Re: To New Sheila/Dr Skinner

[Guest guest]

Hi Fee

I am pleased to report that i am on the way up. Dr Skinner sounds

great but getting my gp on my side is another issue. He is a lovely

guy but of the type that thinks Thyroxine is the way forward and only

Thyroxine because " after all its only replacing what your body needs

and not a drug " !!

I have sent off a questionnaire to Dr Myhill and hope to hook up with

her, i think the main problem is that another dr told me i wasn't

converting and put me on Armour but i have never reached my optimum

dose. The most i was on was 2 grains last summer and i think thats

why the winter was so awful for me. If only i had increased the dose

instead of messing around.

I have to say i did lose weight and feel quite good on the T3 but it

did not feel right. I did hear that Dr Skinner " doesn't do

adrenals " , and i suspect i have a problem there (awaiting test

results), but i certainly am not ruling him out, so many people speak

very highly of him.

Have no plans to increase Armour at the minute, i was scared silly

last week, and won't be doing anything to jeopardise my health again.

Fitness - good time to start. I have mild arthritis in my neck so

couldn't tolerate yoga so well, did pilates for a while so perhaps i

will get back to that.

Thanks for your help

Sheila (new)

> Hi New Sheila,

> You sound like you've been through the mill, but you're in a fab

> place here. I've read the superb advice given to you & wanted to

> mention a couple of other things too.

> IMHO I think you should just stick to just Armour for now & when

you

> increase, do it SLOWLY! I went up 1/2 grain every three weeks,

then

> at 3 grains I stayed there for 2 months, before going another 1/2

> grain after 3 weeks, then another half up to 4 after another three

> weeks. I tolerate it well though, everyone's different.

> I see Dr Skinner but he needs a referral from your GP and

prescribes

> your meds through your GP, so basically you need the GP on side.

> He never mentioned Ferritin to me, but I guess you could get your

GP

> to test your iron for free.

> I personally find Dr Skinner to be wonderful, he knows and

> understands thyroid illness inside out and he isn't into blood

tests,

> he's very thorough in his diagnosis & checks pulse, blood pressure,

> temperature & uses his eyes to look how you are, his ears to listen

> to what you're saying and then he decides. Not like a stupid endo

> hey who looks at a piece of paper with numbers on it?

> I also wanted to say that I felt terrible on that antibiotic

> erythrymycin thingy, I had terrible gut ache, wind, couldn't sleep,

> yak, never again. I avoid antibiotics like the plague.

> As for your fitness, you'll feel more like exercising when you're

on

> the right thyroid regime, it takes about 6 months I reckon to start

> to really feel better & find your correct dose. Dr Skinner has

> really helped me & speaks to me on the phone if I need to, but I

only

> do this if v.important.

> Maybe just start with some gentle yoga & walking & build it up, I

> find yoga is very therapeutic.

> I started getting fit again nearly a year ago now & it's made a

huge

> difference.

> I think diet can help, but nothing will help like being on the

right

> dose of Armour. I try to eat organic, lots of fresh stuff, lots of

> filtered water, no wheat or dairy... but I'm a chocaholic with a

> serious addiction to bounty's... you can't do it all!

> hope this helps,

> Fee x

>

> From Sheila:

> i will stay on this dose until the bloods can be done, definitely

> ferritin as well.

> Has anyone been treated by Dr Skinner, he seems to be my only hope

> next.

> Am going to take a look at my diet, and try (fingers crossed) to

take

> walks now that the weather is better, tough when you have no energy.

[Guest guest]

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH

Synthetics are NOT replacing what you need.. they are being used to

compensate for part what your body is missing, are not as effectively

utilized by the body for most and provide a high profit margin for all

those involved with it's sale and resale.

