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In a message dated 01/05/2007 21:02:50 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

I think the weight loss depends on if they are on ENOUGH thyroid and

ENOUGH Cortiosl to get it into the cells. Unfortunately I got sick again

after that and regained 30 pounds but that

Have you lost any more weight with the T3 only Val?

I am an Armour-free zone from tomorrow btw.

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In a message dated 01/05/2007 21:24:41 GMT Daylight Time,

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a bit hyper when I was on 250MCG a day! LOL I just tweaked it up a bit

starting today I hope for weight loss by the end of the week. On what I

eat I should be losing weight as soon as the thyroid is right. With the

Diabets I track eveyr morsel of food that crosses mylips and no way

should I hold this poundage with what I am eating. So I think a bit more

tweaking up was called for.

So you experienced hyper at last? I think I remember you saying this had

never happened to you? If I remember rightly that is.

I am so discouraged by not losing any weight on the Atkins induction diet a

while back Val. What I don't understand is that I DID lose weight this time

last year when I went on a candida diet and they are pretty similar, in fact if

anything I should have lost more on the Atkins and all I lost was water in

the first week and then zilch for three weeks.

I wonder if you have any idea why this should happen? Something must have

changed with my metabolism for me to be unable to lose weight now on Atkins.

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In a message dated 01/05/2007 21:37:25 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

The weight loss or not hase everything to do with hypothyroid. When I am

hypo I can eat 600 calories a day and not lose an ounce. I have done it

for a month at a time and not lost ANYTHING. #When you have enough

thyroid and it can get into your tissues properly, you will lose weight

on Atkins.

I understand what you are saying and I look forward to the day as i am sure

a lot of us do on these lists.

What is confusing me is that this time last year, when I was indeed very

hypo, I lost nearly 20 lbs on the candida diet!

This is wierd to me. I always thought i knew how to lose weight I just had

to lose the bad carbs BUT I cannot lose weight now even with losing the bad

carbs. And all this happened in one year.

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Actually I am a Diabetic and though I was on HC when diagnosed, I had it

a year before starting HC. Whne I take HC now it actually lowers my

glucose. Takign too much could easily trigger it however. I also lost 91

poounds last year on HC.

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So is the key here is not taking too much h/c or can simply taking hc

trigger diabetes in some people especially if they're on the cusp?

I used to think I was borderline because my NON fasting A1C used to be

a couple points over normal but something you said smacked me back to

reality. It's the fasting A1C that determines your diabetic status I

believe. I'm going to start using my monitor again to see where I'm

at.

Lastly, the weight, that's extraordinary - 91 pounds. You must have

been thrilled when that started coming off. I lost 60 lbs and I'm so

afraid of gaining it back. Do you think you were the exception Val, do

people lose weight as opposed to gaining on hc?

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Actually I am a Diabetic and though I was on HC when diagnosed, I had

it year before starting HC. Whne I take HC now it actually lowers my

glucose. Takign too much could easily trigger it however. I also lost

91 poounds last year on HC.

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I think the weight loss depends on if they are on ENOUGH thyroid and

ENOUGH Cortiosl to get it into the cells. Unfortunately I got sick again

after that and regained 30 pounds but that is still far better than I

was! LOL Typiocal 3 steps forward, one step back which seems to be the

way with hypo! I do NOT think physiological dose of HC cause Diabetes.

When you getinto pharmacological doses YES!

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Yup, you're still ahead by a long shot.

Thanx Val

I think the weight loss depends on if they are on ENOUGH thyroid and

ENOUGH Cortiosl to get it into the cells. Unfortunately I got sick

again after that and regained 30 pounds but that is still far better

than I was! LOL Typiocal 3 steps forward, one step back which seems to

be the way with hypo! I do NOT think physiological dose of HC cause

Diabetes. When you getinto pharmacological doses YES!

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I lost 5 pounds a couple weeks ago now at a standstill again. But I went

a bit hyper when I was on 250MCG a day! LOL I just tweaked it up a bit

starting today I hope for weight loss by the end of the week. On what I

eat I should be losing weight as soon as the thyroid is right. With the

Diabets I track eveyr morsel of food that crosses mylips and no way

should I hold this poundage with what I am eating. So I think a bit more

tweaking up was called for.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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The weight loss or not hase everything to do with hypothyroid. When I am

hypo I can eat 600 calories a day and not lose an ounce. I have done it

for a month at a time and not lost ANYTHING. #When you have enough

thyroid and it can get into your tissues properly, you will lose weight

on Atkins.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Y9ou are probably MORE hypo this year than last year. I usually run in

fits and bursts when my metabolism kicks in I can feel it by HUNGER.

Then I knwo iI will lose weight if I diet. Most the time I never feel

hunger. That is from being hypo and having no metabolism to speak of.

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I am starving all the time, even when I was pigging out and gaining and even

when I was on HC and Armour, and even when my labs reported I was in a

catabolic state. WHy I do not know. My doc thinks it is insulin resistance

and he gave me some insulinase, whatever that is for.

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Y9ou are probably MORE hypo this year than last year. I usually run in

fits and bursts when my metabolism kicks in I can feel it by HUNGER.

Then I knwo iI will lose weight if I diet. Most the time I never feel

hunger. That is from being hypo and having no metabolism to speak of.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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In a message dated 01/05/2007 22:52:22 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Y9ou are probably MORE hypo this year than last year. I usually run in

fits and bursts when my metabolism kicks in I can feel it by HUNGER.

Then I knwo iI will lose weight if I diet. Most the time I never feel

hunger. That is from being hypo and having no metabolism to speak of.

Oh that is interesting Val because I have noticed an increase in hunger

levels since i started the T3.

Mo

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Hi ,

What do the terms " physiological dose " and " pharmacological dose "

mean? What's the difference?

Thanks,

Zookee

>

> Yup, you're still ahead by a long shot.

>

> Thanx Val

>

>

> I think the weight loss depends on if they are on ENOUGH thyroid

and

> ENOUGH Cortiosl to get it into the cells. Unfortunately I got sick

> again after that and regained 30 pounds but that is still far

better

> than I was! LOL Typiocal 3 steps forward, one step back which seems

to

> be the way with hypo! I do NOT think physiological dose of HC cause

> Diabetes. When you getinto pharmacological doses YES!

>

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

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Check out this website.

http://featherstone.bravehost.com/thyroid/peatfieldadrenal.html

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> > Yup, you're still ahead by a long shot.

> >

> > Thanx Val

> >

> >

> > I think the weight loss depends on if they are on ENOUGH thyroid

> and

> > ENOUGH Cortiosl to get it into the cells. Unfortunately I got

sick

> > again after that and regained 30 pounds but that is still far

> better

> > than I was! LOL Typiocal 3 steps forward, one step back which

seems

> to

> > be the way with hypo! I do NOT think physiological dose of HC

cause

> > Diabetes. When you getinto pharmacological doses YES!

> >

> > > Artistic Grooming-

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>>What do the terms " physiological dose " and " pharmacological dose "

mean? What's the difference?<<

Physiological doses are only replacing what the body woul dmake if it coud and

was working poroperly. Pharmacological doses are WAY more than the body would

EVER make on its own.Pharmacological doses of almost any hormone is detrimental

to a persons health. Hormones are such that they should only be used in doses to

simulate what nature intended for best health.

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