Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Hi : I haven't found a legal ham. My mom used to raise hogs so I'm thinking of calling her old butcher to see if he knows anyone that sells ham that would be legal for SCD. However, ham cured with only salt is legal. Ham Legal Only if cured with salt, it is illegal if cured with sugar dextrose etc see Ham Elaine writes:Ham can be cured two ways: (1) the old fashioned way with salt and (2) the new fangled way with sugar (dextrose, corn syrup, blah, blah, blah.)Any sugar which has been extracted from its natural source should not beused (nothing is 100% as we do have to make a few concessions here andthere).So ham NOT CURED THE FIRST WAY is out!!!Or to put it the other way: HAM CURED WITH SUGAR IS OUT Misty Kimble Louisiana CD - no meds SCD - 4 months"nicole.prieur" wrote: Hi Everyone:I'm craving some ham!!! Haven't had any in 10 years or so...some may remember I had said I was vegetarian before the SCDiet. Would someone be so kind as to let me know if I can simply purchase a ham at the supermarket, bake it and eat it ) Thank you in advance.GERDS and IBS(undiagnosed)SCD 2 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Prosciutto (sp?) is legal. Sometimes around the holidays field has legal hams or you could check on-line. Hi : I haven't found a legal ham. My mom used to raise hogs so I'm thinking of calling her old butcher to see if he knows anyone that sells ham that would be legal for SCD. However, ham cured with only salt is legal. Ham Legal Only if cured with salt, it is illegal if cured with sugar dextrose etc see Ham Elaine writes:Ham can be cured two ways: (1) the old fashioned way with salt and (2) the new fangled way with sugar (dextrose, corn syrup, blah, blah, blah.)Any sugar which has been extracted from its natural source should not be used (nothing is 100% as we do have to make a few concessions here andthere).So ham NOT CURED THE FIRST WAY is out!!!Or to put it the other way: HAM CURED WITH SUGAR IS OUT Misty Kimble Louisiana CD - no meds SCD - 4 months " nicole.prieur " wrote: Hi Everyone:I'm craving some ham!!! Haven't had any in 10 years or so...some may remember I had said I was vegetarian before the SCDiet. Would someone be so kind as to let me know if I can simply purchase a ham at the supermarket, bake it and eat it ) Thank you in advance.GERDS and IBS(undiagnosed)SCD 2 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 At 06:28 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote: I'm craving some ham!!! Prosciutto, cured with just salt and water, is SCD legal. Most commercial hams have dextrose or sugar or other illegals. And I can tell you from experience that the results of eating some of the commercial ham is Not Fun. (My husband's boss used to give a big 15 pound ham at Christmas... I cooked it for Harry, and it smelled sooo good... and... well, let's just say that no bite of ham is worth spending hours in the bathroom....) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I haven't been able to find one in the store. I found a couple of local farmers that raise hogs that have them sometimes. A lot of the time they don't have the ones cured without sugar in stock. I haven't been able to grab one yet. I do buy a half hog at a time and I get fresh hams with it. The butcher that the farmer I buy from uses can't/won't/doesn't (whatever) do a ham cured without sugar. I still have to figure out how to cook them. I have 3 or 4 sitting in the freezer right now. To find local farms and farmers check out, http://www.eatwild.com/ http://www.localharvest.org/ http://www.realmilk.com/where1.html Best wishes and good luck, Kim H. husband, , CD 1999 SCD 2002 Re: Is cooked ham SCD legal Hi : I haven't found a legal ham. My mom used to raise hogs so I'm thinking of calling her old butcher to see if he knows anyone that sells ham that would be legal for SCD. However, ham cured with only salt is legal. Ham Legal Only if cured with salt, it is illegal if cured with sugar dextrose etc see Ham Elaine writes:Ham can be cured two ways: (1) the old fashioned way with salt and (2) the new fangled way with sugar (dextrose, corn syrup, blah, blah, blah.)Any sugar which has been extracted from its natural source should not beused (nothing is 100% as we do have to make a few concessions here andthere).So