Re: Healthy for Everyone?

[Guest guest]

Yep, lots of people who don't "need" to do it, do it. For example, Elaine Gottschall and her husband! They did it for seven years only in solidarity with their daughter. They enjoyed it and found it very healthful. Definitely a healthy diet.My son and I make up our family and we follow it together I originally put him alone on it (I ate SCD at home, but also ate out a couple of times a week.) But when I saw his results, I went for it too!Baden

[Guest guest]

At 09:02 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:

Or is the SCD healthy enough for

even the healthy people?

You better believe it!

My husband has a perfectly normal gut (well, if you call the ability to

eat 6000 calories a day on a desk job and not gain an ounce NORMAL!!) and

loves SCD food.

His cholesterol had been edging up with age. On SCD, it dropped 40

points.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My husband has CD as well and I am fine. We don't have children but my younger sisters live with us and we all do SCD. My sisters are not 100%. They eat SCD when at home but eat other things when they're out with friends. I do the diet 100% along with my husband. It's a healthy diet for anyone and I certainly haven't had any ill effects from being on it. In fact, it allows me to easily maintain a healthy weight which has been a struggle for me most of my life. I've always been "on a diet" trying to loose weight. Now, for the most part, I can eat what I want, when I want (legal foods only, of course) and am able to maintain a healthy weight.

Best wishes,

Kim H.

husband, , CD 1999

SCD 2002

Healthy for Everyone?

My husband has Crohn's. My 1 year old is perfectly healthy as am I. Yet it seems easier to have all of us on this diet. I'm sure our lack of sugar isn't going to hurt us a bit. But what about the grains? Should I make sure my child and I continue to eat whole grains? Or is the SCD healthy enough for even the healthy people? So far I feel fantastic. My daughter is enjoying everything we give her. Today, for example, we had Mango chicken for Dinner and a piece of SCD legal cake and some blackberries for dessert. How can this be bad for her or me? I guess I'm wondering if this nagging and lingering worry of what's 'normal' is just the old thoughts we've been fed about diet. Or is it harmful to have my daughter and I eliminating all of those whole grains?I'm also curious to know how many families follow the SCD together?

[Guest guest]

My son and I are the only ones with celiac in our home, but I have put our home

on the diet.

My daughter has some eczema issues and I'm hoping this will help. My dh eats

out on the

road but at home, there's nothing to eat but SCD.

The one problem I'm running into is keeping everyone full. I have 4 children

and a dh that

has a big appetite. If I don't make it, there's nothing to eat but fruit. But

my daughter is

going through 4 nectarines a day and is still hungry.

This morning I made waffles, but they could only have one--that was one batch.

I'm learning that I need to double recipes to feed our family. I am hoping that

none of my

children loses weight. They don't have alot to begin with. I, on the other

hand, have not lost

weight. And that is a little frustrating to me.

This is our experience for what it's worth. We've been doing SCD for a few

weeks now,

sometimes imperfectly, and are hoping to get the hang of it soon.

Blessings,

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty,I find that I have to double or even triple recipes, especially if I want to have leftovers. I think some of these recipes are only meant for one person. My husband eats a lot too. He prefers meat. I have to nag to get him to eat some vegetables or sneak them in with a stir-fry, casserole, soup, etc. It's like having a child sometimes....I can't get him to eat his veggies ;-) I make a lot of meat. We got a smoker for Christmas and that was the best gift ever. I use it all the time. I mostly do chicken because that's his favorite. He eats more chicken than I ever imagined a person could. I do burgers, steaks, chops, ribs, etc on the grill. I cook in batches. I'll smoke 10-15 lbs of chicken at a time or make

several lbs. worth of burgers at a time. This way, I'm not cooking all

the time and there's always food around.

About weight...if I remember correctly, you haven't been on the diet very long, right? It took at least a few months before I even lost a pound but after that, it came off pretty easy. It's quite a bit of work cooking this way for a family of four but I think it would be even more work and more confusing trying to cook one way for some people and another way for the rest. Plus, you have the issue of those on the diet being jealous of what the others are eating and I just prefer not to have illegals in the house. That way there is no confusion for on what he can and can't have. If it's in the house, he can have it. Best wishes,Kim H.husband, , CD 1999SCD 2002 Re: Healthy for Everyone?My son and I are the only ones with celiac in our home, but I have put our home on the diet.

My daughter has some eczema issues and I'm hoping this will help. My dh eats out on the

road but at home, there's nothing to eat but SCD.

