Re: Started HC and Insominia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 28/03/2007 19:32:58 GMT Daylight Time, jigscam@...

writes:

I really don't know what triggered it - maybe I had too much iodine? Is the

Atkins diet high in iodine? Is there a lot of iodine in cheese?

Maybe it was bound to happen anyways, but psychologically I'm traumitized by

it despite EVERYONE saying that avoiding sugars and starchy carbs is really

the way to go when you have these health issues.

Sammie

I wouldnot have thought the Atkins diet was high in iodine unless you were

eating ginormous amounts of fish. Don't know about cheese. I am on the

induction phase right now and cannot have any cheese. Just protein and salad.

Avoiding sugars and starchy carbs is the way to go for a healthy life

really. Not just to help us out when we are unwell.

Maybe you could ease yourself off the worst of the carbs at this time? Lose

the bread would be a good start I am thinking. See how you go?

Mo

www.NOVACounselling.com

[Guest guest]

Hi again Sammie

Maybe the low carb diet triggered die-off symptoms that stimulated the

Grave's antibodies??M

Maybe that is a question you could ask on your candida list?

That's all I can think of. But you are right, eating low carb and low sugar

is so important. I'm working on it. Right now, I'm trying to research more

about Candigest Plus and similar items that could help me with the die-off

symptoms. I've also joined another group.

Let us know if they have any useful opinions on Candigest (which is said NOT

to cause any die-off because it DIGESTS the little blighters - hence the

name. that other product that I mentioned yesterday, that looks interesting, is

available in the U.S. whereas Candigest I think is only available from the

U.K. That is said not toc ause die-off either as the blighters are moved out of

the system quickly.

Mo

I think it's interesting that many of us have candida issues.

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[Guest guest]

You think you are bad...I don't start my day until 10:30 or 11 am, which is when

I take my first dose of Cortef. And I usually don't go to bed until 12:30 or 1

AM and don't fall asleep until 1:30 or 2 AM, so you can see my cortisol rhythm

is messed! It is sooooo hard for me to get out of bed before 10 AM, I have to

just lie there for about an hour to wake up.

Dove Rose

> I

> didn't know people with adrenal fatigue could get up at 6 am--LOL! I

> don't

> start my first dose until 8:30-9:00, because that's when I get

> up. Could that be causing a problem with my cortisol rhythm?

>

>

>

>

> >

> > >>6 a.m. 10 mg

> > 10 a.m. 5 mg

> > 2 p.m. 2.5 mg

> > 9-10 p.m. 2.5 mg

> >

> > Does that look okay, even though I would be going from 2 until 9 in

> between doses<<

[Guest guest]

That's what I was thinking, too (about changing dosage too much). I was tested

with both serum and saliva---blood showed high cortisol, saliva was

w/DiagnosTech and put me at Stage 7. My doctor recommended dosing at 5, 5, 5, no

night time dose. But, she said to play with it and see what worked for me. She

admittedly is not familiar with treating adrenal problems, but is

alternative-minded and will prescribe cortisol.

My am cortisol was 14 (in range but low), rest of the day was 2. With such a

discrepancy I wonder if something was amiss with one (or both) of the tests.

This is not as easy as I thought it was going to be.

Posted by: " debbie " debbieellison06@... debbieellison06

Hi, playing back and forth with the dosage of HC is not good.For a

lot of people 5 mgs. 4 times a day works. This is not for

everybody.Have you been tested?You need to know when your high and

when you low. Taking HC at times when you don't need it is not a good

thing.LOL

Debbie

[Guest guest]

That's what I was thinking, too (about changing dosage too much). I was tested

with both serum and saliva---blood showed high cortisol, saliva was

w/DiagnosTech and put me at Stage 7. My doctor recommended dosing at 5, 5, 5, no

night time dose. But, she said to play with it and see what worked for me. She

admittedly is not familiar with treating adrenal problems, but is

alternative-minded and will prescribe cortisol.

My am cortisol was 14 (in range but low), rest of the day was 2. With such a

discrepancy I wonder if something was amiss with one (or both) of the tests.

This is not as easy as I thought it was going to be.

Posted by: " debbie " debbieellison06@... debbieellison06

Hi, playing back and forth with the dosage of HC is not good.For a

lot of people 5 mgs. 4 times a day works. This is not for

everybody.Have you been tested?You need to know when your high and

when you low. Taking HC at times when you don't need it is not a good

thing.LOL

Debbie

[Guest guest]

That's what I was thinking, too (about changing dosage too much). I was tested

with both serum and saliva---blood showed high cortisol, saliva was

w/DiagnosTech and put me at Stage 7. My doctor recommended dosing at 5, 5, 5, no

night time dose. But, she said to play with it and see what worked for me. She

admittedly is not familiar with treating adrenal problems, but is

alternative-minded and will prescribe cortisol.

My am cortisol was 14 (in range but low), rest of the day was 2. With such a

discrepancy I wonder if something was amiss with one (or both) of the tests.

This is not as easy as I thought it was going to be.

Posted by: " debbie " debbieellison06@... debbieellison06

Hi, playing back and forth with the dosage of HC is not good.For a

lot of people 5 mgs. 4 times a day works. This is not for

everybody.Have you been tested?You need to know when your high and

when you low. Taking HC at times when you don't need it is not a good

thing.LOL

Debbie

[Guest guest]

I really don't know what triggered it - maybe I had too much iodine? Is the

Atkins diet high in iodine? Is there a lot of iodine in cheese?

