Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I am hot a lot of the time also, but it happened wayyyyyy before Armour! I started feeling hot in my early 40's. I am not always hot, but on the days I am I have a fan on my desk at work! The Armour didn't seem to make any difference that way. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 a, How much Armour are you on now? How long did it take to double your dose, and did you have any problems? Hot > > > > > > I am beginning my 3rd try with HC. In the past it > > has raised my BP a > > > lot so I quit. I have not had my addrenals tested > > but I believe that > > > my cortisol is high. I have worked up to 7,1/2gr > > of Armour & never > > > had a problem with raises. The only problem that I > > have ever had is > > > that when I hit about 3gr I became HOT. At that > > time my labs showed > > > below midrange on T4 & T3. > > > > > > I am just wondering if anyone else has had the > > problem with > > > overheating & corrected it with HC? I am afraid > > that if this does not > > > help that I will have to stop Armour & go to a > > synthic. BTW, both > > > thyroid-s & armour affect me this way. > > > > > > Gale > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I too would like to know how much Armour you are on. I became HOT when I hit 3gr. My labs showed Free's below midrange. I had great labs at 5gr. I am now at 7,1/2gr with no hyper symptoms. I know that I am over range now. I cannot imagine going higher? What is a gal to do??? Gale > > a, > How much Armour are you on now? How long did it take to double your dose, and did you have any problems? > Re: Re: Hot > > > Hi Gail, > I used to have that problem when taking Armour; switched to synthroid and temps were immediately okay. I know what it is like. My house was located on the prairies then and it was over 40 below outside and I couldn't tolerate heat in my bedroom, slept naked in that cold room and was still hot. It was grossly intolerable. > > Then I read on the thyroid group last fall that it means you need MORE armour. I switched from synthroid back to armour and upped my dose, doubling it and have been taking it for six months without the heat problem this time around. > > Hope you are able to try that remedy. I had a long talk with my doctor and she agreed to experiment a bit, and now my thyroid is working at optimum and I have lost weight and have more energy so the doctor was happy to prescribe the higher dosage. > > Good luck, > a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Gale: If I did not have the reverse T3 problem I would have stayed on Armour and not known the difference. Now that I am on T3, I would never go back on Armour unless it was 2 grains or under. I had palps every night, was hot, etc. I am now on much less T3 compared to the strength of Armour and am doing fine. It is possible I am allergic to something in Armour. -- Re: Hot Thanks . I am going to give the T3 a try. I really cannot go on being so d*** hot all of the time. Do you plan on staying on the T3 or eventually going back to Armour? I already posted but it is not showing up so I apolagize if this comes through twice. Gale > > I don't know if I answered this or not. It has been since the middle of > March. I weaned from 4 grains to 3 grains before I added T3. I then weaned > quickly from 3 grains to 2 then 1grain. That took only a week or two cause > I substituted 20 mcg of T3 for 1 grain of Armour. > > I am not using cytomel and suspect this is why Mo is having problems. > Perhaps she is getting generic cytomel or a foreign brand and we really do > not know the quality. Just a guess. I am getting my T3 compounded at a > compounding pharmacy. It is actually cheaper than cytomel if I ordered > cytomel from one of the recommended foreign dealers. > > I am no longer depressed and am able to exercise again. Mowed the lawn > twice since starting so things are on the upswing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 7 1/2 grains sound like an awful lot!! I will bet you are making reverse T3 which is blocking the receptors from T3 binding. ANd the only T3 you are getting is from Armour, not from making any from the T4 you are getting. I would be concerned about being on a dose that high. I think your being hot is an indicator you are on too much. What is your pulse running? -- Re: Hot , Thanks so much for such detailed information on switching. I am currently on 7,1/2 gr of Armour & hope that I need much less T3. I am printing out your post for future reference. Gale > > > > gradually made the switch. I no longer take Armour. I noticed the > > difference as soon as I started weaning down the Amour. I noticed I > am much > > less depressed, in fact, not depressed at all. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 And summer is drawing near. I hope you get this resolved soon. I agree with , I've never heard of someone taking 7 grains of Armour. Gale wrote: , I have charted my temps. They are very stable from day to day. I am going to try the Cytomel & drop the Armour. I just cannot go on like this. It is hot enough here in Texas without this added to it. Gale > > Gail, > > I'm running out of ideas. Can you try taking your daily average temperature for a few days to see if you have a thyroid issue? > > > --------------------------------- Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Really? I didn't think that seven grains was THAT much? I am always running really HOT these days... I thought that it was a hypo thing and that I just needed to get my Armour optimized? Now you guys have