Re: Possible setback for Irish!

[Guest guest]

Wow what a %#!!$*# Bummer!

I was trying to think of some nice words to say but that really

stinks! I remember when I had my sinus infection 3 weeks

before surgery and my doctor wouldn't clear me until it was gone

and they couldn't take my blood until I was off the meds so my

surgery literally came down to not knowing one week before.

Well it all worked out so keep up the hope. The ortho looks at it

like he is designing the teeth one by one and the surgeon will

probably be ready to rip your jaw apart ; )

-Donna B. (1week1day postop)

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here to

" talk " .

> I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was

kinda

> achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had

a

> steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite

a

> bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just

noticed

> today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

> Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

> possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

> (*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

> I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent

that

> and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and

force

> that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it

hurt so

> bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the

most

> painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch.

Once

> they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at

all

> right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

> Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the

surgeon

> next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to

go.

> Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged.

I

> think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three

weeks

> to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

> then explained this has never happened in his entire career

(great,

> it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what

happened (tie

> could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

> So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer,

but

> take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

> things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you

know

> how next Wednesday goes.

>

> Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an

emotional

> rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank

you

> all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

> Irish. <=== just don't feel like a ! right now.

[Guest guest]

Irish! (you sound like you need your usual punctuation!) -

This may be some comfort to you - my teeth were not quite ready for

surgery, but I had had enough of waiting around. I am closing in on

30, and told the ortho and surgeon that I wanted to get pregnant, and

obviously couldn't have the surgery while pregnant, so, could they

hurry it up? They told me it would likely mean a little longer in

braces after surgery - probably 8-10 months instead of the typical 4-

6. Well, I decided to go for it, and I don't regret it at all. One

drawback is that my bite isn't perfect yet - there is still some

obvious moving that needs to be done. Of course now that surgery is

done, I want these braces off, but even just the surgery (funny to

say that - " just the surgery " - ha) has made a HUGE difference in my

life. I hadn't realized how much the waiting was wearing on me...it

felt like my life was on hold - no vacation planning, no baby, no big

expenses, etc...

Anyway, try to talk with your surgeon about options. If he says it

is a no-go, obviously it is for the best, and you'll have no choice

but to wait. But, maybe you can convince him that you're emotionally

ready, your life is on hold, and if it is something small, you really

need to go ahead with surgery as planned - even if it means a little

more tweaking once it is done (if that would be ok with you).

Good luck to you.

mollymcp

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here

to " talk " .

> I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was kinda

> achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had a

> steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite a

> bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just noticed

> today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

> Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

> possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

> (*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

> I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent

that

> and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and force

> that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it hurt so

> bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the

most

> painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch.

Once

> they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at all

> right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

> Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the

surgeon

> next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to go.

> Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged. I

> think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three

weeks

> to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

> then explained this has never happened in his entire career (great,

> it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what happened

(tie

> could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

> So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer, but

> take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

> things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you

know

> how next Wednesday goes.

>

> Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an emotional

> rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank

you

> all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

> Irish. <=== just don't feel like a ! right now.

[Guest guest]

(((((((((Irish))))))))))))

I'm sorry to hear about the bad day. It will get better... You hang in

there and remember you have me pulling for you. Keep the faith!!! Surgery

will be soon for you... Will say a prayer for you.....

Carin

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Possible setback for Irish!

>Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:55:14 -0000

>

>Hi all,

>

>Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here to " talk " .

>I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was kinda

>achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had a

>steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite a

>bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just noticed

>today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

>Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

>possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

>(*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

>I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent that

>and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and force

>that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it hurt so

>bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the most

>painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch. Once

>they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at all

>right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

>Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the surgeon

>next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to go.

>Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged. I

>think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three weeks

>to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

>then explained this has never happened in his entire career (great,

>it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what happened (tie

>could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

>So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer, but

>take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

>things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you know

>how next Wednesday goes.

>

>Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an emotional

>rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank you

>all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

>Irish. <=== just don't feel like a ! right now.

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, Irish,

I'm so so sorry. What a complete bummer. I've had teeth turn

completely around in a week...so maybe by next Wed. that sucker will

be back in place. I'll be crossing my fingers for you. What an

awful thing to happen so close to your surgery.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Hi Irish,

Sorry to hear the bad news.

