Re: waking to feed - to KEN

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Hi ,

Sorry for the confusion.

never did wake up hungry. For a while we were told to wake him and feed

him. But it soon became clear that he wasn't eating and this was just making him

more tired.

So in brief, I can't help you with your problem. I wish I could.

Right now here in New Hampshire (USA), it is 11:30 AM Wednesday.

I hope you get a little more sleep.

Ken M

" Hulsbosch " on 12/13/2000 11:33:21 AM

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Yep you tired all right - or perhaps I just tend to babble without getting

to the point. My Question was has anyone else had trouble with the kids

waking 'hungry' (this term is relative, with Darcy it's only very briefly)

during the night due to hypoglycaemia. Is this any clearer or am I babbling

again?

No, I have no intention of giving up the night time feeds, it's pretty much

the only time he has much, I think he's too tired to object. But with

breastfeeding I can never really be sure how much he's getting. I know he's

never had more than 20ml out of a bottle and the only time he's taken a

reasonable amount was via tube early on. His appetite was supposed to

increase once he knew what a full tummy felt like. Ha Ha.

Sleep? what a novel idea! Darcy just woke for a feed (it's 3:30am in

Melbourne, Australia) and I'm up checking emails before our visit to the

endo today...... and no, Tessa's not at school yet, she starts next year, ho

hum....

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>Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:14:41 -0500

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>

>Hi Steph,

>

>I am not quite sure I understand your question. I am pretty tired today

>myself.

>

>If your question is should you continue to allow Darcy to breastfeed at

>night

>despite what the doctors say, my opinion is YES !

>From my experience with my son , every extra calorie you can get in

>him is

>like money in the bank.

>

>If your question is what to do about lack of sleep, I can only suggest a

>nap if

>there is a time when Darcy is napping, ( I don't know if you work in or out

>of

>your home) and Tessa is in school ( assuming she is going to school). You

>could

>also go to bed earlier ( again if possible ).

>

>Sorry if this is not much help.

>

>Wishing I could take a nap

>

>Ken M

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " Hulsbosch " on 12/13/2000 11:02:56 AM

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>Subject: Re: waking to feed - OOPS

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>

>

>OOPS - Sorry it seems my email was perhaps a little insensitive - it's not

>the fact that Darcy is waking to feed that is affecting my judgement it's

>the lack of sleep, and every informed 'expert' in our lives telling us that

>we should be trying to get him back to sleep WITHOUT feeding him.... (yeah

>right, he's already not growing, doesn't eat much during the day and flatly

>refuses anything from a bottle or cup that isn't healthy nutritious WATER

>the last thing I need to do to him is cut out feeding at night.)

>

>Believe me I am truly grateful after reading many of your stories, that

>Darcy eats at all, and we only needed to resort to tube - feeding him for

>the first few months while he built up the strength and stamina to be able

>to breastfeed; and that poor appetite, poor weight gain, some minor

>physical

>malformations and arguing with his doctors about when to operate are our

>biggest problems - so many of you have so much more to deal with.

>

>Please know that our thoughts are with you, and thankyou to everyone who

>has

>'been there done that' before us - your experiences and advice are very

>much

>valued.

>

>Steph (mum to Darcy 13 months ?RSS and Tessa 5)

>

>

> >

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> >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >Subject: Re: waking to feed

> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:01:43 -0500

> >

> >Dear Darcy,

> >

> >I read your first sentence in your email and had to wistfully smile.

> >

> >God, how I would have given anything to have had our wake up and

>want

> >to be

> >fed. during his first year of life. I think of his little face, gazing

>up

> >at

> >me, not knowing that he should be hungry, never crying for food, just

> >taking

> >everything in. What a gift, for an RSS child especially, that your child

> >breastfeeds, sucks well and wants to eat.

> >

> >I ended up pumping all my breastmilk for 6 months. Pumped all day. Pumped

> >during

> >the night. And then, using all kinds of nipples, medicine droppers,

> >anything,

> >to get him to eat.

