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>Did you all know that Onstar cannot give law enforcement agencies the

location of a vehicle, unless the vehicle is entered as stolen, or

the driver is reported missing.<

I think, in the future, many limitations will be

put on OnStar type systems...

While the benefits of the system are many, there

is also the possibility of abuse and privacy issues.

Weintraut

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They don't have a program in place to give you information in exigent

circumstances without

a supoena? The cellular companies can do this, why can't Onstar?

Fowler, KD4IIW

Spotsylvania,VA

Spotsylvania County 911

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:20:56 EST hlj0124@... writes:

> Hi.

>

> Did you all know that Onstar cannot give law enforcement agencies

> the

> location of a vehicle, unless the vehicle is entered as stolen, or

> the driver is reported missing. We had a situation the other night,

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My one and only OnStar call was a panic button and the car was tracked by

OnStar but by the time we got to the vehicle the engine was cold however the

driver had taken the route we were given but it was far from " real time " . The

OnStar rep was nice and kept giving updates on the vehicle location. Luckily

it turned out the panic button had been pushed by a dog riding in the front

seat and there was no true emergency so I was up disapointed by the time lapse.

That was several years ago. Wonder if OnStar has changed their policies

over time?

Kathy

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In a message dated 12/16/2003 10:25:44 AM Central Standard Time,

dsptchmom@... writes:

> Wonder if OnStar has changed their policies

> over time?

>

> Kathy

>

sure sounds like it..

jamie in iowa

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In a message dated 12/16/2003 9:27:21 AM Central Standard Time,

rjmorrison@... writes:

> So, how the hell does Onstar know whether or not the vehicle is " entered as

> stolen " ? Lie

> to them - Hell, tell them the driver is missing.

well, they needed an " NCIC " number.. is what they told me, which that would

make since, if they can't give a location without them being missing or vehicle

stolen.. but ya know,,, I'll just rattle off a number next time... GOOD

IDEA!! thanks..

jamie in iowa

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In a message dated 12/16/2003 12:31:19 PM Central Standard Time,

jyoung@... writes:

> Just make sure it is in the right format. Their system requires a

> properly formatted number in that field.

>

yea, was wondering if it would fly

jamie in iowa

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> I'll give you another tip about the fine folks at Onstar if you weren't

> aware

> of this...I sure wasn't.

I wasn't either until the other night. We received a call from Onstar via a

neighboring agency. I had 4 deputies in the right position for once, called

Onstar back for an update and they didn't know what I was talking about.

They informed me they don't track, had no information of value, etc.

Worthless, imho. Hope they have a concierge service for their members

because I don't what else of value they provide. Sorry, I don't like to

have my time wasted.

Walt

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hlj0124@... wrote:

> Hi.

>

> Did you all know that Onstar cannot give law enforcement agencies the

> location of a vehicle, unless the vehicle is entered as stolen, or

> the driver is reported missing.

So, how the hell does Onstar know whether or not the vehicle is " entered as

stolen " ? Lie

to them - Hell, tell them the driver is missing. They are missing if you can't

talk to

them. There are as many ways around an idiot or an idiot bureaucracy as there

points on a

compass. God knows I have been charting a course through governments for forty

years.

Rich

1010 WC

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