Maybe it was bound to happen anyways, but psychologically I'm traumitized by

it despite EVERYONE saying that avoiding sugars and starchy carbs is really the

way to go when you have these health issues.

SAMMIE

NOVAexeter@... wrote:

In a message dated 28/03/2007 00:08:06 GMT Daylight Time,

jigscam@...

writes:

Morning

Yeah, my experience with Atkins wasn't like that. Terrible terrible fatigue,

headaches, constipation, feeling horrid,

Sounds like your candida was dying off.

I am feeling so awful, anyway, at the moment, that I probably would not

notice.

But your response sounds severe which is why I would suspect candida

die-off. Certainly the fatigue and particularly the headache which speaks of

toxins

don't you think? I had aheadache for 6 weeks on the candida diet.

The constipation I think is warned about in the Atkins book. This is simply

a response to eat hardly any fibre in the first two weeks. I counter that with

lots of magnesium.

then 30 days later woke up with Grave's Eye disease, but wasn't diagnoses

until month later. I still believe something in that diet triggered it.

Imagine, waking up with a disfigured face after committing to a diet so

strictly. I

feel like I was punished.

I don't know anything I am afraid abiut Graves. How did you think the diet

triggered this Sammie?

Mo

www.NOVACounselling.com

[Guest guest]

yeah - i wish i could get up that early! i could get so much accomplished!

honestly, i dont even know the last time i got up at 6am. probably 1997-1998

and i'm not even kidding. and only because i had a job where i sometimes had to

be at work at 7am.

right now i'm getting up at 8-8:30am. but i can't get to sleep until 12-1am

if i'm lucky with my high nighttime cortisol.

SAMMIE

wrote:

I didn't know people with adrenal fatigue could get up at 6 am--LOL! I

don't start my first dose until 8:30-9:00, because that's when I get

up. Could that be causing a problem with my cortisol rhythm?

>

> >>6 a.m. 10 mg

> 10 a.m. 5 mg

> 2 p.m. 2.5 mg

> 9-10 p.m. 2.5 mg

>

> Does that look okay, even though I would be going from 2 until 9 in

between doses<<

>

> Yes usually at that time of day we don;t need much cortisol and most

people can go through the evening hours without a dose.

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yeah - i wish i could get up that early! i could get so much accomplished!

honestly, i dont even know the last time i got up at 6am. probably 1997-1998

and i'm not even kidding. and only because i had a job where i sometimes had to

be at work at 7am.

right now i'm getting up at 8-8:30am. but i can't get to sleep until 12-1am

if i'm lucky with my high nighttime cortisol.

SAMMIE

wrote:

I didn't know people with adrenal fatigue could get up at 6 am--LOL! I

don't start my first dose until 8:30-9:00, because that's when I get

up. Could that be causing a problem with my cortisol rhythm?

>

> >>6 a.m. 10 mg

> 10 a.m. 5 mg

> 2 p.m. 2.5 mg

> 9-10 p.m. 2.5 mg

>

> Does that look okay, even though I would be going from 2 until 9 in

between doses<<

>

> Yes usually at that time of day we don;t need much cortisol and most

people can go through the evening hours without a dose.

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[Guest guest]

yeah - i wish i could get up that early! i could get so much accomplished!

honestly, i dont even know the last time i got up at 6am. probably 1997-1998

and i'm not even kidding. and only because i had a job where i sometimes had to

be at work at 7am.

right now i'm getting up at 8-8:30am. but i can't get to sleep until 12-1am

if i'm lucky with my high nighttime cortisol.

SAMMIE

wrote:

I didn't know people with adrenal fatigue could get up at 6 am--LOL! I

don't start my first dose until 8:30-9:00, because that's when I get

up. Could that be causing a problem with my cortisol rhythm?

>

> >>6 a.m. 10 mg

> 10 a.m. 5 mg

> 2 p.m. 2.5 mg

> 9-10 p.m. 2.5 mg

>

> Does that look okay, even though I would be going from 2 until 9 in

between doses<<

>

> Yes usually at that time of day we don;t need much cortisol and most

people can go through the evening hours without a dose.

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Maybe the low carb diet triggered die-off symptoms that stimulated the Grave's

antibodies???

That's all I can think of. But you are right, eating low carb and low sugar

is so important. I'm working on it. Right now, I'm trying to research more

about Candigest Plus and similar items that could help me with the die-off

symptoms. I've also joined another group.

I think it's interesting that many of us have candida issues.

SAMMIE

NOVAexeter@... wrote:

In a message dated 28/03/2007 19:32:58 GMT Daylight Time, jigscam@...

writes:

I really don't know what triggered it - maybe I had too much iodine? Is the

Atkins diet high in iodine? Is there a lot of iodine in cheese?

Maybe it was bound to happen anyways, but psychologically I'm traumitized by

it despite EVERYONE saying that avoiding sugars and starchy carbs is really

the way to go when you have these health issues.

Sammie

I wouldnot have thought the Atkins diet was high in iodine unless you were

eating ginormous amounts of fish. Don't know about cheese. I am on the

induction phase right now and cannot have any cheese. Just protein and salad.

Avoiding sugars and starchy carbs is the way to go for a healthy life

really. Not just to help us out when we are unwell.

Maybe you could ease yourself off the worst of the carbs at this time? Lose

the bread would be a good start I am thinking. See how you go?

Mo

www.NOVACounselling.com

[Guest guest]

I am up every day by usually 5AM but i I am really tired or get to bed

late it might be 6AM. I haven't slept later than tht in years unless i

was dead to the world sick.,

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