need to leave that place in my mind now... I have too many dark things

hidden in there.. I hide all my hypo horrors there too.. I have a bunch

of those too... but they run in slow motion.....

Topper () *who is so happy now.. on the correct meds, at the right

dose.... *

On Sat, 01 May 2004 06:08:01 -0000 " whitecap89 "

writes:

> As I get closer to my anticipated " optimal dose, " I start to wonder

> what it actually

> feels like to be " hyper. " I know sometimes it's difficult to

> distinguish if certain

> symptoms are hyper or hypo, but there must be some that are, in most

> cases,

> indicative of being hyper. Would anyone like to share their " hyper "

> experience

> symptoms?

>

> And since there are several people here now who are self medicating

> and don't have

> access to frequent labs, if any, it might be helpful to know what it

> actually feels like

> to be getting too much Armour.

>

> Any takers?

>

> Thanks!

> Janet

[Guest guest]

Hi (Topper)

What a scary experience. You must be sooooo sensitive to the Armour,

but now you know your body, you will never have to go there

again...... I totally agree, hyper is far worse than hypo (in my

opinion of course) and difficult to deal with. Although i was only on

T3 alone for a short period of time, my body was becoming more and

more hyper and going back onto Armour with a 2 grain dose was too

much, and sent me straight to A and E. The feeling of sitting in the

bath with your heart pounding out of your chest, and that awful

anxious, scary feeling inside. Mine resulted in a breakdown, with my

body violently shaking and temps/bp all over the place. I thought i

was going to die and like you would never want to go through that

again. 10 days on, with the Armour settling in i feel a new woman,

went for a walk today, feel as if i am starting to heal.

You say about making a mountain out of a molehill, i was exactly the

same, mine was breaking a mercury thermometer in my house and going

so hysterical my wonderful lady cleaner had to take over. I literally

went to pieces and through out everything the mercury came into

contact with including my telephone !!! Fortunately hubby understood,

but now i look back and see that incident as the final straw that

tipped me over the edge, resulting in my trip to hospital in the

middle of the night.

Now i am calm, and put it down to experience. Knowing you are not

alone during those times are very comforting.

Keep smiling

Sheila (new)

> Going hyper from too much med is sneaky... taking into

consideration that

> I was low grade hyper for about 20 years and then went into thyroid

> storm.. I know what it feels like.. Even so, both times that I

tried to

> go from 2 1/2 grain to 3 grain of generic, I went mildly hyper...

>

> The first time my heart rate was a bit higher than I'd liked..

upper 70s

> to low 80s. I considered it an adjustment period.. I'd upped the

dose

> only a few days before and decided to tough my way through it... I

was

> about 4 weeks into the 3 grain dose when I was outside holding a

ladder

> for my dad. Just holding it so that it wouldn't start tipping on the

> uneven ground. We were on the sunny side of the garage, no breeze.

I was

> getting very warm, I'm not one for heat... and thought I was just

being a

> softy.. reacting to the sun and lack of air movement... I was out

there

> maybe half an hour...

>

> I came back in here and sat down.. I was sweating like crazy.. my

heart

> rate shot up into the upper 90s... I had been fine doing MY normal

> activities.. but that over heating episode triggered it.... It took

> several hours for my heart rate to go down... I immediately cut my

doses

> back... with a lot of juggling I got myself stable and holding well

on 2

> 1/2 grain again about a month later...

>

> I held that way for about a month.. then tried again. I started with

> alternating days.. I did 2 1/2 grain one day.. 3 the next.. I did

that

> for a week (still multi-dosing... 1/2 grain doses) I then went to 3

grain

> every day... I made it a couple of weeks then my pulse rate shot up

> again... Normally I'm quite happy at around 72 for resting rate so

when

> it was going up over 80 then toward 90.. that's my warning sign.

>

> Along with the gradual movement toward hyper.. the paranoia sets

in....

> and the doubt... Even though I know what to watch for... it can

sneak up

> on you.. and if you do cross that line and the T4 builds up too

high...

