Re: MRI report

December 26, 2007

Dear Kate,

There are plenty of solid reasons well documented in this report

to explain why you are in pain! No doubt about it; this is real.

Do not let anyone call YOU a " chronic complainer, " ever!

I think you have a very good physician and radiologist!

Love,

n wMS, chronic disc-vertebral disease, arthritis, spine in

cluded, etc.

>

> Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report,

> but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine

> report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc

> height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present

> at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present

> L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc

> disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions

> bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes,

> but those are the 'big' ones.

> I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts?

>

> We can only be said to be alive in those moments

> when our hearts are conscious of our treasures.

> ~Thornton Wilder

>

December 26, 2007

Kate, No wonder why you are in so much pain. What did the Dr. suggest you do about all this or if anything? You have a lot going on with your lumbar spine. Hugs, :)Kate Rothschild wrote: Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they

are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones. I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts? We can only be said to be alive in those momentswhen our hearts are conscious of our treasures.~Thornton Wilder Peace, Love and Hugs, D.

December 26, 2007

Can you run that by me again...in English? Hugs Akiba -- MRI report Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones. I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts? We can only be said to be alive in those momentswhen our hearts are conscious of our treasures.~Thornton Wilder

December 26, 2007

Yikes I don't understand most of this. Will be anxious to know what all of it means. I have degenerative disc disease so know that but thats about it. You remain in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones.

I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts?

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December 26, 2007

Hi Kate~ I really don't understand any of that. But, a couple of things did make me curious. Like for instance, what is a an annular disc bulge? Where is it located? I do know that a buldging disc of any kind has to be very painful. I'm keeping you in my prayers. And I hope you aren't in too much pain. I hope you had a very Merry Christmas!! Love and blessings... Val Kate Rothschild

wrote: Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3

degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones. I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts? We can only be said to be alive in those momentswhen our hearts are conscious of our treasures.~Thornton Wilder Euphemisms are unpleasant truths wearing diplomatic cologne. ~Quentin Crisp~

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December 26, 2007

a bulging disk is the jelly is coming out - in a jello form - not liquid - have one of those and a protrusion too

Re: MRI report

Hi Kate~

I really don't understand any of that. But, a couple of things did make me curious. Like for instance, what is a an annular disc bulge? Where is it located? I do know that a buldging disc of any kind has to be very painful.

I'm keeping you in my prayers. And I hope you aren't in too much pain.

I hope you had a very Merry Christmas!!

Love and blessings...

Val Kate ! Rothschild <katelloydkidzoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones.

I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts?

We can only be said to be alive in those momentswhen our hearts are conscious of our treasures.~Thornton Wilder

Euphemisms are unpleasant truths wearing diplomatic cologne. ~Quentin Crisp~

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December 27, 2007

kate,

(((HUGS))) It all sounds very scary to me. What did the dr. say about all of it? I can't stand all the medical jargon, I think they should have to put it in plain English when they hand us the report, it is OUR bodies we're talking about after all.

It sounds painful, I know that. I'm sorry for that part. Is there anything else they can do for the pain? Not that you want another medicine to have to worry about, Lord knows.

Please let me know if there is anything we can do for you, ok? is back down that way and is working days and has his cell with him and gets out at 3 unless he works overtime so if you need him for ANYTHING please call ok??

Big soft teddy bear hugs

Peggy

>> Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones.> I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts?> > > > We can only be said to be alive in those moments> when our hearts are conscious of our treasures.> ~Thornton Wilder>

December 28, 2007

Thanks Peggy! {{{hugs}}} back at ya! It mainly is

really, really painful. Last night at my guitar

practice, and n, do you mean you play Class-

ical music, or a classical guitar? I have a huge folk

guitar, I'll try and send a pic sometime. Anyways,

at practice I brought along my lumbar support pillow,

as standing has become too painful, so I sit and play

and sing. I consider myself more of a singer than a

guitarist, but I sure do consider doing both. It was a

challenge to be there 2 and a half hours practicing

for this Sunday's service.

Today I go to see my 'person'--Annie. I love her. She is

a PT, and does all sorts of other things--mainly cranial

sacral therapy, however what I love most, is she takes

the whole of you into consideration. She takes in your

emotional, spiritual, physical. She spends 90 minutes

at a time with me. Now how many folks do THAT?