Don't get to down. If your teeth moved out of place that quickly

then it can be moved back to where is suppose to be quickly too. It

also sounds like your ortho applied some " super forces " on that

tooth. So don't worry... keep positive.

Even if your tooth doesn't move enough in time. I wouldn't rush

anything... even if it means postponing the surgery for a week or

two. Patience is worth the BEST outcome.

Keep on smiling..... =)

Best Wishes!

Randy

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here

to " talk " .

> I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was kinda

> achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had a

> steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite a

> bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just noticed

> today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

> Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

> possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

> (*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

> I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent

that

> and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and force

> that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it hurt so

> bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the

most

> painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch.

Once

> they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at all

> right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

> Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the

surgeon

> next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to go.

> Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged. I

> think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three

weeks

> to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

> then explained this has never happened in his entire career (great,

> it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what happened

(tie

> could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

> So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer, but

> take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

> things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you

know

> how next Wednesday goes.

>

> Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an emotional

> rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank

you

> all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

> Irish. <=== just don't feel like a ! right now.

[Guest guest]

They managed to forget to tie one of mine one time, and that was the

most painful thing I've had so far, Irish. The tooth moved overnight

enough for the wire to seat itself in the bracket (ouch!). It's still

not totally straight.

So they can forget to do one -- the tech forgot, and the ortho, who

checked, didn't notice, nor did I.

Chances are pretty good, though, that if it moved that quickly one

way, it could move in reverse just as swiftly. especially with that

tie working on it -- so sorry!

If worst comes to worst, too, your surgeon will still probably be

able to work you into a cancelled spot. My guy told me when last I

saw him that the patient booked for the slot after me had cancelled.

(Now if he just doesn't get carried away and decide to do his

favorite op, the upper, on me while he has the spare time!!!)

I am so sorry.

Stuff, as they say, happens. But maybe there's a reason.

I do understand completely how you feel, I think. But try to learn

more patience and treat it as a chance for a bit more preparedness. I

will tell you that I am finding that I'm running out of time for all

the last minute things. So maybe, go on and get stuff ready just as

you would have, and you won't have a last-minute swivet, even if you

do get postponed.

Got my fingers crossed for you and that tooth!

Cammie

[Guest guest]

Irish!

I feel so bad for you. I hope it works out and your surgery can go

ahead as scheduled.

I am puzzled by your predicament, however, because I had the exact

opposite problem. My ortho kept saying that I was ready for surgery

(starting at a year-and-a-half in braces), and that he could make

adjustments later. My second surgeon evaluated me three times, but

kept wanting more movement. My third surgeon wanted to pull out my

wisdom teeth first. So when my fourth, and final, surgeon was ready

to do it right away (and after I haggled with insurance again), and I

had a date, I was so relieved and ready to get it done. The waiting

is terrible, but the end result will be worth it.

I'll end on a good loose tooth note. About two weeks ago, I noticed

three loose teeth where I had bands, and was worried that I wouldn't

get my braces off next week as previosly planned. I made an extra

trip to the ortho and he said that he didn't think that they were

that loose and that we'd follow the original plan. Here's hoping

that you have the same result. Sandy

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport@y..., " irishsmiles10 "

<irishsmiles10@h...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here

to " talk " .

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Irish. That is so disappointing. What amazes me is that one tooth

could mess the whole thing up for July 12. Sure glad you got in there

today and noticed it. The good thing is that you have three weeks to

get that tooth where it should be. Would seem far less feasible if

it was one week before and that sucker had to move to the right spot.

I am praying that that tooth will get where it is supposed to be and

that the surgeon can somehow work around that and do the surgery as

scheduled, as long as it won't compromise your outcome.

You know you have an awful lot of people supporting you now.

Hopefully all of us doing what we do can help " move " that tooth to

where it should be.

I certainly can imagine your disappointment, but it's not for sure

yet. Anything is possible.

Donna

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here to

" talk " .

> I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was kinda

> achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had a

> steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite a

> bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just noticed

> today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

> Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

> possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

> (*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

> I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent that

> and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and force

> that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it hurt so

> bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the

most

> painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch.