ham NOT CURED THE FIRST WAY is out!!!Or to put it the other way: HAM CURED WITH SUGAR IS OUT Misty Kimble Louisiana CD - no meds SCD - 4 months"nicole.prieur" <.Prieur@ cic.gc.ca> wrote: Hi Everyone:I'm craving some ham!!! Haven't had any in 10 years or so...some may remember I had said I was vegetarian before the SCDiet. Would someone be so kind as to let me know if I can simply purchase a ham at the supermarket, bake it and eat it ) Thank you in advance.GERDS and IBS(undiagnosed)SCD 2 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 At 11:50 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote: I haven't been able to find one in the store. I found a couple of local farmers that raise hogs that have them sometimes. A lot of the time they don't have the ones cured without sugar in stock. I haven't been able to grab one yet. I do buy a half hog at a time and I get fresh hams with it. The butcher that the farmer I buy from uses can't/won't/doesn't (whatever) do a ham cured without sugar. I still have to figure out how to cook them. I have 3 or 4 sitting in the freezer right now. Kim, Those ham chunks can make a dynamite pulled pork -- put in crock pot, add SCD-legal BBQ sauce, and cook the bejaysus out of them. Then shred, remove bones, fat, etc. and serve the meat with extra BBQ sauce. http://schmidling.com/ham.htm has directions for making your own ham (and you can sub honey for the sugar -- I asked him), but he recommends doing it with unfrozen meat. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Thank you for all those who replied concerning cooked ham. I hope to find some. I'll let you know if I do. Cheers, GERDS SCD 2 months > Hi Everyone: > > I'm craving some ham!!! Haven't had any in 10 years or so...some may > remember I had said I was vegetarian before the SCDiet. Would someone > be so kind as to let me know if I can simply purchase a ham at the > supermarket, bake it and eat it ) Thank you in advance. > > > GERDS and IBS(undiagnosed) > SCD 2 months > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Thanks, Marilyn!We haven't had pulled pork in a long time (pre-SCD). I would've never thought of making pulled pork from it.I checked out the link. It looks very doable. Have you ever done one? Do you use a cure powder? Thanks again,Kim Kim, Those ham chunks can make a dynamite pulled pork -- put in crock pot, add SCD-legal BBQ sauce, and cook the bejaysus out of them. Then shred, remove bones, fat, etc. and serve the meat with extra BBQ sauce. http://schmidling. com/ham.htm has directions for making your own ham (and you can sub honey for the sugar -- I asked him), but he recommends doing it with unfrozen meat.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 At 06:06 PM 6/4/2008, you wrote: We haven't had pulled pork in a long time (pre-SCD). I would've never thought of making pulled pork from it. I checked out the link. It looks very doable. Have you ever done one? Do you use a cure powder? I haven't done one YET because I just found that link right around the time I got the diagnosis, and everything went to Hades as I was preparing for the cancer surgery. A friend of mine in Milwaukee who is diabetic (and hence very careful about sugar and starch) has used the Prague powders without difficulty. The one drawback is that the Prague powders are nitrates and nitrites, and some folks would rather steer clear of those, though I have not had a problem with them. Steer clear of Morton Tender Quick, which is in a lot of sausage recipes, because it has a fair amount of dextrose in it. When I was working up a couple of sausage recipes, I talked to a sausage specialist, who said that you could simply substitute an equal amount of non-iodized salt for the Tender Quick in sausage recipes, but I don't know how that would work in the ham recipe. I'm not sure why it wouldn't, since there are hams which are fully salt cured, but the ham might not retain its nice pink color if you don't use the Prague powders. I think I'm going to use a SMALL piece of pork, like the link suggests for my first experiment, and see how it comes out before tackling a whole big piece. Besides, I have to figure out where to refrigerate a whole ham for however many weeks! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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