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In a message dated 01/12/2001 1:00:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

terrence_forrest@... writes:

<< Has anyone tested for either of the above or been treated for either? >

Nope but I will put that on my to draw blood list! I'm going back next wk, I

hope and anything anyone can think of I'm going to have my blood tested for!

(TN)

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Hi Terry,

My daughter had scarlet fever when she was around 4or 5. She had hives even

back then but it was a once a year occurrence not a daily one like she has

had for the last year.

Donna

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In a message dated 01/12/2001 10:18:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Dc2kats@... writes:

<< My daughter had scarlet fever when she was around 4or 5. She had hives

even

back then but it was a once a year occurrence not a daily one like she has

had for the last year.

Donna >>

Donna,

I just can't imagine being a child with these hives. How old is she and how

does it effect her in school and activity? Poor thing.

(TN.)

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I think it's worth looking at, especially if you have joint and

muscle pain. Rheumatic fever is strep A gone untreated. It needs

long term penicillian for the treatment. The other factor could be

if you have had family members treated for it or if you were treated

for it as a child. Just do a search on the internet for the

information. the blood test would be a strep A OSA.

Terry

> I never have. Is there some kind of connection?

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Thanks for your concern. My daughter is 11 now and has had hives everyday

for the last year. She is one of the lucky ones so far because the medicine

she is on (Zyrtec 20-30mg a day) has never made her drowsy and pretty much

keeps them from being major outbreaks. Most people at school doesn't even

know she has hives daily except for close friends because they are usually

worse in the late afternoons and evenings. As far as activities, she is

still very active and I think that because of this I am the one that usually

noticing her hives first even before she does because she is so busy (when

she was first diagnoised with CU the doctor said staying busy would be best

to keep her mind off of them). I just pray that this doesn't change or get

worse as time goes on because it is manageable right now and only causes her

slight irration.

Donna

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yup, me too. I've always tested negative for everything. However,

they have never checked for Rheumatic fever, and all of the tests

could still come back negative, but the symptoms could be the

determining factor. Hives, joint pain, angioedema, fever, etc... I

have not recently been treated due to doctor's fearing becoming

antibotic resistant. go figure, prednisoe and methotrexate, diabetes

drugs and blood preassure drugs are ok though. The joint pain for me

right now is probably the worst. I take cimetidine and that's know

to add more joint and muscle pain.

Terry

> > > I never have. Is there some kind of connection?

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Donna,

I think this may be something to look at. Push them docs hard....

do a quick search on scarlet fever, and if not treated or treated

incorrectly i can lead to Rheumatic fever. Rheumatic fever has many

of the same syptoms that we all have. Joint pain, hives, fever,

angioedema etc.... keep the faith kiddo, and God Bless

Terry

> In a message dated 01/12/2001 10:18:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Dc2kats@c... writes:

>

> << My daughter had scarlet fever when she was around 4or 5. She

had hives

> even

> back then but it was a once a year occurrence not a daily one like

she has

> had for the last year.

>

> Donna >>

>

> Donna,

> I just can't imagine being a child with these hives. How old is she

and how

> does it effect her in school and activity? Poor thing.

> (TN.)

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Thanks Terry,

I'll look into it. I can't have anymore test done on her until summer

because of a pre-existing clause in our new insurance and I can't afford to

pay for them on my own. Between now and then though I am going to request a

copy of all of her medical records and keep track of other test that can be

run for when this grace period is over. It does make me curious because I am

thinking her first outbreak of hives was sometime around the time she had the

scarlet fever but I don't remember if it was before or after. She has had

strep throat on a number of occasions usually once or twice a year which is

common with children but she did have strep twice within the same month last

summer. At that time the doc said if she had it again he was going to look

that direction as a possible connection but she didn't get it again and then

our insurance was canceled so I didn't push anymore because the medicine was

keeping the hives under control. I am glad I found this site now so I know

what other things to look for.

Donna

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Hi donna,

it sounds like a suspect. the problem is that Rheumatic may cause

myocarditis also. don't want to scare you, but I don't think I'd

wait. it is reversible with prednisone if caught early enough.

somehow, i think you probably may not want to wait. If your doc. is

amenable, just have him do the treatment of penicillin long term for

a starter and see if it gets better. it's about a three to 12 month

course and penicillin is pretty in expensive. again, I'd do some

searches on the net for rheumatic fever and become familiar with it

before doing anything. might just be a coicidence. does she have

joit pain as well?

Terry

> Thanks Terry,

>

> I'll look into it. I can't have anymore test done on her until

summer

> because of a pre-existing clause in our new insurance and I can't

afford to

> pay for them on my own. Between now and then though I am going to

request a

> copy of all of her medical records and keep track of other test

that can be

> run for when this grace period is over. It does make me curious

because I am

> thinking her first outbreak of hives was sometime around the time

she had the

> scarlet fever but I don't remember if it was before or after. She

has had

> strep throat on a number of occasions usually once or twice a year

which is

> common with children but she did have strep twice within the same

month last

> summer. At that time the doc said if she had it again he was going

to look

> that direction as a possible connection but she didn't get it again

and then

> our insurance was canceled so I didn't push anymore because the

medicine was

> keeping the hives under control. I am glad I found this site now so

I know

> what other things to look for.

>

> Donna

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