Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 My son who just turned 4, rides the little yellow school bus with seatbelts. Now I have heard of older siblings riding on the same bus as their disabled brother/sister if room permits, but I can't believe they would actually make a three yr old get on a bus with those BIG Kids! Is there an aid on the bus? I would definitely say no way to this one! ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Busing Question Author: Listen-Up Date: 02/27/2001 1:33 PM Have a question for all of you. My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! Debbie 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 I fought the school district on this one. They said the law that requires car seats for kids under 4 years and 40 pounds in California doesn't apply to school districts. When I asked them to write me a letter assuming full responsibility for any possible injury to my small children due to failure to provide restraints and car seats, they backed down and then decided that it was required. They had car seats and special belts to attach them. The bus driver just didn't want to do it because it was a hassle to check out the car seats and install them every morning and afternoon (they used different buses for the pick up and drop off). Too bad. It's my kid and my kid's safety, not the bus driver's convenience, that concerns me. The bus supervisor hates me, but I don't care. I used to have five different special ed buses coming to my house every day. They just had to get used to me, because I wasn't going to go away or be quiet. Judith Longman Have a question for all of you. My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! Debbie 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 In our state, it is mandatory and the school system provides the seats. debtar85@... wrote: > > Have a question for all of you. > My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August > will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two > older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law > that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. > would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! > > Debbie > 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Debbie Triston will be turning 3 in July, so we'll be meeting with the school district soon!! I will not allow my " baby " to ride the " big yellow school bus " regardless of the seatbelt/carseat issue. There are so many other safety issues. I don't know what type of loss your little one has, but communication could be a big factor, if his brothers happened not to ride the bus from time to time! I suppose your case is a little different in that he would be there with his 2 older brothers, but I don't think i would even want my 9 year old step son to have to be responsible for his 3 year old brother either! Is there going to be an adult there to help him on and off the bus, to make sure he's at the right place and to get to his class room? They can't really tell you that your 3 year old has to grow up and ride the bus can they? I don't mean to sound so angry, but a 3 year old isn't old enough to ride the " big yellow school bus " - he is still a baby! Deanna - mom of Triston 2.5 mod-sev. > Have a question for all of you. > My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August > will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two > older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law > that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. > would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! > > Debbie > 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 I live in the state of Kentucky, I was also told my son had to ride the bus that pick up around me, and then go to school and wait until a pre-school bus to pick him up and take him to another school, because of district has no pre-school. For the first 2 years I drove him. They told me that he was not physically handicapped so he did not qualify to hide one. And the State backed them up, but, I told the state about all the little buses not having aids on them. So, they finally agreed to sent just the pre-school but to pick him up. Which was still a big bus but only 4 kids pre-school kids was on it and it had a extra aid. Now my son is in k-garden he rides a big bus but his signing aide comes to my home and goes to school with him. bonnie Busing Question > Have a question for all of you. > My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August > will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " > 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Debbie, No Way! Little probably can hardly get on a big bus. I dont know if there is any laws but I dont think it is safe. They can use a minivan to pick up your boys. I live on a state road that is very busy and our bus driver refuses to stop in front of our house so they send a minivan to pick them up, right in my driveway. Good luck, BE A SQUEAKY WHEEL!! Ruth Busing Question > Have a question for all of you. > My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August > will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two > older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law > that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. > would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! > > Debbie > 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 At 07:33 PM 2/27/01 +0000, you wrote: >Have a question for all of you. >My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August >will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two >older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law >that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. > would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! There's no law like