Once

> they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at all

> right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

> Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the surgeon

> next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to go.

> Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged. I

> think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three

weeks

> to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

> then explained this has never happened in his entire career (great,

> it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what happened (tie

> could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

> So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer, but

> take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

> things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you

know

> how next Wednesday goes.

>

> Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an emotional

> rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank

you

> all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

> Irish. <=== just don't feel lik

[Guest guest]

I would totally keep my fingers crossed on this one. When I went in

for my first set of molds and got the surgeon's diagnosis, she said

that 2 of my top teeth had to be " rotated " out b/c the pointy parts

were catching on my bottom teeth. I had a good cry as she didn't know

how long it would take for the teeth to move, and I was thinking

months. I made my appt with my ortho after he spoke to my surgeon in

May and went in for new molds the next month (which was last week)

and the teeth had moved exactly where and how they wanted them to and

now I have a date. I'm actually ready now, but I have to donate my

blood and they didn't have an opening until August.

I also have to say that I hadn't been in teeth pain like I was the

week after he made the special adjustments to rotate them out since I

got the braces on. I actually used one of my carefully hoarded

Lortabs that I had left over from my gallbladder surgery, they hurt

that bad.

Don't lose faith, if it's just that one tooth, it may move faster

than you think.

Praying for ya, J.

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here

to " talk " .

> I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was kinda

> achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had a

> steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite a

> bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just noticed

> today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

> Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

> possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

> (*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

> I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent

that

> and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and force

> that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it hurt so

> bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the

most

> painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch.

Once

> they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at all

> right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

> Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the

surgeon

> next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to go.

> Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged. I

> think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three

weeks

> to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

> then explained this has never happened in his entire career (great,

> it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what happened

(tie

> could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

> So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer, but

> take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

> things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you

know

> how next Wednesday goes.

>

> Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an emotional

> rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank

you

> all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

> Irish. <=== just don't feel like a ! right now.

[Guest guest]

Irish-

Everyone has already said everything and anything I can possibly

think of to say in regards to this situation... just hope for the

best and go with the flow if you have to wait another week or

two...HA! I should take my own advice sometime. Easier said than done

but somehow I know you'll manage with whatever is thrown your way.

We're here for you. Waiting is a royal pain in the butt.

Neta-lee

> Hi all,

>

> Very disappointing day for me today. Glad I can come here

to " talk " .

> I woke up this morning and realized that one of my teeth was kinda

> achey. I looked inside and noticed that one of my eye teeth had a

> steel tie missing. I also noticed that the tooth had moved quite a

> bit. This could have been happening for awhile, but I just noticed

> today. Called the ortho and he took me in right away.

>

> Well, after looking at my teeth, he said, " There is a very strong

> possibility that this will delay your surgery " .

>

> (*@$(*#)()@(_(!#@_)#* & %( & ^%^ !!!!!

>

> I told him that I wanted him to do whatever he could to prevent

that

> and he said he'd try his best. He had to change the wire and force

> that one tooth back and tears were running down my face it hurt so

> bad, even with taking Motrin before I left. By far that was the

most

> painful ortho appointment I ever had. Tonight will be a bi*ch.

Once

> they were done, the pain had settled down and it's not bad at all

> right now, but during: (*#$(@)T% & ^ & !(*

>

> Anyway, he said to keep my 1-hour pre-surgery visit with the

surgeon

> next Wednesday and the surgeon can tell him if I'm still ok to go.

> Could got either way, but the ortho sure didn't look encouraged. I

> think he feels there's simply not enough time in the next three

weeks

> to get that tooth where it needs to be. He apologized profusely,

> then explained this has never happened in his entire career (great,

> it happened to me, though) and said he's not sure what happened

(tie

> could have been loose or cut somehow with something I ate).

>

> So I'm in complete limbo once again. Sorry to post a downer, but

> take note that I haven't given up, I am thinking positively as if

> things are going to go as planned. You know I'll let all of you

know

> how next Wednesday goes.

>

> Just goes to show you that this whole process is such an emotional

> rollercoaster and your patience is tested over and over. I thank

you

> all who have helped me in this journey and I'll get there.

>

> Irish. <=== just don't feel like a ! right now.