Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

[Guest guest]

I think you should always follow your instincts on these decisions. People who

do biomedical will get varying results and so will people who do homeopathy.

So many factors that affect outcomes. I know somebody big in the homeopathy

community who " recovered her two kids in 1 year " ....except that they never had

autism.

I know people who do heavy medical interventions with little to no care in diet

who can make the kids worse.

The best advice I have is to use common sense. Follow the people that make

sense to you. If your kid is progressing....that is your answer. Stay away

from people who say " we tried it, it didn't work. " Keep digging. Many say

they tried diet for example...this is such a broad topic. Was their child on a

junkfood GFCF diet or was their child eating organic produce each day?

Follow the families who are getting results and most importantly follow your

child.

We've followed a long list and started as moderate to severe in diagnosis from 3

seperate places. How I knew what to do next was to stay open, deal with anger

and guilt. Son-Rise was amazing for myself and my child. We no longer have

autism. When anyone claims to have " the answer " RUN RUN RUN, stay open, dig

deeper always.

Body Ecology Diet

ABA

Son-Rise

Brain Balance

chelation

Hbot

supplementation

mitochondrial supps

antifungal RX and natural

parasite RX and natural

chiropractic

cranial sacral

enemas/colonics

glutathione

B12 shots

far infrared sauna

never giving up, sticking with positive families or staying alone

For my family personally we'll do more with homeopathy next. I believe

everything has it's time and place...and for each family this sequence will be

different. One things for sure....NONE of it was easy, and most of it takes a

ton of organization and persistance. I don't recall one part being close to

simple. It's unreal......but a blessing and I'm grateful.

All the best

>

> Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would

like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy.

Any suggestions?

>

> D.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, find a homeopath who is DAN! trained. That's what we did. Best of both worlds!!nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 secondsSubject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?

D.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I think I am going the right way, I found a DAN doctor, who does holistic approach. But I guess it is not the same as homeopathy? Sorry, I am new in all these terms.

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

Who is your homoepath is Pierre fortune ?

Thanks

sema

To: mb12 valtrex From: firk87@...Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:21:47 -0700Subject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Thanks, I think I am going the right way, I found a DAN doctor, who does holistic approach. But I guess it is not the same as homeopathy? Sorry, I am new in all these terms.

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

hi, just my experience with homeopathy. we have been using homeopathy for alittle over a year and are on our 3rd homeopath. the key is the right homeopath. the first 2 we used were skype appointments, we now have a local homeopath.

it has been only 7 days since this new homeopath but we already have seen great changes.

oh, fyi - my friend in the same town is using homeopathy for her 3 yr old asd son , and he is about to lose his diagnosis. he had speech, but echolia, and he was aggressive. after 2 weeks on the right remedy for him he potty trained himself and has not had a violent outburst since.

i wish i would have tried homeopathy first, but it really is important to find the right one.

sharon

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 6:28:09 PMSubject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

I think you should always follow your instincts on these decisions. People who do biomedical will get varying results and so will people who do homeopathy. So many factors that affect outcomes. I know somebody big in the homeopathy community who "recovered her two kids in 1 year"....except that they never had autism. I know people who do heavy medical interventions with little to no care in diet who can make the kids worse. The best advice I have is to use common sense. Follow the people that make sense to you. If your kid is progressing....that is your answer. Stay away from people who say "we tried it, it didn't work." Keep digging. Many say they tried diet for example...this is such a broad topic. Was their child on a junkfood GFCF diet or was their child eating organic produce each day? Follow the families who are getting results and most importantly follow your child. We've followed a long list and started as

moderate to severe in diagnosis from 3 seperate places. How I knew what to do next was to stay open, deal with anger and guilt. Son-Rise was amazing for myself and my child. We no longer have autism. When anyone claims to have "the answer" RUN RUN RUN, stay open, dig deeper always.Body Ecology DietABASon-RiseBrain BalancechelationHbotsupplementationmitochondrial suppsantifungal RX and naturalparasite RX and naturalchiropracticcranial sacralenemas/colonicsglutathioneB12 shotsfar infrared saunanever giving up, sticking with positive families or staying aloneFor my family personally we'll do more with homeopathy next. I believe everything has it's time and place...and for each family this sequence will be different. One things for sure....NONE of it was easy, and most of it takes a ton of organization and persistance. I don't recall one part being close to simple. It's

unreal......but a blessing and I'm grateful.All the best>> Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?> > D.>

[Guest guest]

I don't think these have to be an either or situation. Biomed has done wonders for my son, but we're still going to try homeopathy too, because I've heard such wonderful things about it. So, we have an upcoming consult with Pierre Fontaine, who is a classical homeopath. Google his name and biomed radio to listen to an excellent interview he did where he explains homeopathy. In the interview he states that he doesn't ask parents to discontinue biomed when they begin homeopathy because the biomed interventions do work. They address deficits in metabolism, nutrition and the body in general that are caused by autism. What classical homeopathy does is address the underlying conditions that cause the body to not work optimally. So, what I'm hearing from

biomed parents that have gone to Pierre is that their children no longer need all the supplements.