> it can take weeks to get it out of your system.. Not fun... that is

why I

> err toward caution and slow increases.

>

> I know I'm very sensitive to adjustments.. and that most others

aren't..

> but even so.. if you increase too quickly and the T4 builds up too

high..

> it's not fun having to deal with the roller coast and mess involved

with

> dropping dose enough to purge the T4 while still keeping the intake

of T3

> up enough to not go vegetable.

>

> I've just made it a habit... several times I day I do a spot check

of my

> resting heart rate.. watching to make sure that it's staying pretty

close

> to 72.. and if I'm up and about and being phyisical.. it's normal

for the

> heart rate to go up to meet the demands of the body... but it

should go

> back down to resting rate in a fairly short period of time... I'm

not

> sure of the 'official' period of time.. I'm happy if it's normal

again

> after about 10 or 15 minutes.

>

> A personal comment.. Having been low grade hyper from puberty until

my

> 30s.. Having gone through thryoid storm for a year... Having had

RAI and

> going 6 months after that being monitored as I bottomed out hypo..

then

> struggling with meds and actually being low grade hypo for another

> decade.. then bottoming out again when I had no meds at all for

three

> years....

>

> As awful as hypo feels... with all the pain and the fatigue and the

> misery.... given a choice between hyper and hypo... I'll take

hypo...

>

> When you're hyper everything speeds up.. if you don't eat enough

> (depending on how hyper you are) your body eats itself to stay

alive. You

> can't rest.. your brain is in over drive all the time. You fixate on

> things and turn them into volcanos when they are only little ant

hills.

> You can die sitting it a chair... heart attack.... and there is

still

> the pain.

>

> Hypo hell sucks... but as miserable as you feel.. you're not in a

> constant panic.. your body, though gaining weight is not good

either, is

> not eating itself to get the nutrients that it can't get through

what you

> are eating. Insomnia when hyper is spending the night fixated on

all the

> horrors you percieve in life.. insomnia when hypo is nightmares,

for me

> flashbacks to something that happened a long time ago.....

flashbacks, to

> me.. are not as scarry as perceiving everything in my current life

is a

> horror.

>

> Before I knew what was wrong with me... I had been out bumming one

day..

> I was in my 20's.. I had filled my car with gas and headed to the

park to

> write... I took a dirt back road to get there, a lovely drive that

I'd

> done a hundred times. There was a branch on the road. I saw it... it

> wasn't big.. I just drove over it.. I got to the park and spent

several

> relaxing hours and then headed home... I pulled into the drive way,

a

> pretty signifant slant uphill... and went inside... My dad came in

and

> asked if I'd just gotten gas.. I said I had, that morning... He had

> smelled gas when he walked by the car.. it was a hot day and aften,

after

> filling a tank you'll smell gas by a car... but when I said it had

been

> in the morning.. we both went out to look.. I had gas running out

from

> under the car... the branch that I had driven over and punched a

hole in

> the tank.

>

> 20 gallon tank... Dad grabbed a hose and cans and started siphoning

it

> out.. we couldn't let it just run down the street.... He got less

that

> five gallons.. all the rest had run out.... probably much if it at

the

> park...

>

> So.. how does a normal person react? I have no idea.. I went inside

and

> sat in a chair and started to ball.. not a sniffly cry.. not a few

tears

> and a runny nose.. I balled like a baby.. I felt like a total

idiot... I

> just sat and balled. My dad and a neighbor fixed the tank.. all was

> well.. I was only out the gas that had leaked out and a case of

beer for

> the neighbor.... but for days I was crying over that stupid hole.

Another

> time I had an arguement with my boyfriend.. then had an arguement

with my

> dad.. left here (dad's house) to go to my house and in my stupid

rage..

> was speeding... ran a stop sign on a road that I'd driven a thousand

> times... and hit a car.. no one was hurt.. my car was totaled....