On Jan. 8, I go back to the neurosurgeon who did my

Gamma Knife on my TN, and I am to fax the report and

bring the 'disk' of my 'disc'!! rofl!! lol! I am really hoping

he can give me an injection to settle down the pain. As it

is, I've been taking zanaflex (alot) and today I read online

that, guess what--it can cause depression, anxiety,

psychosis (which I was hospitalized with recently) as well

as:BACK PAIN! Go figure...what's a person to do? And of

course, my neuro is away til about Jan. 7.

Right now, my husband is not working. He has the usual

gig at the County Center in White Plains on New Years

Eve, when Westchester County hosts a HUGE non-alcoholic

party. They have like 5 or 6 rooms--big ones, each with their

own themes--of decorations and music: rock, jazz, and so

forth. My hub is back to his ways though--the pot and the

drinking. So, separation seems very much on the horizon. It

is such a tight and tough place to be in. If/when my husband

goes back to work, it might be helpful to have come

over and help me with some chores if that is ok. I'd pay him

of course--if he won't accept $, then I'd make a big meal that

he could bring on up to you and family.

You and he are sweethearts, and I'm blessed to know you, and

so very blessed to be part of this amazing group. I love you each

and all, Kate

m---- Original Message -----

From: Peggy

To: MSersLife

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:29 PM

Subject: Re: MRI report

kate,

(((HUGS))) It all sounds very scary to me. What did the dr. say about all of it? I can't stand all the medical jargon, I think they should have to put it in plain English when they hand us the report, it is OUR bodies we're talking about after all.

It sounds painful, I know that. I'm sorry for that part. Is there anything else they can do for the pain? Not that you want another medicine to have to worry about, Lord knows.

Please let me know if there is anything we can do for you, ok? is back down that way and is working days and has his cell with him and gets out at 3 unless he works overtime so if you need him for ANYTHING please call ok??

Big soft teddy bear hugs

Peggy

>> Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones.> I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts?> > > > We can only be said to be alive in those moments> when our hearts are conscious of our treasures.> ~Thornton Wilder>

December 28, 2007

Kate,

I have to say that for someone who is in so much pain you sure do live a full life. I do absolutely nothing. I feel like a slug, lol!!! Today I took Zack to Toys R Us to spend a gift card he got from 's brother that we have decided to cut out of our lives since he threatened to call the police on us because we "stole from him and took HIS FATHERS things out of the house that were HIS". I guess the rest of us deserved nothing even though he mooched off of both of them for most of his loser life and so did his girlfriend. We took small items except for the two rifles or shotguns that wanted. He actually wanted the gun cabinet but told him he couldn't have that.

So the kids recieved their Christmas gifts in the mail yesterday from him, each a gift card, 's to the mall and Zack's to the toy store. They weren't included in Christmas with his side of the family. His sister was and her kids but not us or ours. I didn't expect us to be included but don't do that to our kids, they don't deserve that. Grow up already, you're 48 years old. What's worse is now his sister who had been saying all along that she wasn't going to take care of her dead beat brother is now taking care of him and is on his side. She had ample time to call and include her niece and nephew but didn't. Her excuse, "I don't want to be in the middle". What a crock of crap. She hasn't been out of the middle of anything since the day I've met her. GGGGRRRR, I'm so angry, can you tell!!!??

I'm done with the lot of them. I told she has to decide for herself whether she wants to continue her relationship with them as she is going to be 18 in a couple of weeks. She has chosen not to be in their lives as well for right now anyways. They broke her heart. Christmas was very hard this year. His sister actually thought should call his brother to invite ourselves to dinner. Why should he do that? It wasn't us having the dinner, it wasn't us who threatened to call the police on him, it wasn't us who thought that we deserved everything in that house. Oh well, it's their loss. Sorry, off on a tangent, can you tell I'm pissed off just a tiny bit? LOL!!!

You will NOT pay for anything he does for you. He is happy to help, he would never take it even if you did offer anyway. If you would like to make him a meal to share with you all, he'd probably appreciate that since he is a little depressed about being there and away from home. It's starting to take it's toll on him. It's getting harder and harder for him to leave and go back each time.