> >

> >I know that all things are relative, but it really is a beautiful

>blessing

> >that

> >you can have a successful breastfeeding relationship with your child. It

> >wasn't

> >until my second son was born (and hearty eater) that I realized how

>joyful

> >it

> >was to have my baby nurse successfully. And, it was an important lesson

> >for

> >me: I will have different relationships with my two boys, different

>types

> >of

> >joys, different kinds of blessings. And how important it is to accept

>both

> >the

> >disappointments and the pleasant surprises with equal love and patience.

> >

> >So take a deep breath during those sleepless nights and know that your

> >little

> >one, if he has RSS, is doing what is best for him! Especially if he is

> >prone to

> >hypoglycemia. (And, buy a lot of gossip magazines! I found that those

> >helped

> >relax me during my constant nighttime feedings with ).

> >

> >Katy

> >Mom to , 4, RSS, 32 pounds, 38.5 " , GHT since 4/00, periactin since

> >5/99.

> >

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So tell me I'm not the only one who sits at the computer to nurse the babe in

the middle

of the night!

Hulsbosch wrote:

> Yep you tired all right - or perhaps I just tend to babble without getting

> to the point. My Question was has anyone else had trouble with the kids

> waking 'hungry' (this term is relative, with Darcy it's only very briefly)

> during the night due to hypoglycaemia. Is this any clearer or am I babbling

> again?

>

> No, I have no intention of giving up the night time feeds, it's pretty much

> the only time he has much, I think he's too tired to object. But with

> breastfeeding I can never really be sure how much he's getting. I know he's

> never had more than 20ml out of a bottle and the only time he's taken a

> reasonable amount was via tube early on. His appetite was supposed to

> increase once he knew what a full tummy felt like. Ha Ha.

>

> Sleep? what a novel idea! Darcy just woke for a feed (it's 3:30am in

> Melbourne, Australia) and I'm up checking emails before our visit to the

> endo today...... and no, Tessa's not at school yet, she starts next year, ho

> hum....

>

> >

> >Reply-To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >Subject: Re: waking to feed - OOPS

> >Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:14:41 -0500

> >

> >

> >

> >Hi Steph,

> >

> >I am not quite sure I understand your question. I am pretty tired today

> >myself.

> >

> >If your question is should you continue to allow Darcy to breastfeed at

> >night

> >despite what the doctors say, my opinion is YES !

> >From my experience with my son , every extra calorie you can get in

> >him is

> >like money in the bank.

> >

> >If your question is what to do about lack of sleep, I can only suggest a

> >nap if

> >there is a time when Darcy is napping, ( I don't know if you work in or out

> >of

> >your home) and Tessa is in school ( assuming she is going to school). You

> >could

> >also go to bed earlier ( again if possible ).

> >

> >Sorry if this is not much help.

> >

> >Wishing I could take a nap

> >

> >Ken M

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Hulsbosch " on 12/13/2000 11:02:56 AM

> >

> >Please respond to RSS-Supportegroups

> >

> >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >cc:

> >

> >Subject: Re: waking to feed - OOPS

> >

> >

> >

> >OOPS - Sorry it seems my email was perhaps a little insensitive - it's not

> >the fact that Darcy is waking to feed that is affecting my judgement it's

> >the lack of sleep, and every informed 'expert' in our lives telling us that

> >we should be trying to get him back to sleep WITHOUT feeding him.... (yeah

> >right, he's already not growing, doesn't eat much during the day and flatly

> >refuses anything from a bottle or cup that isn't healthy nutritious WATER

> >the last thing I need to do to him is cut out feeding at night.)

> >

> >Believe me I am truly grateful after reading many of your stories, that

> >Darcy eats at all, and we only needed to resort to tube - feeding him for

> >the first few months while he built up the strength and stamina to be able

> >to breastfeed; and that poor appetite, poor weight gain, some minor

> >physical

> >malformations and arguing with his doctors about when to operate are our

> >biggest problems - so many of you have so much more to deal with.

> >

> >Please know that our thoughts are with you, and thankyou to everyone who

> >has

> >'been there done that' before us - your experiences and advice are very

> >much

> >valued.

> >

> >Steph (mum to Darcy 13 months ?RSS and Tessa 5)

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: RSS-Supportegroups

> > >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> > >Subject: Re: waking to feed

> > >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:01:43 -0500

> > >

> > >Dear Darcy,

> > >

> > >I read your first sentence in your email and had to wistfully smile.

