Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 your son sounds exactly like mine before he started to get well. what type if diet is he on?what brand/type are the probiotics?does he take any antivirals/antifungals, etc?MB12?you mentioned issues w/constipation.. how often is he stooling??? (stooling, AT LEAST, once at day is optimal for our kids, so that they can detox, etc.,) when he does stool, how are they? (color, consistancy, undigested food?)do you do.. Epsom salt baths?? support the liver, etc.,?? Sent from my iPhone Hi all. I'm very thankful for this group and your wealth of experience. I am new to the group and don't know where to start. my son Zach is 7 yrs old with high Functioning Autism and global apraxia. He receives speech, OT, social skills group therapy. I give him the following supplements: fish oil (nordic naturals/or moxxor), calcium/mag/zinc, houston enxymes, probiotics and melatonin at bedtime for sleep. He has many motor planning issues and has come a long way with speech. He really needs help with his behaviors: melt downs, impulsive, loud, doesn't get personal space, agressive, grumpy, etc. His face looks alittle pale and has always had some redness around the eyes since he was born. We had him tested by an allergist for food allergies- all were negative. he has some issues with constipation. He stimms by humming and pacing. Does it matter where I start? Do I change to cod liver oil first? To I start with his diet? Do i remove the enzymes? Do i start giving olive leaf extract? Any advice or direction/resource is greatly appreciated. Thank you all. Tillie is Huntington Beach, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Buckley's book, just out last year is a great, clear description of one way of thinking about bio med. Jepson, McCandless, and Bock all have great books which will give you really solid understanding. I also like an old book by Pangborn and Baker. I have appreciated working with a DAN that I feel I have a good partnership with, in healing my child. Alison M New to group- Where do i start? Hi all. I'm very thankful for this group and your wealth of experience.I am new to the group and don't know where to start. my son Zach is 7 yrs old with high Functioning Autism and global apraxia. He receives speech, OT, social skills group therapy. I give him the following supplements: fish oil (nordic naturals/or moxxor), calcium/mag/zinc, houston enxymes, probiotics and melatonin at bedtime for sleep. He has many motor planning issues and has come a long way with speech. He really needs help with his behaviors: melt downs, impulsive, loud, doesn't get personal space, agressive, grumpy, etc. His face looks alittle pale and has always had some redness around the eyes since he was born. We had him tested by an allergist for food allergies- all were negative. he has some issues with constipation. He stimms by humming and pacing.Does it matter where I start? Do I change to cod liver oil first? To I start with his diet? Do i remove the enzymes? Do i start giving olive leaf extract?Any advice or direction/resource is greatly appreciated.Thank you all.Tillie is Huntington Beach, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 hope for the autism spectrum by sally kirk great!also let me hear your voice Subject: Re: New to group- Where do i start?To: mb12 valtrex Received: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:02 AM Buckley's book, just out last year is a great, clear description of one way of thinking about bio med. Jepson, McCandless, and Bock all have great books which will give you really solid understanding. I also like an old book by Pangborn and Baker. I have appreciated working with a DAN that I feel I have a good partnership with, in healing my child. Alison M New to group- Where do i start? Hi all. I'm very thankful for this group and your wealth of experience.I am new to the group and don't know where to start. my son Zach is 7 yrs old with high Functioning Autism and global apraxia. He receives speech, OT, social skills group therapy. I give him the following supplements: fish oil (nordic naturals/or moxxor), calcium/mag/ zinc, houston enxymes, probiotics and melatonin at bedtime for sleep. He has many motor planning issues and has come a long way with speech. He really needs help with his behaviors: melt downs, impulsive, loud, doesn't get personal space, agressive, grumpy, etc. His face looks alittle pale and has always had some redness around the eyes since he was born. We had him tested by an allergist for food allergies- all were negative. he has some issues with constipation. He stimms by humming and pacing.Does it matter where I start? Do I change to cod liver oil first? To I start with his diet? Do i remove the enzymes? Do i start giving olive leaf extract?Any advice or direction/resource is greatly appreciated.Thank you all.Tillie is Huntington Beach, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Here's what I would do if I was starting all over again. 1. Even though child did not test positive for food allergies, I would remove all gluten, casein, and soy to see if there was a difference. (and I mean all traces.. not a spec or morsel of derivitive of) Then after 6 months, I would retest for food allergies. Lots of these kids go allergic to corn and egg.. or are intollerant of them. It's something to remember. If you are making progress, and things fall back to where they were, it is usually a new food intolerance or a bad food infraction. My kid is GFCFSF, corn, egg, quinoa, peanut free too. After 3 years of this, we are now adding back in some corn derivitives which allow him to eat more variety... (Xanthum gum, ascorbic acid, citric acid) We use trienza too... keep him on that even with the diet... 2. I would test for heavy metals using a provoked urine test. It is the only test that insurance companies use to allow coverage for chelation. We toyed around with hair and porphyrine first and it only delayed things. 