Natural thyroid products (Such as Armour, and other brands) provide the

real hormones, not the synthesized substitutes and they provide not only

the T4, in a form that is much easier for the body to utilize, but in

addition to that very important storage hormone it also provides T3, the

active thyroid hormone, T2, which assists in regulation of metabolic

rates, T1, that we haven't even found out what it does.. but it must do

something or our bodies wouldnt' be making it... AND, not to be

forgotten... Calcitonin... something that you can get no where else...

Don't know what Calcitonin is? It's what allows the body to pull calcium

out of the blood stream and put it back into your bones.... Think about

it... without that, what happens to your bones?

Natural thyroid isn't patented, like the synthetics... it's not a huge

money maker... and that is the ONLY reason that it's been pushed to the

side as a choice for thyroid care... it's so far superior to the T4 only

synthetics that it's Horrific that so many of us were subjected to it,

for decades!!!!

*clearing throat, climbing off soap box*

Topper () *blushing at getting so vocal.... *

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:58:21 -0000 " orlando1088 "

writes:

> Hi Fee

>

> I am pleased to report that i am on the way up. Dr Skinner sounds

> great but getting my gp on my side is another issue. He is a lovely

> guy but of the type that thinks Thyroxine is the way forward and

> only

> Thyroxine because " after all its only replacing what your body needs

> and not a drug " !!

> I have sent off a questionnaire to Dr Myhill and hope to hook up

> with her, i think the main problem is that another dr told me i wasn't

> converting and put me on Armour but i have never reached my optimum

> dose. The most i was on was 2 grains last summer and i think thats

> why the winter was so awful for me. If only i had increased the dose

> instead of messing around.

> I have to say i did lose weight and feel quite good on the T3 but it

>

> did not feel right. I did hear that Dr Skinner " doesn't do

> adrenals " , and i suspect i have a problem there (awaiting test

> results), but i certainly am not ruling him out, so many people

> speak very highly of him.

>

> Have no plans to increase Armour at the minute, i was scared silly

> last week, and won't be doing anything to jeopardise my health

> again.

> Fitness - good time to start. I have mild arthritis in my neck so

> couldn't tolerate yoga so well, did pilates for a while so perhaps i

> will get back to that.

> Thanks for your help

> Sheila (new)

[Guest guest]

YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

Re: Re: To New Sheila/Dr

Skinner

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH

Synthetics are NOT replacing what you need.. they are being used

to

compensate for part what your body is missing, are not as

effectively

utilized by the body for most and provide a high profit margin

for all

those involved with it's sale and resale.

Natural thyroid products (Such as Armour, and other brands)

provide the

real hormones, not the synthesized substitutes and they provide

not only

the T4, in a form that is much easier for the body to utilize,

but in

addition to that very important storage hormone it also provides

T3, the

active thyroid hormone, T2, which assists in regulation of

metabolic

rates, T1, that we haven't even found out what it does.. but it

must do

something or our bodies wouldnt' be making it... AND, not to be

forgotten... Calcitonin... something that you can get no where

else...

Don't know what Calcitonin is? It's what allows the body to pull

calcium

out of the blood stream and put it back into your bones....

Think about

it... without that, what happens to your bones?

Natural thyroid isn't patented, like the synthetics... it's not

a huge

money maker... and that is the ONLY reason that it's been pushed

to the

side as a choice for thyroid care... it's so far superior to the

T4 only

synthetics that it's Horrific that so many of us were subjected

to it,

for decades!!!!

*clearing throat, climbing off soap box*

Topper () *blushing at getting so vocal.... *

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:58:21 -0000 " orlando1088 "

writes:

> Hi Fee

>

> I am pleased to report that i am on the way up. Dr Skinner

sounds

> great but getting my gp on my side is another issue. He is a

lovely

> guy but of the type that thinks Thyroxine is the way forward

and

> only

> Thyroxine because " after all its only replacing what your body

needs

> and not a drug " !!