> > >

> > >God, how I would have given anything to have had our wake up and

> >want

> > >to be

> > >fed. during his first year of life. I think of his little face, gazing

> >up

> > >at

> > >me, not knowing that he should be hungry, never crying for food, just

> > >taking

> > >everything in. What a gift, for an RSS child especially, that your child

> > >breastfeeds, sucks well and wants to eat.

> > >

> > >I ended up pumping all my breastmilk for 6 months. Pumped all day. Pumped

> > >during

> > >the night. And then, using all kinds of nipples, medicine droppers,

> > >anything,

> > >to get him to eat.

> > >

> > >I know that all things are relative, but it really is a beautiful

> >blessing

> > >that

> > >you can have a successful breastfeeding relationship with your child. It

> > >wasn't

> > >until my second son was born (and hearty eater) that I realized how

> >joyful

> > >it

> > >was to have my baby nurse successfully. And, it was an important lesson

> > >for

> > >me: I will have different relationships with my two boys, different

> >types

> > >of

> > >joys, different kinds of blessings. And how important it is to accept

> >both

> > >the

> > >disappointments and the pleasant surprises with equal love and patience.

> > >

> > >So take a deep breath during those sleepless nights and know that your

> > >little

> > >one, if he has RSS, is doing what is best for him! Especially if he is

> > >prone to

> > >hypoglycemia. (And, buy a lot of gossip magazines! I found that those

> > >helped

> > >relax me during my constant nighttime feedings with ).

> > >

> > >Katy

> > >Mom to , 4, RSS, 32 pounds, 38.5 " , GHT since 4/00, periactin since

> > >5/99.

> > >

> >

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Hi Steph

Adam is 8 now and I found out this summer he has hypoglycemia. Did he have it as

a baby???

Not sure...will never know now.

He was a poor suckler and so he had to be bottle fed. I breast fed the older

daughter for 11

months--so I knew I was " built " to accommodate but Adam just couldn't latch on.

Anyway, I

pumped for as long as I could (only 3 months---running after a 3 year old didn't

help with

the rest and the milk coming in much!)

To answer your question--for Adam's first year--well the first 6 months

anyway--I had to be

diligent to wake him up for a feed (he was content just to sleep). After that

he was a

constant feeder but then again my daughter was the worst!! She fed constantly

day and night

(even into the 13 month range and she is definitely not RSS--she's gigantic!!).

She seemed

to want that sucking for comfort thing and when breastfeeding you are right--you

can never

be sure how much they are getting. I remember with her always thinking " what you

can't be

hungry again!! " . And we had no issues with weight gain with her.

Adam often woke in the night for a comfort feed. It was never very much (by

bottle

measurements ) but he seemed to do it less than the daughter did at that age so

I didn't

think too much of it. Again, I was sleep deprived, but with the bottle the " dad "

did shifts.

But holy cow, I'll never forget those nights when it was solely breastfeeding

with the

girl!!! Many a night I just plunked her into bed with me.

As for others' advice--forget it. Do what you want and when you want. I think

you realize

the importance of feeding Darcy whenever you can. I totally sympathize with the

sleep

deprivation!!

Overall, from my experience, I couldn't say for sure if those late night wake up

for feeds

is hypoglycemic related or just the temperament of your child (Colette sounds

alot like

Darcy and she was not RSS or hypo-g)..

Hope that helps.

Debby

Hulsbosch wrote:

> Yep you tired all right - or perhaps I just tend to babble without getting

> to the point. My Question was has anyone else had trouble with the kids

> waking 'hungry' (this term is relative, with Darcy it's only very briefly)

> during the night due to hypoglycaemia. Is this any clearer or am I babbling

> again?

>

> No, I have no intention of giving up the night time feeds, it's pretty much

> the only time he has much, I think he's too tired to object. But with

> breastfeeding I can never really be sure how much he's getting. I know he's

> never had more than 20ml out of a bottle and the only time he's taken a

> reasonable amount was via tube early on. His appetite was supposed to

> increase once he knew what a full tummy felt like. Ha Ha.

>

> Sleep? what a novel idea! Darcy just woke for a feed (it's 3:30am in

> Melbourne, Australia) and I'm up checking emails before our visit to the

> endo today...... and no, Tessa's not at school yet, she starts next year, ho

> hum....

