Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 To the Nurse, What symptoms listed do you feel are far-fetched? Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 To the nurse, Feel free to put up your own list of " true symptoms " . AND while your at it add your theory to the connection to the problems we all seem to be having here at the uterine fibroids group! To anyone else who suspects that they should get a check up! Please do it!!! It is a simple blood draw test that takes less than a minute! Take it from someone who has Hashimotos Thyroid Disease and Graves Disease (which are autoimmune disorders) with a Toxic Multi-nodular Goiter, with the likely hood of endometriosis and has fybrocystic breasts and fibroids and who took Lupron for 3 months. Who also had 3 c-sections and an eptopic pregnacy after having a tubal ligation, etc. and I could go on! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 To those who read this message. Some of these symptoms are true symptoms of thyroid disease. Majority of symptoms that are listed are so far fetched that they make me laugh. Take it from a nurse. > This is a copy/paste of the symptoms list that many gravesians helped put > together from another group I belong to. If you experiance some of these > symptoms, you should get a complete thyroid blood panel done, immediately! > As you can see, many of the symptoms of the uterinefibroids group are also > listed here: > > HyperThyroid > > Amennohrea, oligomenorrhea, or heavier menses > Aversion to heat, always warm > Bladder problems > Blotchy itchy patches without rash > Bouncy legs > Congestive heart failure > Constant hunger > Cramps > Depression > Difficulty breathing > Difficulty eating > Disorientation, confusion, brain fog > Dizziness > Dots (horizontally) in nails > Dry, brittle, lusterless hair > Endometriosis > Feel like you¹re vibrating, tremors > Goiter > Graying hair > Hair loss > Headaches > Heartburn > High or low blood pressure problems > Hives > Hyper bowels (up to 8 movements a day) > Inability to sit still > Increased susceptibility to other immune problems (gum disease, etc.) > Infertility > Intolerant of stress (even a scary book or movie will increase heart > rate) > Irritabilty > Loss of coordination > Loss of psychological perspective on life > Loss of stamina > Low cholesterol level which rises dramatically upon treatment > Lowered libido > Lowered stamina (even when stabilized on ATD¹s) > Memory loss > Miscarriage > Mood swings > Nail margins uneven > Nails split into 2 layers > Nails weak, cracking > Numbness in limbs > Onycholysis (separation of nail from it¹s bed) > Ovarian cysts > Panic > Racing heart (rapid pulse) > Rage > Rashes > Ridged nails (vertically) " washboarding " > Shaking hands, loss of dexterity, inability to even write clearly > Shortness of breath > Skin tags (hanging moles) > Sleeplessness > Smelly sweat (esp. feet) > Sore throat > Stomach cramps > Sweating easily, heavily > Unable to calm down and sleep after sex > Uticaria (rash) > Vitiligo (patchy loss of pigmentation in skin) > Weakness in legs and arms > Weight loss or gain (rapid) > > > > HypoThyroid > > Aversion to cold > Brain stops working > Can't get moving > Can't spell own name > Depression > Dry, brittle hair > Eyebrows stop growing > Feeling like a slug; no energy > Feeling of being overwhelmed > Headache > Heavy menses & cramping > High cholesterol & triglyceride levels > Inability to be self-directed or stay on task > Irregular heart rate (bradycardia) > Joint pain > Long menstrual cycle > Loss of memory > Nails that split, break, get thickened > Never " right " temperature; internal thermostat not working > Panic attacks > Premature birth > Puffy eyes, face, hands, feet > Severe hair loss > Severe weight gain even when not eating much > Sleep apnea > Sleepy all day, insomnia at night > Still birth > Suicidal thoughts > Thick, dry tongue > Unable to stop crying although not " sad " > > Eyes > Bad night vision > Blurring of vision > Bulging eyes > Double vision > Dry eyes > Eyestrain > Inability to close eyes to sleep > Lid lag > Sensitive to light, even indoors > Staring > Swelling of eyes > Tearing > Ulceration > > I hope this helps! > > Deb > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Thanks for saying something. I am not a nurse but the some of the symptoms listed seem to be contradictory. And I was so spooked that I started to imagine that I had both types of thyroid conditions and then-oh my-I looked at my nails! It probably would not hurt to get a check up but I won't jump to a conclusion based on that list. > To those who read this message. Some of these symptoms are true > symptoms of thyroid disease. Majority of symptoms that are listed are > so far fetched that they make me laugh. Take it from a nurse. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 , How are you doing now, have you been able to get your thyroid levels euthyroid (normal hormone levels)? Sometimes as we near or move into normal thyroid levels we begin to get symptoms of the opposite end. But chemically we can still be hypo or hyper which ever we are. My endo recently told me it takes a while for the rest of our system to catch up. Again it is possible your estrogen levels are up, maybe from fibroids which is causing you to be hypo. If you haven't already, you should get those levels checked, the FSH and LH. Hopefully it may help your thyroid situation. The symptoms list was made up of about 300 people with thyroid disease of symptoms that come up constantly by people with Graves and Hashimotos. What symptoms are you getting from the list? If you have a higher heart rate, or palpitations, or tremors (shaking) of your hand, insomnia, quick mood swings like anger all of a sudden or anxious. These are some of the symptoms recognized by doctors for hyper thyroid. Some secondary symptoms of hyper from a faster metabolism may include diareah, stomach pain, nausea, GI problems, weakness, muscle fatigue. The hyper medicine may cause itching or blotchiness of the skin. For hypo is is exactly the opposite. Your metabolism runs slow. You are fatigued and may sleep all the time. Your hands and feet may swell. Your skin my become extremely dry. Constipation, Slow heart rate and blood pressure, These the doctor would recognize. again secondary symptoms may include stomach pain, nausea, GI problems, endometriosis, bone and joint pain, etc. If you are having signs of hyper, the ones I wrote the doctor would recognize. It could mean you are swinging out of normal towards hyper. When was your last labs? Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 WOW Look at how many symptoms of HYPERthyroidism I have! > HyperThyroid > > Amennohrea, oligomenorrhea, or heavier menses > Blotchy itchy patches without rash > Bouncy legs > Constant hunger > Depression > Dry, brittle, lusterless hair > Endometriosis Graying hair > Hair loss > Headaches > Infertility > Intolerant of stress (even a scary book or movie will increase heart > rate) > Irritabilty > Loss of coordination > Loss of psychological perspective on life > Loss of stamina > Lowered libido > Lowered stamina (even when stabilized on ATD¹s) > Miscarriage > Mood swings > Nails split into 2 layers > Nails weak, cracking > Racing heart (rapid pulse) > Shortness of breath > Sleeplessness Sweating easily, heavily > Thing is - I was diagnosed 8 months ago with HYPOthyroidism (of which I only had a few of the listed symptoms). Believe me I had my levels checked more than once and it is hypo (not hyperthyroidism). I wonder who came up with the " symptom " list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 They aren't as far fetched as you think. All these health problems can be caused by hypo and hyper thyroidism due to the impact that too little or too much thyroid hormone has on all the systems of the body. Thyroid function affects everything from hormones, to mineral balance, to muscle function, to vitimin and mineral uptake, to brain function, to the melatonin seratonin sleep cycle, to anemia, to oxygenation of the blood, to heart disease, to cancer development. The results are wide reaching to all parts of the body. Most hypo or hyper thyroid patients don't just have one of these seeming far fetched symptoms. If you look at it that way, it is silly. Most patients that are hypo or hyper have multiple symptoms that often add up to a large percentage of those listed. It's the big picture not the small. The body's processes don't operate in a vacuum. Everything is connected and must work in concert. Hypo and hyper thyoidism has a domino effect on health. The longer it goes untreated the larger the impact on health. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hi , I am really sorry you had to go through all of that!!! Graves Disease is and autoimmune Disease and is the cause in 90% of the cases of hyperthyroidism. The thyroid is the victim in Graves Disease not the cause but must be treated. I too have dry brittle hair, and patches on my neck. It is likely eczema. If you make an appointment with a dermatologist you can get a prescription that works really good and fast for it. The TSH alone is not good enough for monitering! Tell your doc It is well known in the medical society that the TSH lags behind the T4 and the T3. Sometimes it takes months for the TSH to catch up to the others. The TSH moniters what the pituary gland is telling the thyroid to do. It is like a thermostat. The most important test for monitering is the Free T4 and if your doctor will do it the Free T3. They will tell what is going on with you right now. With these 3 blood tests you should be able to be regulated. The FSH and LH moniter estrogen and progestrone levels. There are other tests you can take besides the blood work to diagnose graves. One is a thyroid scan and uptake, another is an ultrasound and then the antibody tests. I do know if your estrogen is low you would be hypo, if your estrogen is high you would become hyper. The fluctuation you are having with hyper symptoms is possibily caused from the fibroids putting off estrogen or the thyroid problem may be causing your fibroids. It is good though that you are having regular lab testing. It takes about 3 weeks for the medicine to adjust in your system each time. Here is a link to the mediboard site, there is tons of info on what you have. The more you learn about it, the quicker and better you will be able to control it. http://www.mediboard.com/graves it is really good, there is no emails and you can read without posting if you like. Reading from both sites, this and that one to really put two and two together! Hope to see you there. If you have any other questions, ask away! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 > , > > How are you doing now, have you been able to get your thyroid levels > euthyroid (normal hormone levels)? My thyroid levels were normal for 2 months when I had emergency surgery for a ruptured tubo-ovarian abcess. While in the ER for that a CAT scan showed a 4cm submucosal fibroid right at the entrance of my uterus. I begged the surgeon not to remove the uterus unless necessary to save my life (I also had peritonitis and septicimia and was very anemic). My endocrinologist came and checked on me while I was in the intensive care but they took me off my unithroid for a while. SInce then, my TSH levels have risen again so we are working on getting to a better range. I have had the full workup (TSH, FSH and LH etc.) and get TSH level and CBCs every month or two. I dont know about my estrogen levels. Interestingly, I the months after L was diagnosed with hypothyroidism, i had my first bad period. I was not referred back to my gyn. because it was assumed the thyoid was the reason for the bleeding. Shortly before I ended up in the ER, I bled for 6 weeks and since my thyroid levels were normal, I was referred back to my gyn. Too bad, 5 days beofre my appointment, I passed out at home (due to the anemia and pain). Also my drs cannot make a connection between the abcess and the fibroid (they say it is just more coincidence). I strongly disagree and feel they were somehow related. Anyway, each dr. (endo, gyn) just kinda monitors there own area. I would love to know if there is some correlation between all these new health problems. As for the symptoms, I am classic hyper (in fact, when I told my dr. relatives I was hypo they thought I had got the wrong info - I am a habitual aborter, small statured, tachycardia (probably due to the anemia), dry patches on my neck, dry brittle hair, fast metabolism and so on. But since I had a TSH every month now, I know I have not swung the other way toward hyper. I wonder if I have something else going on. What is Graves? How is it tested for? I go back next week to the endo, I will talk with her then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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