The one problem I'm running into is keeping everyone full. I have 4 children and a dh that

has a big appetite. If I don't make it, there's nothing to eat but fruit. But my daughter is

going through 4 nectarines a day and is still hungry.

This morning I made waffles, but they could only have one--that was one batch.

I'm learning that I need to double recipes to feed our family. I am hoping that none of my

children loses weight. They don't have alot to begin with. I, on the other hand, have not lost

weight. And that is a little frustrating to me.

This is our experience for what it's worth. We've been doing SCD for a few weeks now,

sometimes imperfectly, and are hoping to get the hang of it soon.

Blessings,

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn. Does your husband only eat SCD foods?

I am trying to encourage my husband to go on SCD. He is willing to eat the

SCD foods that I/we prepare, but he isn't ready to give up the " illegal "

foods. He is especially concerned about how he would find SCD-compatible

foods at restaurants. Since his consulting work often includes meals with

clients, this is a problem.

As far as I can tell, there are no SCD-compatible restaurants in Toronto,

Ontario, Canada. If anybody knows otherwise, please advise me. So far, the

only place I have been advised of for buying any safe take-out food is Whole

Foods, which sells some SCD-legal rotisserie roasted chickens. But there

don't seem to be many other SCD-legal prepared food choices at Whole Foods.

I don't mind not eating at restaurants. Before I started on SCD, there were

only a few restaurants in this city that I could find allergy-free food

choices at anyway. But I preferred take-out rather than eating in the

restaurants, because of my multiple chemical sensitivities. Being served by

staff wearing fragrances, or being seated next to scented people or people

with tobacco residue could easily ruin a meal for me.

My husband doesn't suffer from any digestive disorders, but he is carrying

too much weight, especially around his waist. From what my doctors have told

me, excess fat in that area increases the probability of developing

diabetes, heart failure, or stroke. I love my husband, and I want to help

prevent those problems.

I am also prone to carrying excess weight around my waist. However, I have

been losing weight on SCD and will likely have a healthy waist size within 3

months, if I maintain my current average of 2 lb/week loss, or by the end of

the year if the rate drops to 1 lb/week.

One doctor told me that there has been some research on dysbiosis and

obesity. I haven't followed up on that. But that would suggest that my

weight loss is due not to limiting the amount of carbohydrates I eat, but

rather the result of killing off the bad bacteria in my system. In that

case, it seems to me that it is necessary to follow SCD strictly, as I have

been doing, in order to lose fat. If that is the case, then eating partly

SCD and partly not illegal foods would not cause weight loss.

I am curious about how your husband manages on SCD.

Thanks.

Ellen in Toronto

SCD since March 17, 2008, but unable to calculate the number of weeks

elapsed

" Wizop Marilyn L. Alm " wrote:

To: <BTVC-SCD >

At 09:02 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:

>Or is the SCD healthy enough for even the healthy people?

You better believe it!

My husband has a perfectly normal gut (well, if

you call the ability to eat 6000 calories a day

on a desk job and not gain an ounce NORMAL!!) and loves SCD food.

His cholesterol had been edging up with age. On SCD, it dropped 40 points.

- Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Ellen,

There is research being done at Pennington, in Baton Rouge, on gut

dysbiosis and obesity. Unfortunately, I don't have the $400 to be tested.

But since I lost 180 pounds on SCD, I think I can safely say that

changing your gut flora can affect your weight. In general, my

observation is people who need to gain weight end up doing so, and people

who need to lose weight, ditto.

My husband is one of those despicable entities who is skinny as the

proverbial rail. Same waist size today as he had 32 years ago when we

were married. No apparent gut issues, although he does deal with chronic

fatigue as a result of post-mono in 1992.

Harry eats all SCD foods here at home with two exceptions: hot dog buns,

and sandwich bread. (Hot dogs themselves are SCD.) I don't bother with

buns for either hot dogs or hamburgers, so don't usually make SCD-legal

ones. Harry likes buns, so he buys them, but keeps them in one corner.

He's given up hamburger buns at home because the bison burgers I've been

making are so tasty. He also takes a sandwich which is all SCD except for

the bread it is on -- homemade mustard, homemade chicken salad or ham

salad or turkey salad, or cheese to work. When we eat out, I order SCD;

he orders what he wants.

The first three or four years I was SCD, he did not eat these and ate

100% SCD. After Hurricane Katrina, when legal food was tough to come by,

he slipped into eating a few illegals here and a few there in order to

make sure there was enough legal food available for me.