me wondering? I am on 4 1/4 grains. And summer is drawing near. I hope you get this resolved soon. I agree with , I've never heard of someone taking 7 grains of Armour. Gale > --------------------------------- Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 That's the most I've heard anyone here taking. JuLie wrote: Really? I didn't think that seven grains was THAT much? I am always running really HOT these days... I thought that it was a hypo thing and that I just needed to get my Armour optimized? Now you guys have me wondering? I am on 4 1/4 grains. And summer is drawing near. I hope you get this resolved soon. I agree with , I've never heard of someone taking 7 grains of Armour. Gale > --------------------------------- Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 What has your pulse been running? To me that is a better indicator of thyroid levels with all the crummy thermometers around and with things like eating and chewing gum effecting temps. -- Re: Re: Hot Really? I didn't think that seven grains was THAT much? I am always running really HOT these days... I thought that it was a hypo thing and that I just needed to get my Armour optimized? Now you guys have me wondering? I am on 4 1/4 grains. And summer is drawing near. I hope you get this resolved soon. I agree with , I've never heard of someone taking 7 grains of Armour. Gale > --------------------------------- Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 , > 7 1/2 grains sound like an awful lot!! I will bet you are making reverse T3 > which is blocking the receptors from T3 binding. ANd the only T3 you are > getting is from Armour, not from making any from the T4 you are getting. I agree . This is why I am going to try Cytomel. I suspect that most of the T4 is being converted to RT3. That means that 7,1/2gr of Armour is giving me 60 mcg of T3...??? That may very well be not enough for me. Gale > > I would be concerned about being on a dose that high. I think your being > hot is an indicator you are on too much. What is your pulse running? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 , I forgot to add, my pulse is between 78 & 88 pbm. Hypo??? Gale > > > > > > gradually made the switch. I no longer take Armour. I noticed the > > > difference as soon as I started weaning down the Amour. I noticed I > > am much > > > less depressed, in fact, not depressed at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 right but the T3 from Armour would not be binding to the receptor sites since they would be blocked by the reverse T3, I would think. -- Re: Hot , > 7 1/2 grains sound like an awful lot!! I will bet you are making reverse T3 > which is blocking the receptors from T3 binding. ANd the only T3 you are > getting is from Armour, not from making any from the T4 you are getting. I agree . This is why I am going to try Cytomel. I suspect that most of the T4 is being converted to RT3. That means that 7,1/2gr of Armour is giving me 60 mcg of T3...??? That may very well be not enough for me. Gale > > I would be concerned about being on a dose that high. I think your being > hot is an indicator you are on too much. What is your pulse running? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 That sounds like a perfectly normal pulse to me. When I was on 4 grains or even 3 grains of Armour, my pulse ran in the high 90s all the way up to the 120s resting. Now it is in the 70's and 80's. It does not really make sense unless the pulse was high from being hypo. and now I am no longer as hypo. -- Re: Hot , I forgot to add, my pulse is between 78 & 88 pbm. Hypo??? Gale > > > > > > gradually made the switch. I no longer take Armour. I noticed the > > > difference as soon as I started weaning down the Amour. I noticed I > > am much > > > less depressed, in fact, not depressed at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 , Thanks for your help. Summer is here in TX. This is why I am at a crossroad. I am going to drop the Armour & start T3. The only alternative is to go off all thyroid meds. I may as well go out & dig my own grave. Lol Gale > > > > Gail, > > > > I'm running out of ideas. Can you try taking your daily average > temperature for a few days to see if you have a thyroid issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 240 of armour. I increased from 120; no problems. a JuLie wrote: a, How much Armour are you on now? How long did it take to double your dose, and did you have any problems? ----- Original Message ----- From: morgana To: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:22 --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Gail - I know that when we are not well, we feel like the walking dead. It shouldn't reallly hurt if you try straight t3...I pray it works for you. Gale wrote: , Thanks for your help. Summer is here in TX. This is why I am at a crossroad. I am going to drop the Armour & start T3. The only alternative is to go off all thyroid meds. I may as well go out & dig my own grave. Lol Gale > > > > Gail, > > > > I'm running out of ideas. Can you try taking your daily average > temperature for a few days to see if you have a thyroid issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 , Thank you very much. I am praying for some relief from these symptoms .. I also am praying that the weight gain will stop. Gale > > > > > > Gail, > > > > > > I'm running out of ideas. Can you try taking your daily average > > temperature for a few days to see if you have a thyroid issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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