>

> As the hyper stated increases everything is so 'profound' that - I

can't

> think of the words... you do things, react, whatever before you even

> think about what you have done.... everything is speeded up but your

> common sense.... You can do a 'stupid' and seriously hurt yourself

or

> someone else before you even know what is going on....

>

> Need to leave that place in my mind now... I have too many dark

things

> hidden in there.. I hide all my hypo horrors there too.. I have a

bunch

> of those too... but they run in slow motion.....

>

> Topper () *who is so happy now.. on the correct meds, at the

right

> dose.... *

>

> On Sat, 01 May 2004 06:08:01 -0000 " whitecap89 " <ggmts@c...>

> writes:

> > As I get closer to my anticipated " optimal dose, " I start to

wonder

> > what it actually

> > feels like to be " hyper. " I know sometimes it's difficult to

> > distinguish if certain

> > symptoms are hyper or hypo, but there must be some that are, in

most

> > cases,

> > indicative of being hyper. Would anyone like to share

their " hyper "

> > experience

> > symptoms?

> >

> > And since there are several people here now who are self

medicating

> > and don't have

> > access to frequent labs, if any, it might be helpful to know what

it

> > actually feels like

> > to be getting too much Armour.

> >

> > Any takers?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Janet

[Guest guest]

I had to chuckle about your broken thermometer.. I can see me.. running

around hysterical a few times over things that are just not that horrible

.... yes, mercury is a concern and you have to deal with it correctly and

promptly and all that.. but its' not something to freak over.. like a

busted faucet spraying all over... although, now that I've said that,

that happened to me why low grade hypo.... hot water faucet broke and I

got burned.. then had to run out side to shut of the main water valve and

the hole that I had to reach down into was filled with a huge bee hive..

I'm terrified of bees, but not allergic.... I can hear the water shooting

all over inside.. my face and torso are burned I have bees swarming all

around me... I should be running, right? No, I reached down into the hole

and turned off the water. Then went back into the house and called a

neighbor... I didn't have any tools to take the faucet apart to replace

it...

He came over with his grown daughter and they took one look at me and

freaked... I had ice packs put on me and people checking me for bee

stings.. another neighbor is over spraying bee and wasp killer on the

hive.. everyone is just going nuts... and I'm pretty much just sitting

there... can we fix my faucet.. I need to be able to flush the toilet!

heehehehhe

Topper () *who's starting to chuckle at the past for a change*

On Sat, 01 May 2004 17:07:56 -0000 " orlando1088 "

writes:

> Hi (Topper)

>

> What a scary experience. You must be sooooo sensitive to the

> Armour,

> but now you know your body, you will never have to go there

> again...... I totally agree, hyper is far worse than hypo (in my

> opinion of course) and difficult to deal with. Although i was only

> on

> T3 alone for a short period of time, my body was becoming more and

> more hyper and going back onto Armour with a 2 grain dose was too

> much, and sent me straight to A and E. The feeling of sitting in the

> bath with your heart pounding out of your chest, and that awful

> anxious, scary feeling inside. Mine resulted in a breakdown, with my

> body violently shaking and temps/bp all over the place. I thought i

> was going to die and like you would never want to go through that

> again. 10 days on, with the Armour settling in i feel a new woman,

> went for a walk today, feel as if i am starting to heal.

> You say about making a mountain out of a molehill, i was exactly the

> same, mine was breaking a mercury thermometer in my house and going

> so hysterical my wonderful lady cleaner had to take over. I

> literally

> went to pieces and through out everything the mercury came into

> contact with including my telephone !!! Fortunately hubby

> understood,

> but now i look back and see that incident as the final straw that

> tipped me over the edge, resulting in my trip to hospital in the

> middle of the night.

> Now i am calm, and put it down to experience. Knowing you are not

> alone during those times are very comforting.

> Keep smiling

> Sheila (new)

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

So, What you are saying is that going hyper or living hyper is

something like taking Speed, only with different and much more sever

consequences. I.E. the body literally burning itself up trying to

satisfy its abnormal energy needs???