3. Get to a metabolics expert and have a complete metabolics workup done. 4. Head to a GI doctor and get an organic acid test, a comprehenseive stool exam... We had to get our own tests done before we were allowed to see the GI doctor. 5. The order in which we added in supplements was good for us,, codliver, then epsom salt baths, the C, the D, E, then calcium/mag... ours are all allergen free including corn. 6. Be sure to journal everything, keep a video log, ask all teachers to write up reports on progress for better or worse 7. Anytime you see something for better or worse, you get into the ped and let them see it with their own eyes. Take pictures of poops or deliver stinky specimens when needed. Take notes at every doctors visit and always make sure someone else is there as witness if you are tyring to get coverage and they are telling you no. 8. After you have all the proof you need that your child is sick, you go after insurance for being negligent for anything they are not covering.,,, This has all worked out very nice for us. My son recovered from his quirkiness after implementing diet. He never received a label, and I think that is why we were able to get as far as we have medically. His chelation is covered! We can see that his immune system is recovering too. We have been blessed, but we fought hard to get where we are. If your child gets a label, your insurance will continue to use it as an excuse to not cover y our child's medical needs. Good luck in your adventures. > > Hi all. I'm very thankful for this group and your wealth of experience. > > I am new to the group and don't know where to start. my son Zach is 7 yrs old with high Functioning Autism and global apraxia. He receives speech, OT, social skills group therapy. I give him the following supplements: fish oil (nordic naturals/or moxxor), calcium/mag/zinc, houston enxymes, probiotics and melatonin at bedtime for sleep. He has many motor planning issues and has come a long way with speech. He really needs help with his behaviors: melt downs, impulsive, loud, doesn't get personal space, agressive, grumpy, etc. His face looks alittle pale and has always had some redness around the eyes since he was born. We had him tested by an allergist for food allergies- all were negative. he has some issues with constipation. He stimms by humming and pacing. > > Does it matter where I start? Do I change to cod liver oil first? To I start with his diet? Do i remove the enzymes? Do i start giving olive leaf extract? > > Any advice or direction/resource is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you all. > Tillie is Huntington Beach, CA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Hi Tillie, What I know about behavior issues is that they can be moderated with diet. try the GFCF Diet. My son was a totally different kid only 3 days into the diet! that was 2 and half years ago when he was first diagnosed. from my experience the cleaner the food you give him the better his well being will be therefore his behavior. The gut is the 2nd brain, when its healed the brain will heal. Good Luck! Rania > > > Subject: Re: New to group- Where do i start? > To: mb12 valtrex > Received: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:02 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Buckley's book, just out last year is a great, clear description of one way of thinking about bio med. Jepson, McCandless, and Bock all have great books which will give you really solid understanding. I also like an old book by Pangborn and Baker. I have appreciated working with a DAN that I feel I have a good partnership with, in healing my child. Alison M > > New to group- Where do i start? > > > > > > Â Hi all. I'm very thankful for this group and your wealth of experience. > > > I am new to the group and don't know where to start. my son Zach is 7 yrs old with high Functioning Autism and global apraxia. He receives speech, OT, social skills group therapy. I give him the following supplements: fish oil (nordic naturals/or moxxor), calcium/mag/ zinc, houston enxymes, probiotics and melatonin at bedtime for sleep. He has many motor planning issues and has come a long way with speech. He really needs help with his behaviors: melt downs, impulsive, loud, doesn't get personal space, agressive, grumpy, etc. His face looks alittle pale and has always had some redness around the eyes since he was born. We had him tested by an allergist for food allergies- all were negative. he has some issues with constipation. He stimms by humming and pacing. > > > Does it matter where I start? Do I change to cod liver oil first? To I start with his diet? Do i remove the enzymes? Do i start giving olive leaf extract? > > > Any advice or direction/resource is greatly appreciated. > > > Thank you all. > > Tillie is Huntington Beach, CA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Thanks so much for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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