that around here. Buses are buses. No car seats, no seat belts. Teddy's three and a half. We drive him. There's one other kid who's driven...all the rest actually ride the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 At 04:50 PM 2/27/01 -0500, you wrote: >First check to see if you have a similiar law where you live. If you are >still not comfortable, you can transport him yourself and the district >will have to pay you. Sometimes they prefer that, as it gets them out of >the hassle. Of course, that depends on if it is convenient for you as well. Another thing you can do, especially if it's not too much of a hassle, is to transport him yourself, don't charge them, but let them KNOW that you are saving them the money. I've used the transportation issue several times to get things out of the school. I usually phrase it as, " Listen, I don't ask for more than I need. Heck, we don't make bones about getting Teddy to and from school, we do x, y, and z. Now we're asking you to do A. " They know this is my signal...where if they don't give me A, and I have to fight, I'm going to ask for transportation, x, y, z, and A. It's worked very well for us, but then every district is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Debbie, In our state there is a definite law that all children must be in car seats until they are 4 years of age or 40 punds. ALL means the busses too. There are specially designed car seats or built-in car seats on busses and vans that serve this population. First check to see if you have a similiar law where you live. If you are still not comfortable, you can transport him yourself and the district will have to pay you. Sometimes they prefer that, as it gets them out of the hassle. Of course, that depends on if it is convenient for you as well. I pushed for a signing aide on the bus when my son was a preschooler. It's unfortunate that we have to " threaten " all the time, but as another writer said, let them know the kind of lawsuit they will face if there is an accident. Try your best to do this in a work-friendly fashion. Believe me, I know how tired I am of fighting for everything. But if you take the right approach, making suggestions as opposed to demands, mentioning other people who have supported the idea (teacher, professional, social worker, whomever), you will often get what you need without the battle, and without setting the trend of us " Moms from Hell " as I know they have called me in past years! Good Luck! Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Depends on the bus. My Hayley has been riding the bus since she was two years old. There have been a few minor incidents, but for the most part, she enjoys it. There is no way I can go 30 minutes to another city and then backtrack another hour to work. For special needs kids, there is supposed to be an adult to supervise the getting off and on of the bus. Is there going to be an adult there to help him on and off >the bus, to make sure he's at the right place and to get to his class >room? They can't really tell you that your 3 year old has to grow up >and ride the bus can they? > >I don't mean to sound so angry, but a 3 year old isn't old enough to >ride the " big yellow school bus " - he is still a baby! > >> > Debbie > > 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 >know if there is any laws but I dont think it is safe. They can use a >minivan to pick up your boys. I live on a state road that is very busy and >our bus driver refuses to stop in front of our house so they send a minivan I am kind of confused. First of all, what is unsafe about the bus? Second of all, you are not always going to get a minivan (and the drivers of the minivan are contracted for by the state or the school district, SAME AS your regular school bus drivers. If you can make the case for an aide on the bus, even better. We have one. Can somebody please clarify what is unsafe about riding the bus to school and have that backed up with statistics? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 It is so difficult to put a three-year-old on the bus. I never will forget the first time my little one, only 18 months in size, got on that bus. The school did provide car seats and belts for the small ones and there was an aide on the bus to make sure the kids were all getting on and off at the correct schools and stops. I would make sure you have those things in place. Barb ----- Original It is Message ----- From: cadi@... To: Listen-Up Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Busing Question Debbie Triston will be turning 3 in July, so we'll be meeting with the school district soon!! I will not allow my " baby " to ride the " big yellow school bus " regardless of the seatbelt/carseat issue. There are so many other safety issues. I don't know what type of loss your little one has, but communication could be a big factor, if his brothers happened not to ride the bus from time to time! I suppose your case is a little different in that he would be there with his 2 older brothers, but I don't think i would even want my 9 year old step son to have to be responsible for his 3 year old brother either! Is there going to be an adult there to help him on and off the bus, to make sure he's at the right place and to get to his class room? They can't really tell you that your 3 year old has to grow up and ride the bus can they? I don't mean to sound so angry, but a 3 year old isn't old enough to ride the " big yellow school bus " - he is still a baby! Deanna - mom of Triston 2.5 mod-sev. > Have a question for all of you. > My public school told me that my son , who will be 3 in August > will have to ride the " big yellow school bus " along with his two > older brothers to attend the preschool. Is there some type of law > that states " little ones " need to be in car seats at 3 years