If this is a correct assumption/understanding, my thoughts and

question is this, does the body, when in sever hyper mode, eat up

the fat reserves first and then the muscles? Or does it just burn up

what ever breaks down the fastest? Inclucing the brain muscle? ...If

this is so, then Hyper is just down right SCAREY!... I like having

my brain functioning, thank you very much... I am looking forward to

better grades next semester without the brain fog of hypo that I

seem to have been experiencing and really didn't know it until I

began my retraining...but I sure don't want to loose what brain

cells I have left to being hyper...no way!!!!

Gossimer

(Thinking that I may need to find the money for a FT3, FT4 and

antibodies test soon!!!)

<<snip>>

>

> A personal comment.. Having been low grade hyper from puberty

until my

> 30s.. Having gone through thryoid storm for a year... Having had

RAI and

> going 6 months after that being monitored as I bottomed out hypo..

then

> struggling with meds and actually being low grade hypo for another

> decade.. then bottoming out again when I had no meds at all for

three

> years....

>

> As awful as hypo feels... with all the pain and the fatigue and the

> misery.... given a choice between hyper and hypo... I'll take

hypo...

<<snip>>

[Guest guest]

Here are the hyperthyroid symptoms from about.com. (Note - I felt

hyper on .112 Levoxyl. Just overall hyper feeling and mind racing all

the time.)

If you're hyperthyroid, you may find:

You're rapidly losing weight, or you are eating more and not gaining

weight

You're having a hard time falling asleep or staying asleep, or you

have insomnia

You're suffering from anxiety, irritability, nervousness, or even

panic attacks

You're having palpitations, or your pulse and heartbeat are fast

You're sweating more than usual, feeling hot when others are not

You have tremors in your hands

You're suffering from diarrhea

You feel tired

Your skin is dry, or you may even have a thickening of the skin on

the shin area of your legs

Your periods are stopped, or very light, or infrequent

You're having muscle weakness, especially in the upper arms and

thighs

You're having eye problems, such as double vision, scratchy eyes, or

you notice that your eyes are bulging or more whites are showing than

usual

You're having trouble getting pregnant

Your hair has become fine and brittle

You're having a hard time concentrating, your attention span is short

Your behavior is erratic

[Guest guest]

Hi again ,

You are starting to chuckle again - how fantastic . Today I actually

sang !!! My teenage son immediately told me to shut up but i was

thrilled that i felt like singing...... All these years i thought

being neurotic was part of my make-up, my character, when actually

its not. Its a side effect of being hyper..... Dont you think by far

the most frightening thing is the palpitations. You feel as if your

heart is going to suddenly stop. Incidently when i was being examined

at the hospital, by a young doctor barely older than my son, he asked

me what i took for my thyroid and i showed him the Armour, he had

never heard of it and asked me if it was some sort of herbal

concoction! I wonder if hypothyroidism is the only (or one of the

few) condition that they treat with just one drug. It is such a

complex condition with individual symptoms and yet everyone is

prescribed the same treatment. Recipe for disaster. I know a few

people who do well on T4, but it simply isn't for everyone.

Thanks for your humourous (is that spelt right?) stories,

Sheila (new)

> I had to chuckle about your broken thermometer.. I can see me..

running

> around hysterical a few times over things that are just not that

horrible

> ... yes, mercury is a concern and you have to deal with it

correctly and

> promptly and all that.. but its' not something to freak over.. like

a

> busted faucet spraying all over... although, now that I've said

that,

> that happened to me why low grade hypo.... hot water faucet broke

and I

> got burned.. then had to run out side to shut of the main water

valve and

> the hole that I had to reach down into was filled with a huge bee

hive..

> I'm terrified of bees, but not allergic.... I can hear the water

shooting

> all over inside.. my face and torso are burned I have bees swarming

all

> around me... I should be running, right? No, I reached down into

the hole

> and turned off the water. Then went back into the house and called a

> neighbor... I didn't have any tools to take the faucet apart to

replace

> it...