>

> >

> >Reply-To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >Subject: Re: waking to feed - OOPS

> >Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:14:41 -0500

> >

> >

> >

> >Hi Steph,

> >

> >I am not quite sure I understand your question. I am pretty tired today

> >myself.

> >

> >If your question is should you continue to allow Darcy to breastfeed at

> >night

> >despite what the doctors say, my opinion is YES !

> >From my experience with my son , every extra calorie you can get in

> >him is

> >like money in the bank.

> >

> >If your question is what to do about lack of sleep, I can only suggest a

> >nap if

> >there is a time when Darcy is napping, ( I don't know if you work in or out

> >of

> >your home) and Tessa is in school ( assuming she is going to school). You

> >could

> >also go to bed earlier ( again if possible ).

> >

> >Sorry if this is not much help.

> >

> >Wishing I could take a nap

> >

> >Ken M

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Hulsbosch " on 12/13/2000 11:02:56 AM

> >

> >Please respond to RSS-Supportegroups

> >

> >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> >cc:

> >

> >Subject: Re: waking to feed - OOPS

> >

> >

> >

> >OOPS - Sorry it seems my email was perhaps a little insensitive - it's not

> >the fact that Darcy is waking to feed that is affecting my judgement it's

> >the lack of sleep, and every informed 'expert' in our lives telling us that

> >we should be trying to get him back to sleep WITHOUT feeding him.... (yeah

> >right, he's already not growing, doesn't eat much during the day and flatly

> >refuses anything from a bottle or cup that isn't healthy nutritious WATER

> >the last thing I need to do to him is cut out feeding at night.)

> >

> >Believe me I am truly grateful after reading many of your stories, that

> >Darcy eats at all, and we only needed to resort to tube - feeding him for

> >the first few months while he built up the strength and stamina to be able

> >to breastfeed; and that poor appetite, poor weight gain, some minor

> >physical

> >malformations and arguing with his doctors about when to operate are our

> >biggest problems - so many of you have so much more to deal with.

> >

> >Please know that our thoughts are with you, and thankyou to everyone who

> >has

> >'been there done that' before us - your experiences and advice are very

> >much

> >valued.

> >

> >Steph (mum to Darcy 13 months ?RSS and Tessa 5)

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: RSS-Supportegroups

> > >To: RSS-Supportegroups

> > >Subject: Re: waking to feed

> > >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:01:43 -0500

> > >

> > >Dear Darcy,

> > >

> > >I read your first sentence in your email and had to wistfully smile.

> > >

> > >God, how I would have given anything to have had our wake up and

> >want

> > >to be

> > >fed. during his first year of life. I think of his little face, gazing

> >up

> > >at

> > >me, not knowing that he should be hungry, never crying for food, just

> > >taking

> > >everything in. What a gift, for an RSS child especially, that your child

> > >breastfeeds, sucks well and wants to eat.

> > >

> > >I ended up pumping all my breastmilk for 6 months. Pumped all day. Pumped

> > >during

> > >the night. And then, using all kinds of nipples, medicine droppers,

> > >anything,

> > >to get him to eat.

> > >

> > >I know that all things are relative, but it really is a beautiful

> >blessing

> > >that

> > >you can have a successful breastfeeding relationship with your child. It

> > >wasn't

> > >until my second son was born (and hearty eater) that I realized how

> >joyful

> > >it

> > >was to have my baby nurse successfully. And, it was an important lesson

> > >for

> > >me: I will have different relationships with my two boys, different

> >types

> > >of

> > >joys, different kinds of blessings. And how important it is to accept

> >both

> > >the

> > >disappointments and the pleasant surprises with equal love and patience.

> > >

> > >So take a deep breath during those sleepless nights and know that your

> > >little

> > >one, if he has RSS, is doing what is best for him! Especially if he is

> > >prone to

> > >hypoglycemia. (And, buy a lot of gossip magazines! I found that those

> > >helped

> > >relax me during my constant nighttime feedings with ).

> > >

> > >Katy

> > >Mom to , 4, RSS, 32 pounds, 38.5 " , GHT since 4/00, periactin since

> > >5/99.

> > >

> >

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