Anybody try Adaptocrine?

May 5, 2007

Hi, Gang:

I've been a bit tired for the last 30 days, so I've been lurking.

However, I had an appointment this week with Dr. Dreamy, and some of the

" dream " part is wearing off. He reviewed my tests again, and obviously,

my adrenals are shot, so I need to pay more attention to them. I'll tell

you more in a bit; first, he recommended this product, and says he takes

it himself:

http://store.agoodvitamin.com/apenadk290ca.html

What he told me that it's not a prescription but not exactly available

OTC--in other words, I can get it in his office. (Yeah--meet Sir

Google.) I'll find out more from them on Monday, but I have a feeling

I'll be getting it online unless it costs as much as it does to get it

online. To see the ingredients, click here:

http://store.drstadtmauer.com/adaptocrine-p-172.html?osCsid=99e0065905eaf

38db606bb5e90f1b851

Then on the right, click where it says " click for label. " Has some stuff

I've never taken, like holybasil, and some other stuff I've never tried.

Testosterone, progesterone and DHEA are on the high side, but it might be

because I'd taken progesterone cream about 30 days before, but the next

set should be more accurate. The high testosterone is what's

puzzling--I've never taken it. Also said I'm a " unique individual "

because the test results are contradictory, even though my adrenals are

hanging by a rope in the breeze. (Heck, my parents would agree I'm

unusual, but not in a good way.) He didn't even blink at the 0.004 TSH,

and agreed that it wasn't accurate.

Oh, yeah, baby!

Then came the " chink in the Armour " (pun intended)--he asked about me

dropping sugar, and of course, I have, except for the rare occasion that

I go somewhere or at certain times of the month when " chocolate becomes a

major food group. " <smirk> He gets to thinking about dopamine and

seratonin, and says, " I have a suggestion to raise the brain chemicals. "

I said, " like what? " He says with a straight face, " Wellbutrin. " The

smile left my face, I looked him right in the eyes and said, " NO. " He

backed off, then said it was just something we could try to increase

production of the two chemicals. I said, " I'll stick with chocolate,

thank you very much. Tell you what--YOU take Wellbutrin, and tell me what

happens when ti crosses YOUR blood-brain barrier. " I reminded him of the

black-box warning on antidepressants and that people kill themselves and

others while taking them. He smiled and changed the subject.

I'm going to tread very carefully, and if he brings it up again I'm

simply going to leave, buy up all the prescriptions of HC and Armour and

find another doctor. Maybe I'll tell him, maybe I won't--but if he blows

it again, I'm GONE, and maybe back to treating myself.

Thanks.

Amy the Redhead

May 5, 2007

Amy:

" He gets to thinking about dopamine and

seratonin, and says, " I have a suggestion to raise the brain chemicals. "

I said, " like what? " He says with a straight face, " Wellbutrin. " "

If he insists, I would ask him about 5-HTP (for serotonin) and tyrosine (for

dopamine), which really do RAISE them, not just inhibit the uptake of what you

already have! Maybe you can find him something short to read on amino acid

therapy for neurotransmitters.

For your own uses, I highly recommend The Mood Cure by Ross!

-Olif

May 5, 2007

Wow, Amy the Redhead, that was inspirational!

I've had many doctors tell me stuff like that; I've heard that I'm

different, unique,

and even weird. Yup, one doc really told me that I was weird. Well, that my

labs were weird.

I think it means they have no idea what is going on with us, so it must be

our fault 'cause we're weird. Hah!

That product looks like its pretty good, but I take a lot of the stuff

that's in it already. However, I thought I had read some where that Holy

Basil is good for early stages of AI, but bad for the latter stages? Any one

else heard that? I could be wrong.

Theda

May 8, 2007

In a message dated 08/05/2007 22:30:17 GMT Daylight Time,

lhensley@... writes:

Depression is a physical disease and yes, it can be caused by hormone

problems, and the antidepressants can really help. I know from personal

experience.

They have helped me also BUT, having taken TWO years to withdraw from

Seroxat and been involved in a list for people trying to withdraw I can vouch

for

the fact that they really mess with people's lives also ands cause horrendous

problems especially to those with thyroid and adrenal problems.

for instance, one reduction I made in the process of weaning off, put me in

bed for a month with what looked to all intents and purposes like a bad 'flu

minus the wet stuff.

Mo

www.NOVACounselling.com

May 8, 2007

Please don't drop this wonderful doctor because he knows about antidepressants.

Antidepressants can be good.

I take antidepressants. They help A LOT!

He sounds like a doctor who is able to learn from ALL sources of info. He is

very rare! Don't drop him.

Those black box warnings are from those same wonderful people who warn you that

coffee is very hot, the Lawyers. Further studies on the same subject after the

black box rule was initiated show that while suicidal ideation is increased in

some children and teenagers, they actually go through with the deed less when on

medication. In other words antidepressants actually save lives. And I just

wonder how much of that ideation is caused by the chemicals in the drug

themselves instead of just the blow to self esteem having to go on medication

causes, or just being sick enough to need them in the first place as compared

with someone who only needs some talk therapy. Depression is a physical disease

and yes, it can be caused by hormone problems, and the antidepressants can

really help. I know from personal experience.

Hensley