>

> He came over with his grown daughter and they took one look at me

and

> freaked... I had ice packs put on me and people checking me for bee

> stings.. another neighbor is over spraying bee and wasp killer on

the

> hive.. everyone is just going nuts... and I'm pretty much just

sitting

> there... can we fix my faucet.. I need to be able to flush the

toilet!

> heehehehhe

>

> Topper () *who's starting to chuckle at the past for a change*

>

> On Sat, 01 May 2004 17:07:56 -0000 " orlando1088 " <orlando1088@y...>

> writes:

> > Hi (Topper)

> >

> > What a scary experience. You must be sooooo sensitive to the

> > Armour,

> > but now you know your body, you will never have to go there

> > again...... I totally agree, hyper is far worse than hypo (in my

> > opinion of course) and difficult to deal with. Although i was

only

> > on

> > T3 alone for a short period of time, my body was becoming more

and

> > more hyper and going back onto Armour with a 2 grain dose was too

> > much, and sent me straight to A and E. The feeling of sitting in

the

> > bath with your heart pounding out of your chest, and that awful

> > anxious, scary feeling inside. Mine resulted in a breakdown, with

my

> > body violently shaking and temps/bp all over the place. I thought

i

> > was going to die and like you would never want to go through that

> > again. 10 days on, with the Armour settling in i feel a new

woman,

> > went for a walk today, feel as if i am starting to heal.

> > You say about making a mountain out of a molehill, i was exactly

the

> > same, mine was breaking a mercury thermometer in my house and

going

> > so hysterical my wonderful lady cleaner had to take over. I

> > literally

> > went to pieces and through out everything the mercury came into

> > contact with including my telephone !!! Fortunately hubby

> > understood,

> > but now i look back and see that incident as the final straw that

> > tipped me over the edge, resulting in my trip to hospital in the

> > middle of the night.

> > Now i am calm, and put it down to experience. Knowing you are not

> > alone during those times are very comforting.

> > Keep smiling

> > Sheila (new)

[Guest guest]

I've never been on speed.. but from what I've heard thyroid storm may be

worse... IMHO

First it eats all the fat.. I went down to rock hard, I was into lifting

at the time so had a lot of muscle.. after the fat was gone, the muscles

were next.. that was when the pain started.. it hurt... I think part of

that was muscle atrophy and chemical imbalance, I stopped working out,

cold turkey (I had been working out 4 hours a day seven days a week for

five years) and the muscles go into atrophy when activity is reduced like

that..

I was lucky.. I was used to listening to my body so I did what it told

me.. I increased my food intake, then flat out calorie intake to keep

up... I still drank a lot of soda, for the calories and the caffeine but

added water to that. I didn't know what was going on, the doc had said I

was fine.. and all I knew was that I was losing weight and if I didn't

eat I got the headaches.

The last couple of months I pretty much gave up sleeping.. I had to stay

up to eat...

I'd been told by my endo, that for many folks that are in storm for a

long period of time, if they are not getting in enough nutrition AND

calories that the body will start breaking down the organs to get what it

needs to survive.. Many die from malnutrition and starvation, if they

don't go by heart attack first.

She had told me from my labs that I was in good shape and very lucky.....

Not having seen the results, and I wouldn't have understood them at the

time anyway, I have no idea....

I do know that I developed very little muscle during the whole time I was

on the synthetics... be that from underdose or that my system wasn't

responding to it, I don't know.. but it was about 14 months after

starting on Naturals that I noticed biceps development.. I'd not been

doing any resistance work at that point.. only stretching and

isometrics... so the growth had to be a result of being on the naturals,

IMHO.

One of the tv channels ran a nation wide IQ thing sometime last fall.. I

took it.. and kept record of my score.. a while after that I found a site

online to check IQ for free... several of us over at TTSG took that test

with the intention of retesting after 6 months to see what happens...

That same station did another national IQ test earlier this spring.. I

took that one and scored 4 points higher this time... My weak spot the

first time was short term memory.... and the area where I picked up the

points the second time was short term memory.. again, I attribute that to

the naturals.... IMHO.