> I have sent off a questionnaire to Dr Myhill and hope to hook

up

> with her, i think the main problem is that another dr told me

i wasn't

> converting and put me on Armour but i have never reached my

optimum

> dose. The most i was on was 2 grains last summer and i think

thats

> why the winter was so awful for me. If only i had increased

the dose

> instead of messing around.

> I have to say i did lose weight and feel quite good on the T3

but it

>

> did not feel right. I did hear that Dr Skinner " doesn't do

> adrenals " , and i suspect i have a problem there (awaiting test

> results), but i certainly am not ruling him out, so many

people

> speak very highly of him.

>

> Have no plans to increase Armour at the minute, i was scared

silly

> last week, and won't be doing anything to jeopardise my health

> again.

> Fitness - good time to start. I have mild arthritis in my neck

so

> couldn't tolerate yoga so well, did pilates for a while so

perhaps i

> will get back to that.

> Thanks for your help

> Sheila (new)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Topper, i feel as if there is a huge crater between myself and

my doctor. I have simply given up on him and sadly opted to take the

very expensive, private doctor route. This slavish devotion to

Thyroxine is widespread. When i was first diagnosed, i was so happy

initially that i had a label, a reason for feeling so ill for years,

and the doctor said that i will now revert back to the well person i

was, thyroxine would sort out all my problems. At the time i believed

him. How naive was I.

Thanks for your message

Sheila

> AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH

>

> Synthetics are NOT replacing what you need.. they are being used to

> compensate for part what your body is missing, are not as

effectively

> utilized by the body for most and provide a high profit margin for

all

> those involved with it's sale and resale.

>

> Natural thyroid products (Such as Armour, and other brands) provide

the

> real hormones, not the synthesized substitutes and they provide not

only

> the T4, in a form that is much easier for the body to utilize, but

in

> addition to that very important storage hormone it also provides

T3, the

> active thyroid hormone, T2, which assists in regulation of metabolic

> rates, T1, that we haven't even found out what it does.. but it

must do

> something or our bodies wouldnt' be making it... AND, not to be

> forgotten... Calcitonin... something that you can get no where

else...

> Don't know what Calcitonin is? It's what allows the body to pull

calcium

> out of the blood stream and put it back into your bones.... Think

about

> it... without that, what happens to your bones?

>

> Natural thyroid isn't patented, like the synthetics... it's not a

huge

> money maker... and that is the ONLY reason that it's been pushed to

the

> side as a choice for thyroid care... it's so far superior to the T4

only

> synthetics that it's Horrific that so many of us were subjected to

it,

> for decades!!!!

>

> *clearing throat, climbing off soap box*

>

> Topper () *blushing at getting so vocal.... *

>

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:58:21 -0000 " orlando1088 " <orlando1088@y...>

> writes:

> > Hi Fee

> >

> > I am pleased to report that i am on the way up. Dr Skinner sounds

> > great but getting my gp on my side is another issue. He is a

lovely

> > guy but of the type that thinks Thyroxine is the way forward and

> > only

> > Thyroxine because " after all its only replacing what your body

needs

> > and not a drug " !!

> > I have sent off a questionnaire to Dr Myhill and hope to hook up

> > with her, i think the main problem is that another dr told me i

wasn't

> > converting and put me on Armour but i have never reached my

optimum

> > dose. The most i was on was 2 grains last summer and i think

thats

> > why the winter was so awful for me. If only i had increased the

dose

> > instead of messing around.

> > I have to say i did lose weight and feel quite good on the T3 but

it

> >

> > did not feel right. I did hear that Dr Skinner " doesn't do

> > adrenals " , and i suspect i have a problem there (awaiting test

> > results), but i certainly am not ruling him out, so many people

> > speak very highly of him.

> >

> > Have no plans to increase Armour at the minute, i was scared

silly

> > last week, and won't be doing anything to jeopardise my health

> > again.

> > Fitness - good time to start. I have mild arthritis in my neck so

> > couldn't tolerate yoga so well, did pilates for a while so

perhaps i

> > will get back to that.