old. > would not even be able to step up on the first step of the bus!!! > > Debbie > 's mom- (seriously considering keeping him home until he is 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 , I dont mean unsafe on the road with accidents,Unsafe,yes for a 3yr old child " ,without a aide! " First a 3yr old can not even do the steps safely. Stopping and starting Big buses are jerky if a child is not in the seat right, out they will fly! I have seen this with little ones unless you have a big stronger 3yr old. Can a three year old communicate his/her needs to the other children?, will they understand him?It is good to have older brothers with him they can stand up for him. Yes an aide would be good and my only answer for my child that just turned 3yrs old. I always get a minivan and the drivers are hired by the schooldistricts bus co.The drivers are safe or they would not be driving students! We are talking about a little boy who will be just turning 3yrs old!!! With out and aide NO WAY! Not on a big Bus! Just my opinion!! Others may disagree! Ruth, Maybe an overprotecting MOM Re: Busing Question > > > > >know if there is any laws but I dont think it is safe. They can use a > >minivan to pick up your boys. I live on a state road that is very busy and > >our bus driver refuses to stop in front of our house so they send a minivan > > I am kind of confused. First of all, what is unsafe about the bus? Second > of all, you are not always going to get a minivan (and the drivers of the > minivan are contracted for by the state or the school district, SAME AS your > regular school bus drivers. If you can make the case for an aide on the > bus, even better. We have one. Can somebody please clarify what is unsafe > about riding the bus to school and have that backed up with statistics? > > Thanks > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 -Hi Kerri, Thanks for your input, as you know I am just in the beginning process of this whole transistion thing, my PPT meeting is March 19, myself and 's early intervention coordinator , went to the public preschool to observe and talk to the teacher and special ed director, and I was so upset when I let there, just listening to what the special ed director does not know about hearing loss, how she continued to tell me " how well " 2 other HI kids are doing in school with just an FM system and no other services, and than the bus thing, I drove home in tears thinking how am I ever going to be able to get what needs dealing with these people!!!! Even the preschool teacher, which this classroom is just for " at risk " kids, no typical kids, was so uninterested in the kids and seemed like she wanted to be anywhere but in that class teaching, really put a pit in my stomach!!!! How do you parents deal with such a system, I am serious considering keeping him at home and homeschooling!!!! t Thanks for listening, Debbie / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Oh wow, I had to respond, Debbie. does not need to step foot in that school then. What are your other options? We are lucky that there is a wonderful preschool program at the regional day school for the deaf which are required by Texas law. You about drove me to tears when I read all this! How can the early intervention lady even show you that place when there is an obvious problem? What is SHE like??? (Mad at these people for you!!) ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Busing Question Author: Listen-Up Date: 02/27/2001 5:15 PM -Hi Kerri, Thanks for your input, as you know I am just in the beginning process of this whole transistion thing, my PPT meeting is March 19, myself and 's early intervention coordinator , went to the public preschool to observe and talk to the teacher and special ed director, and I was so upset when I let there, just listening to what the special ed director does not know about hearing loss, how she continued to tell me " how well " 2 other HI kids are doing in school with just an FM system and no other services, and than the bus thing, I drove home in tears thinking how am I ever going to be able to get what needs dealing with these people!!!! Even the preschool teacher, which this classroom is just for " at risk " kids, no typical kids, was so uninterested in the kids and seemed like she wanted to be anywhere but in that class teaching, really put a pit in my stomach!!!! How do you parents deal with such a system, I am serious considering keeping him at home and homeschooling!!!! t Thanks for listening, Debbie / All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 > she > continued to tell me " how well " 2 other HI kids are doing in school I would have mentioned how wonderful I thought that was, but that the I in IDEA stood for Individualized. Just because all those kids needed was an FM, doesn't mean that's all your child will need. > really put a pit in my > stomach!!!! How do you parents deal with such a system, I am serious > considering keeping him at home and homeschooling!!!! Some do just that. Others have to move. But some stick it out and fight to make things better for their child - and those that follow in their footsteps. I spent 6 years fighting the system for JD's needs. It was easier to convince the Air Force to relocate our husband due to a lack of services for JD than it was to convince the school district to provide what he needed. I could have continued to stay and fight, but after 6 years, I figured JD needed appropriate services any way I could, even if that meant moving. Is there not Itinerant Teacher of the Deaf in your area? There were a few things I was able to get her to go to bat for JD about - unfortunately it wasn't enough. With nobody serving your child who knows about hearing loss, it's kind of like going to a GP for brain surgery. Hugs, Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 > > you are not always going to get a minivan I just had to share this: My son , age 4.10, is picked up at our driveway for his ride to school. I am also uncomfortable with large busses (did you know the older ones have fewer nuts and bolts in them than the average CAR?) but I figured I wouldn't have a lot of choice. Well, solved the bus vs. minivan problem for us. With his sensory issues (and possible balance issues due to his EVA), he throws up on the big busses! The " bus barn " has strict orders from the bus driver and the two substitutes (all of whom now have firsthand knowledge of what happens with the big bus) that our route must ALWAYS have the minivan. One day when the van was in the shop, one driver offered to take in her own car! (I drove him.) I wish could fight all the school district and insurance battles for us. too :-) Carol- mom to , 4.10, bilateral mod to severe-profound HL, EVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 If you mean the big giant busses, I agree. But the bus that Hayley goes on is a bus for the SPED kids, the short yellow ones run by LAIDLAW. I feel very strongly about this bus business and I will share why. I know I sounded harsh and defensive. Lots of parents here on the list have enough to deal with. (not spending time on their marriage, loss of time with the special needs kids siblings, etc). They don't need to feel add to their issues (guilt feelings) in case they must work or have some other reason why it's impossible to take their child to school and therefore they MUST put them on the bus. My daughter's program is 30 minutes the other way, and I work 30 minutes opposite. I know I am not the only parent in that position. I don't want parents feeling bad that they have no choice but to put their child on the bus. About the minivan thing, I assumed all kids went on the regular " short " yellow buses. When I observed the program in Pennsylvania, where we are moving, I was pleased to see a minivan. However, in Calif, you aren't going to get a minivan just because you ask for it.....I believe the district only has to provide adequate and safe transportation. Ruth wrote: >co.The drivers are safe or they would not be driving students! >We are talking about a little boy who will be just turning 3yrs old!!! With >out and aide NO WAY! Not on a big Bus! >Just my opinion!! Others may disagree! >Ruth, Maybe an overprotecting MOM > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Hey are you moving to PA! What part If you don't mind me asking ? I am from PA north of Pittsburgh. Good area! I may have to deal with the bus issue again. We are trying to send our one boy to a private school for hearing impaired speech/lang and it is approx 40 min away, yikes! I am not sure how he will be transported but I AM REAL NERVOUS ABOUT THE LONG TRIP! One step at a time! You have to do what you have to do! I understand! Our family has been through so very much (as I am sure others have too) It is so hard sometimes but I think I am a much stronger person, You have to be, for your children.I am mad at myself because for almost a whole year I could of been doing more for my son but I was too ignorant and did not know the system. And no one (from the school or the system ) volunteered any information. Good luck to you and your family Ruth Re: Busing Question > If you mean the big giant busses, I agree. But the bus that Hayley goes on > is a bus for the SPED kids, the short yellow ones run by LAIDLAW. > > I feel very strongly about this bus business and I will share why. I know I > sounded harsh and defensive. Lots of parents here on the list have enough to > deal with. (not spending time on their marriage, loss of time with the > special needs kids siblings, etc). They don't need to feel add to their > issues (guilt feelings) in case they must work or have some other reason why > it's impossible to take their child to school and therefore they MUST put > them on the bus. My daughter's program is 30 minutes the other way, and I > work 30 minutes opposite. I know I am not the only parent in that position. > I don't want parents feeling bad that they have no choice but to put their > child on the bus. > > About the minivan thing, I assumed all kids went on the regular " short " > yellow buses. When I observed the program in Pennsylvania, where we are > moving, I was pleased to see a minivan. However, in Calif, you aren't going > to get a minivan just because you ask for it.....I believe the district only > has to provide adequate and safe transportation. > > Ruth wrote: > > > >co.The drivers are safe or they would not be driving students! > >We are talking about a little boy who will be just turning 3yrs old!!! With > >out and aide NO WAY! Not on a big Bus! > >Just my opinion!! Others may disagree! > >Ruth, Maybe an overprotecting MOM > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 --Original Message Text--- From: brogers Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:11:38 -0500 It is so difficult to put a three-year-old on the bus. I never will forget the first time my little one, only 18 months in size, got on that bus. The school did provide car seats and belts for the small ones and there was an aide on the bus to make sure the kids were all getting on and off at the correct schools and stops. --------------------- Reply-- Times sure have changed! JJ started riding the bus at age 2, 19 years ago. It was a 32 seat, tho, not an 80 seat bus. No aide. Bus driver did not sign. We had to provide the car seat, carry her and seat into the bus, secure the seat and strap her in. Reverse it for coming home. While one may not like the transportation arrangements, depending on state law, they may be able to do what they will. Transportation is a related service under IDEA. Therefore, whether or not a district has a preschool program, if the child is attending school under an IFSP or an IEP, transportation must be provided at no cost to the parent, if it is appropriate. And I can't see that it would be appropriate for a 3 year old to walk, even if s/he lived 3 blocks from school. However, given that, generally schools will do whatever one's state laws allow, and not a shred more. One may demand all one wants, but it may be for naught. As has asked, what is unsafe about riding the bus? If one can show it is unsafe, one has a legitimate cause for action, and should put the district on notice in writing, forthwith! I have known parents to cry and scream and carry on for an aide - to no avail. I know one set of parents who went to a due process hearing over it - and lost. It stinks, but such are the realities of special ed. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 >For us, in Los Angeles, the special ed buses have to pick the kids up at the >house, not on the corner with general ed kids. Actually, that should be a matter for the IEPT to decide. When my daughter was young, and we lived out of district, the bus came to the house. When she was 10 and we moved into the operating district, she walked to the corner with all the other neighborhood kids. This does make them part of the mainstream. >They can't mix general and >special ed kids on the same bus. Does the US Dept of Ed's Office for Civil Rights know about this? I understand several school districts were found to be in violation of Section 504 for this discriminatory practice. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 My daughter does not go to our home school for the regular school so she is taken to school by a special ed car that comes to our driveway. The summer program for deaf and hard of hearing kids is at our home school. One year I had the special ed bus come to the house and it also took my son, who did not qualify for transportation, to school. It was working great until one day when they were over 1/2 hour late and I was starting to really get worried. It turned out my son and daughter had talked the bus driver into changing the route so they could see the kid in the wheel chair get dropped off. They wanted to see how the lift worked. It would have been nice if the driver had mentioned it to me first but I was encouraged that my children saw this child as a person. The child in the wheel chair was also non-verbal but went to my son's school. After that my son always went out of his way to speak to this child even knowing he wouldn't get a response. The last couple of summers Petya has been riding the regular summer school bus which I have to drive the kids to meet, about 1/2 mile from where we live. Not as convenient for me but she loves to ride the big bus with the rest of the kids. Last summer she had me explain the fm microphone to the bus driver and then everyday when getting on the bus would hand the bus driver the microphone and pick it up as she exited the bus. I was so proud of her advocating for herself and felt it was a good lesson in coping for her. Barb Actually, that should be a matter for the IEPT to decide. When my daughter was young, and we lived out of district, the bus came to the house. When she was 10 and we moved into the operating district, she walked to the corner with all the other neighborhood kids. This does make them part of the mainstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Ruth, Just a quick response...don't ever feel guilty about not doing more. We do the best we can with the information we have AT THE TIME. It is more likely than not, that most schools etc, will never offer information. You must search yourself. You're doing fine, stick with it, Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Thanks Janet! I think we are all SUPER MOMS!! Re: Busing Question > Ruth, > > Just a quick response...don't ever feel guilty about not doing more. We do the best we can with the information we have AT THE TIME. It is more likely than not, that most schools etc, will never offer information. You must search yourself. > You're doing fine, stick with it, > Janet > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 This is Los Angeles Unified. They're subject to the Chanda Consent Decree, over their failure to provide appropriate special education. They're in so much trouble for lousy special ed, this is probably a minor element. I've been fighting over all kinds of issues - like bus rides exceeding the 90 minute limit, bus drivers who refused to let my daughter off the bus, even though she had a release and told them, but they don't sign, so they didn't know, refusing to stop in front of my house and going on up over the crest of the hill, honking (to a house of deaf/HH people - give me a break), not providing a second bus for after school activities, like the hearing kids get. The district seems to have no control over the operation of the buses. It is a district with 700,000 kids, spread over a huge area, 2500 in DHH programs. I have to pick my battles with them. Judith Longman Re: Busing Question >For us, in Los Angeles, the special ed buses have to pick the kids up at the >house, not on the corner with general ed kids. Actually, that should be a matter for the IEPT to decide. When my daughter was young, and we lived out of district, the bus came to the house. When she was 10 and we moved into the operating district, she walked to the corner with all the other neighborhood kids. This does make them part of the mainstream. >They can't mix general and >special ed kids on the same bus. Does the US Dept of Ed's Office for Civil Rights know about this? I understand several school districts were found to be in violation of Section 504 for this discriminatory practice. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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