Going into hyper storm would be like going backwards down a really steep

hill... you keep going faster and faster and faster and you have no idea

how much farther it is, how much faster you'll go or if you slow down on

the flats or hit a tree.... it's with you every second, this sense of

mortality.. the NEED to eat... the NEED for water... it's not just a 'I'm

hungry, what's to eat'.. it's stuffing stuff in your face... I did a lot

of buffets, all you can eat.. I hit at least one of those a day....

To give you an idea.. I was a money courier... I left base on my first

run in the morning.. it was thirty minutes to my first stop... while

driving the truck in morning traffic I ate one case (24) full size

snicker bars (craved the nuts.. that had more nuts than any thing else we

carried) and a six pack of pop.. that was to tide me over between the

breakfast that I'd already eaten and stopping at Mcs in another

hour. I still shake my head in disbelief thinking back to that... that's

nearly one candy bar a minute and still slinging down the pop.. all while

driving in traffic. Keeping to a schedule.. every day.... and still lost

weight.

It was scary.... at night I'd lay in bed and feel my heart pound.... 160

beats at rest... soaring way above that if I was walking around... I can

still 'feel' that.. how I thought that I'd explode.... and hungry..

always hungry.. never going away.. and how sick I got if I tried to wait

a little longer to eat....

Topper ()

On Sat, 01 May 2004 19:11:26 -0000 " gossimerwingz "

writes:

> Hi everyone,

> So, What you are saying is that going hyper or living hyper is

> something like taking Speed, only with different and much more sever

> consequences. I.E. the body literally burning itself up trying to

> satisfy its abnormal energy needs???

> If this is a correct assumption/understanding, my thoughts and

> question is this, does the body, when in sever hyper mode, eat up

> the fat reserves first and then the muscles? Or does it just burn up

> what ever breaks down the fastest? Inclucing the brain muscle? ...If

> this is so, then Hyper is just down right SCAREY!... I like having

> my brain functioning, thank you very much... I am looking forward to

> better grades next semester without the brain fog of hypo that I

> seem to have been experiencing and really didn't know it until I

> began my retraining...but I sure don't want to loose what brain

> cells I have left to being hyper...no way!!!!

>

> Gossimer

> (Thinking that I may need to find the money for a FT3, FT4 and

> antibodies test soon!!!)

[Guest guest]

oh... to dream that someday folks with get better care than we did....

sigh....

For me.. I didn't palps.. just a heart that steadily beat harder and

faster.. it was a pounding in my chest and ears...

Isn't great when 'you' starts creeping back.. I caught myself singing

along with commercial jingles.. and when I finally got to watch the

Kingdom hospital episode that I taped Thursday night I actually sang

along with the stupid baseball song..

It's neat to be 'there' and not 'away'.. I think many of you may know

what I mean by that....

As far as humor... for all the horror that we have faced, are facing and

will face.. we need to laugh once in a while...

Topper ()

On Sat, 01 May 2004 19:39:27 -0000 " orlando1088 "

writes:

> Hi again ,

>

> You are starting to chuckle again - how fantastic . Today I actually

> sang !!! My teenage son immediately told me to shut up but i was

> thrilled that i felt like singing...... All these years i thought

> being neurotic was part of my make-up, my character, when actually

> its not. Its a side effect of being hyper..... Dont you think by far

> the most frightening thing is the palpitations. You feel as if your

> heart is going to suddenly stop. Incidently when i was being

> examined

> at the hospital, by a young doctor barely older than my son, he

> asked

> me what i took for my thyroid and i showed him the Armour, he had

> never heard of it and asked me if it was some sort of herbal

> concoction! I wonder if hypothyroidism is the only (or one of the

> few) condition that they treat with just one drug. It is such a

> complex condition with individual symptoms and yet everyone is

> prescribed the same treatment. Recipe for disaster. I know a few

> people who do well on T4, but it simply isn't for everyone.

> Thanks for your humourous (is that spelt right?) stories,

>

> Sheila (new)