> > Thanks for your help

> > Sheila (new)

[Guest guest]

I was in the same boat.. they told me that the RAI would 'slow' my over

active thyroid and I 'might' have to take a bit of supplementation....

First day.....

Then I was told.. ooppss.. you got too much, your thyroid is dead.. but

that's no big deal, just take this little pill every morning and you'll

be perfect...

Six months later, finally starting thyroid hormone replacement....

Ooopss.. you're getting sick? Hmmmm... let's give you less.. take it with

food...

Two years later, finally up to 'optimum' dose and able to take it without

getting sick....

Oooopsss... gaining weight.. that's because you're eating too much and

not exercising...

Over the next five years....

Oooopppsss you hurt too much to exercise.. that's because you've gotten

so fat, exercise anyway and stop eating candy all day.. the weight will

come off and you'll be fine....

Oooppssss ... still gaining weight.. you're still not exercising, you're

irresponsible and trying to blame it on something other than yourself....

Ten years since RAI....

Oooopppsss dont' have insurance, don't have a thyroid, can't get

medication.. no problem.. just give me a couple of thousand dollars and

I'll give you more Synthroid... then you'll feel just fine.

Over the next two years.....

Oooppsss... don't have enough money to see a doc to get thyroid

medication, don't have a thyroid anymore.. that's okay.. you won't die

for years.... We need the money for the professional welfare moms, drug

addicts and drunks... you just go someplace else... Oh, if you get

pregnant.. just bring a note from a doc and we'll take care of

everything.... otherwise, please don't drop dead on a city street, we'll

be liable for your burial (I'm not kidding that is the stuff they really

said to me)

13 years since RAI...

Hey.. I can get natural thyroid on my own.. and treat myself.....

3 months go by....

Hey.. I can get stuff to heal my adrenals... they're getting better even

after all those years on not enough meds... hey this is cool!

Another 9 months go by.....

Hey I'm getting better.. this is cool... Hey, I can get stronger stuff

from Mexico.. I'm getting better, this is awesome...

Another couple of months go by.....

Hey... I can walk without crutches.. I don't even feel the need to take

one along in the car anymore, just in case..

Another month goes by.....

Hey... I'm starting to lose weight... I'm still eating all the foods that

I did before.. and I'm losing weight....

A few more weeks....

Hey... I'm starting to get muscles! After 15 years of my life getting

worse and worse and worse each year.. I can lift weights again... I

wonder if I can get to where I was before all this happened?????

A couple of months....

Hey.... I can't keep my pants up anymore.. Hey.. I hooked them on the

table standing up and nearly pulled them off... Hey.. I got up to walk

across the room and barely caught them before the were passed the point

of public acceptance....

Now....

Hey.. I've done better on my own, treating myself with naturals, in just

18 months.. then they did in over a decade! And they are the docs and

they had lab tests... and all I've got is a mercury thermometer, a watch

and brains!

On to the future, when I have money for 'proper medical care'....

Doc says that I have to take Synthroid, that naturals are inferior and

I'll never do well on them, I take Synthroid or leave....

2 seconds later....

.... the doc rolls is head to one side.. watching me walk out the exam

room door, from the floor where he landed....

.... after I punched him....

I go home and order more Generic Armour from Mexico and continue

self-medicating....

Topper *brushing the filth off my hands after touching another ignorant

doc*

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:00:36 -0000 " orlando1088 "

writes:

> Thanks Topper, i feel as if there is a huge crater between myself and

> my doctor. I have simply given up on him and sadly opted to take the

> very expensive, private doctor route. This slavish devotion to

> Thyroxine is widespread. When i was first diagnosed, i was so happy

> initially that i had a label, a reason for feeling so ill for years,

> and the doctor said that i will now revert back to the well person i

> was, thyroxine would sort out all my problems. At the time i

> believed him. How naive was I.

>

> Thanks for your message

> Sheila