Your husband sounds like his brother alot and that's scary. Do you think that this is part of his coping mechanism for your MS? I know it's not a good way to deal with it but did he have this problem before you got married or before you were diagnosed? I'm surprised he is doing pot. Isn't he subject to drug tests in his job? You'd think being in a union he would be. He is in a union right? Why is he out of work, the holidays? I thought this was the busiest time of year for the shows. I hope he at least is keeping that habit out of the house and away from the kids. The being drunk is bad enough but smoking pot, definately not acceptable with kids around. He needs help for sure. He won't see a counselor or go to any meetings? Does he know he may lose you and the kids unless he does something to change his ways? I would sit him down, give him a choice and a time limit and stick to it, don't back down, don't buy into the tears or the "it's your fault" blame game. He does this to himself and he chooses to continue down this road. You are trying to save him, to help him, which is a hell of a lot more than he is doing for you, his kids, or himself.

Watch those medicines and remember to call any time, even if you need help with your hubby. He has alot of experience with that. He grew up in that type of home life, plus working in the prison for 18 years. He'll be at your house in a flash!!! OK? We are worried about you and the kids and it would eat him up inside if he knew he was right down the road from you and something happened and he couldn't help you. Promise me you will call him. Tell your husband he is married to one of your friends from online who works down there at the prison if that will make it better and then he can come and get that hallway painted for you. Then maybe he can guilt your husband into helping him at least. Maybe my hubby can even talk some sense into him since my hubby hasn't had a drink in years. Maybe it's fate, kismet? Who knows???

Whatever you think is best and you're more comfortable with, you know your hubby best and I don't want it to get worse for you at home that's for sure.

I'm glad you have a great PT. It sure does help when their is someone who is willing to go above and beyond their job and takes a special interest in you and making sure you feel better. Sometimes its all you need to know to make you want to fight harder and have hope to get through the day.

Remember, please send me your address to my personal email so I can send you a card I have been waiting to send and then I can give your address too!!!!!

Love ya

Peggy> >> > Ok folks...I won't bore you with all the details, as is quite a long report, but some of the highlights, or at least I think they are, of my lumbar spine report. Small hemangiomas within L3 and L4 vertebral sgments..T11-T12 disc height slightly narrowed, disc desiccation. Endplate Schmori's nodes present at T12. Annular disc buldge. Facet joint degenerative arthritis present L1-L2 and mild hypertrophy of the ligamentum flavum. L2-L3 degenerative disc disease... Facet joint degenerative changes are severe with small effusions bilaterally. Hypertrophy of ligamentum flavum....There are some other notes, but those are the 'big' ones.> > I just know I'm in pain... Any thoughts?> > > > > > > > We can only be said to be alive in those moments> > when our hearts are conscious of our treasures.> > ~Thornton Wilder> >>

December 28, 2007

Peggy! I am so very sorry for all the grief within your family! You have

every right to be quite angry and pissed off, and vent like crazy sister!

I think the world of you. You are a sweetheart; both you and .

I don't recall his cell number. My home address is:

6 Spaulding Place

Ossining, NY 10562

(914) 618. 0060 is my cell. I don't mind posting this here, we all are

friends, and I trust everyone.

My husband says is always welcome! I just made a big pot of

cream of cauliflower soup which I have to say, came out real good. I

put orzo, carrots, red onion, red pepper and cauliflower of course with

chicken broth, and a touch of cream. Yum. I have plenty left, and could

make him a big bowl and a sandwich to go with. Tell him to come on

down, we even have room for him to sleep over if he'd like a change

of scenery. What are his hours there?

I think I am the cause of more problems than anyone here. I am just not

who I should be, and have much to improve on with myself, and giving

to my husband and my kids. I am feeling quite odd tonight . One good thing

is I that the cranial sacral person did a lot of work on me today, and got

things 'moving' as she calls it. I was hung up--in my back, my intestines,

all over the place. My back is bad again now, but she put the Alpha Stim

on my earlobes, which probably sounds quite bizarre, but she said it

is supposed to help with depression and insomnia.

I think so often of death. I know I should not, my mind just floats to it on

a frequent basis. I think I'm just stuck with this marriage. It just will be

what it will be. Thanks for writing. love you, Kate