He has, however, found that the less grains he eats, the less his fatigue

syndrome bothers him. In addition, his cholesterol was edging up, and on

SCD, it dropped.

Before I went SCD, he used to have toasted cheese sandwiches for

breakfast. He discovered he had less fatigue if he had cheese slices and

pecans. One of these days, I may get him to give up the last of his

grains, and if his mom were alive, she'd stare, because Harry used to eat

a couple cups of rice with every dinner, waffles for breakfast, a couple

of sandwiches and chips for lunch, etc.

I can sympathize on the perfumes and the smoke. There are very few

restaurants that I go to because, despite New Orleans being a city of

wonderful food, most of it is SCD-illegal. We do go out for burgers on

Saturday night, but the rest of the time we eat in.

Sunday:

Roast Chicken and Green Beans

Monday

Bison Burgers with Cheese and Chopped Spinach

Tuesday:

Beef and Broccoli Pie

Wednesday:

Leftover Roast Chicken and Green Beans

Thursday:

Cheesy Hot Dogs and homemade mustard and homemade refrigerator

dills

Friday

Grilled Flounder topped with Grilled Shrimps

Butternut mock " sweet potatoes "

You'll notice how simple we keep it....

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

I have 4 children and a husband and work full time with travel. We do SCD for my daughter (17) with UC. She is finding relief with a combination of SCD and drugs (altho we'd love to eventually eliminate the drugs). I was overwhelmed initially with all the cooking, but I do find it a little easier as time goes on. The SCD food is becoming a family favorite, but I do frequently add rice/bread/tortillas/potatos for the nonSCD individuals when I cook. I love the SCD cookbooks and have found some quick favorites as well as some modified favorites that I can whip up. When all else fails, I cook a chicken breast, some veggies and a fruit smoothie for my daughter while the rest of the group eats as desired. Usually tho, they're begging me to fry a chicken breast for them as well. Check out http://nomorecrohns.com/default.aspx for ideas for mixing SCD with non SCD people. It can be done, altho I am more and more inclined to believe we all benefit more from the SCD part of our diet. I am sure I am feeding the whole family healthier since beginning SCD. Most people seem to introduce food slowly and I'm sure that works best if you can. My daughter simply wasn't willing to be that patient and I would have lost her in the process if I'd gone too slow. After 7 months (with occasional illegals) she is still so much better than before SCD and even she is beginning to realize the aftereffects of nonSCD foods. So, my advice is to do the best you can ... don't kill yourself over mistakes and don't be afraid to add fillers for the nonSCD people in your family if it makes it easier. Good luck.

Teri

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Thanks for the great responses, everyone. The longer I'm on the SCD

the more I feel it's beneficial to me and my daughter as well. I have

struggled with weight all my life. I've already lost some weight but

more importantly, I am like a new person. I don't remember ever

having this much energy. And what can be bad about feeling my

daughter so many fruits, veggies, protiens that I prepare myself from

scratch?

Thanks again.

Maureen

http://www.healingthecrow.blogspot.com/

>

> I have 4 children and a husband and work full time with travel. We

do SCD

> for my daughter (17) with UC. She is finding relief with a

combination of

> SCD and drugs (altho we'd love to eventually eliminate the drugs).

I was

> overwhelmed initially with all the cooking, but I do find it a

little easier

> as time goes on. The SCD food is becoming a family favorite, but I

do

> frequently add rice/bread/tortillas/potatos for the nonSCD

individuals when

> I cook. I love the SCD cookbooks and have found some quick

favorites as

> well as some modified favorites that I can whip up. When all else

fails, I

> cook a chicken breast, some veggies and a fruit smoothie for my

daughter

> while the rest of the group eats as desired. Usually tho, they're

begging

> me to fry a chicken breast for them as well. Check out

> http://nomorecrohns.com/default.aspx for ideas for mixing SCD with

non SCD

> people. It can be done, altho I am more and more inclined to

believe we all

> benefit more from the SCD part of our diet. I am sure I am feeding

the

> whole family healthier since beginning SCD. Most people seem to

introduce

> food slowly and I'm sure that works best if you can. My daughter

simply

> wasn't willing to be that patient and I would have lost her in the

process

> if I'd gone too slow. After 7 months (with occasional illegals)

she is

> still so much better than before SCD and even she is beginning to

realize

> the aftereffects of nonSCD foods. So, my advice is to do the best

you can

> ... don't kill yourself over mistakes and don't be afraid to add

fillers for

> the nonSCD people in your family if it makes it easier. Good luck.

>

> Teri

>