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When I was dx'd with t2 about 4.5 yrs ago my doc put me on glyburide

and it worked very well. Within about 3 months my levels were all

normal. I asked if I could go off meds and he said ok, you can try

it, but you need to make sure you exercise and eat as best you can.

So I did, I walked a lot, every day, and was very careful about what

I ate. I was able to stay off meds for over two years with my total

determination to doing all I can to stay off pills as I really hated

the idea of a lifetime of meds. In the end, some super stress from

a teenage daughter threw my life and bg levels totally nutty and I

had to go on meds again. I was so mad as I had been doing so well,

but I just couldn't get myself back on track with diet and exercise

alone. So it is possible to go off the meds. I think if the doc

had told me no, I'd have tried it anyway, just to see what would

happen. I am not suggesting you do that, it's up to you what you

do, but I needed to know I could do it on my own, it was very

important to me.

I hope you are wrong that 60% of people on meds end up on insulin, I

am a needle phobe and that would not be a good scenario for me.

Elva

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Hi Elva- Luckily my doc did not put me on meds when first diagnosed. I was

so surprised that I asked Eunice if there was something wrong with him.

After a few months, I understood and feel incredibly luckly that he gave me

the chance to do it on my own. I have seen other posts, with less BGs than

mine, that were immediatly put on meds.

Last month, I had tendonitis in my elbow so severe that I agreed to go on

prednosine for 5 days. Knew that it would cause my BGs to go up, but just

could not stand the pain. I fought the BGs for the full 5 days I was on it

knowing well that it would raise my A1C. It took me a good 2 weeks to get

back under control and my last A1c was up .2%. I was also stressed more

than usual. So the doc said, well, I won't put you on meds NOW. I had

gone from 6.2 to 6.4.

Like you, I will fight this disease to the bitter end and will not go on

meds until I feel it is necessary. It is a tough uphill battle, day by day,

but I think it I think it is worth it to keep BGs under control w/o meds.

My food selection is VERY limited, but that is worth it to me, if I do not

have to go on meds or face the complications of this disease. My mom has

told me that she could not do the WOE that I do. But, I say to her, if your

life is at stake, you would do what you have to to stay alive.

Carole

Getting off meds

When I was dx'd with t2 about 4.5 yrs ago my doc put me on glyburide

and it worked very well. Within about 3 months my levels were all

normal. I asked if I could go off meds and he said ok, you can try

it, but you need to make sure you exercise and eat as best you can.

So I did, I walked a lot, every day, and was very careful about what

I ate. I was able to stay off meds for over two years with my total

determination to doing all I can to stay off pills as I really hated

the idea of a lifetime of meds. In the end, some super stress from

a teenage daughter threw my life and bg levels totally nutty and I

had to go on meds again. I was so mad as I had been doing so well,

but I just couldn't get myself back on track with diet and exercise

alone. So it is possible to go off the meds. I think if the doc

had told me no, I'd have tried it anyway, just to see what would

happen. I am not suggesting you do that, it's up to you what you

do, but I needed to know I could do it on my own, it was very

important to me.

I hope you are wrong that 60% of people on meds end up on insulin, I

am a needle phobe and that would not be a good scenario for me.

Elva

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Hi carole,

My bg level at diagnosis was 18, which is 3 times normal, so that's

why he put me on meds right away. It did the trick, fairly quickly

too!

I wont go down without a fight, that's not my style, and if I have

to watch what I eat for the next 40 yrs that's ok with me, I will do

it.

Elva

> Hi Elva- Luckily my doc did not put me on meds when first

diagnosed. I was

> so surprised that I asked Eunice if there was something wrong with

him.

> After a few months, I understood and feel incredibly luckly that

he gave me

> the chance to do it on my own. I have seen other posts, with less

BGs than

> mine, that were immediatly put on meds.

>

> Last month, I had tendonitis in my elbow so severe that I agreed

to go on

> prednosine for 5 days. Knew that it would cause my BGs to go up,

but just

> could not stand the pain. I fought the BGs for the full 5 days I

was on it

> knowing well that it would raise my A1C. It took me a good 2 weeks

to get

> back under control and my last A1c was up .2%. I was also

stressed more

> than usual. So the doc said, well, I won't put you on meds NOW.

I had

> gone from 6.2 to 6.4.

>

> Like you, I will fight this disease to the bitter end and will not

go on

> meds until I feel it is necessary. It is a tough uphill battle,

day by day,

> but I think it I think it is worth it to keep BGs under control

w/o meds.

> My food selection is VERY limited, but that is worth it to me, if

I do not

> have to go on meds or face the complications of this disease. My

mom has

> told me that she could not do the WOE that I do. But, I say to

her, if your

> life is at stake, you would do what you have to to stay alive.

>

> Carole

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In a message dated 6/25/2003 6:26:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

doucar4ever@... writes:

> For those of you that have went off the

> meds...what led to that? Was it your doctors idea? Did your doctor

> suggest going off of it to see what happens? Were your blood sugars

> too low and it suggested that you need to come off the medication?

Hi Shelby,

It was in Aug 2000 that I decided I wanted off meds. I told my doctor this.

Her reply was, " I don't think it will happen, we will probably have to

increase meds. " Well, I was just stubborn enough to prove her wrong. I changed

my

way of eating (eating in moderation), started exercising even more. I started

losing weight. In Dec 2000, I had lost 19 lbs, but my A1c was still 7.5. In

January, I started getting more lows than I should have, so my doctor told me

to cut my Glyburide in half. That didn't help and I was also losing more

weight (which I wanted to do). In Feb 2001, she discontinued the meds.

hugs

Eunice

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I just purchased THE FIRST YEAR TYPE 2 DIABETES: AN ESSENTIAL GUIDE FOR THE

NEWLY DIAGNOSED, by Gretchen Becker. A marvelous read so far and so helpful.

It's all there and I feel so much better after beginning it. She recommends

internet support groups a lot and so I am doubly please to have found this

group.

Regarding the issue of going off meds--she covers that in a chapter and it was

very, very interesting. Not everyone can go off meds, it's that simple. It's

not a matter of willpower and total control by diet and exercise. If your beta

cells in your pancreas that produce insulin are not irreversably damaged, then

there is a great chance, like Eunice, that you can control your blood glucose

levels by diet and exercise. Glucotoxicity is when your beta cells are exposed

to high levels to the point the cells are damaged beyond repair--in which case,

medicines are going to play a role in your wellness.

One example was given of a woman who once diagnosed, did very well with diet and

exercise and kept her bg levels low. Then, at some point, the IR (Insulin

Resistance ) kicked in and soon the levels were high enough, and for a period

long enough, to damage her beta cells beyond repair. She then went on meds.

So, in other words, it is a very individual thing whether you can control your

bg levels simply by diet and exercise. (Did I say 'simply'???) It would

depend on how far along you are in the disease, I have gathered.

Jay, on a hot and steamy day in Maine...

> For those of you that have went off the

> meds...what led to that? Was it your doctors idea?

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