What I would do is immediately start my child on a good multivitamin, like SuperNuThera from Kirkman Labs, give him or her a good cod liver oil from Nordic Naturals, or some other brand that is very clean, begin weaning him or her off milk/casein to see if that helps, same with gluten, then continue to research and look for proffessionals to work with that you feel are a good fit for your family, both philosophically and financially.

Kim

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 2:10:06 PMSubject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]



nordic naturals contains soy, it would vear away from anyone with soy in it, kirkmans is soy free

Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

I didn't know that. My son uses Nordic Naturals and they've been a miracle for him. Even with other CLO he has regressions, so this is the one for him. But I can see steering away from soy since many of our kids are sensitive to it.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 9:07:58 AMSubject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

 nordic naturals contains soy, it would vear away from anyone with soy in it, kirkmans is soy free

Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

I'm definitely going to try finding a homeopath. Does any one know one in the

Washington DC area?

What types of remedies is the homeopath targeting?

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

 

I think you should always follow your instincts on these decisions. People who

do biomedical will get varying results and so will people who do homeopathy. So

many factors that affect outcomes. I know somebody big in the homeopathy

community who " recovered her two kids in 1 year " ....except that they never had

autism.

I know people who do heavy medical interventions with little to no care in diet

who can make the kids worse.

The best advice I have is to use common sense. Follow the people that make sense

to you. If your kid is progressing....that is your answer. Stay away from people

who say " we tried it, it didn't work. " Keep digging. Many say they tried diet

for example...this is such a broad topic. Was their child on a junkfood GFCF

diet or was their child eating organic produce each day?

Follow the families who are getting results and most importantly follow your

child.

We've followed a long list and started as moderate to severe in diagnosis from 3

seperate places. How I knew what to do next was to stay open, deal with anger

and guilt. Son-Rise was amazing for myself and my child. We no longer have

autism. When anyone claims to have " the answer " RUN RUN RUN, stay open, dig

deeper always.

Body Ecology Diet

ABA

Son-Rise

Brain Balance

chelation

Hbot

supplementation

mitochondrial supps

antifungal RX and natural

parasite RX and natural

chiropractic

cranial sacral

enemas/colonics

glutathione

B12 shots

far infrared sauna

never giving up, sticking with positive families or staying alone

For my family personally we'll do more with homeopathy next. I believe

everything has it's time and place...and for each family this sequence will be

different. One things for sure....NONE of it was easy, and most of it takes a

ton of organization and persistance. I don't recall one part being close to

simple. It's unreal......but a blessing and I'm grateful.

All the best

& gt; & gt;

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to

try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any

suggestions? & gt; & gt; D. & gt;

[Guest guest]

Many people are not sensitive to soy lecithin or soy oil because the protein has been extracted and protein is where the allergen lies. So a lot of people will have success with NN and other soy oil containing products. Some people are ultra-sensitive and even the small amount will have an effect.My brother has celiac disease and he can eat at taco bell (hard tacos) even though there is some gluten in the seasoning, but a cracker will make him sick all day (till he takes a gluten-ease capsule) Anyway, my point is, everyone's body is different... if NN is working for you, keep it but if you aren't seeing anything from your soy-containing oil, switch it! :-) --- ToniTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 9:28:16 AMSubject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

I didn't know that. My son uses Nordic Naturals and they've been a miracle for him. Even with other CLO he has regressions, so this is the one for him. But I can see steering away from soy since many of our kids are sensitive to it.

From: Christel King <missvermont94@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, July 29, 2010 9:07:58 AMSubject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

 nordic naturals contains soy, it would vear away from anyone with soy in it, kirkmans is soy free

[Guest guest]

Hi,Our NP is Dr. Tarasuk. She is in . We love her. She uses the gentle approach when necessary. For our guy that is important cause he is a big responder. Everything we do does something to him, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. She listens to us, takes our advice and investigates everything we ask about and gives us her opinion about any treatments we want to start. If you want to go fast, she will do that; if you need to go slowly, she will do that too. I can't say enough about her. nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

Hi . I wanted to ask you if Dr. Tarasuk is a DAN doctor?

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

He has severe food allergies - no dairy, soy, egg, peanut, etc. So his diet already is restricted in a good way I guess, but it is also very limited, he still drinks formula, but we are planning on weaning him from it, because it does contain soy and casein, but it is the only one that he can drink and he seems to like it. We are currently giving him fish oil that is by prescription (Lovaza), but I am thinking to switching to cod liver oil. And we are definitely will be doing organic diet.

Subject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 6:03 AM

I don't think these have to be an either or situation. Biomed has done wonders for my son, but we're still going to try homeopathy too, because I've heard such wonderful things about it. So, we have an upcoming consult with Pierre Fontaine, who is a classical homeopath. Google his name and biomed radio to listen to an excellent interview he did where he explains homeopathy. In the interview he states that he doesn't ask parents to discontinue biomed when they begin homeopathy because the biomed interventions do work. They address deficits in metabolism, nutrition and the body in general that are caused by autism. What classical homeopathy does is address the underlying conditions that cause the body to not work optimally. So, what I'm hearing from biomed parents that have gone to Pierre is that their children no longer need all the supplements.

What I would do is immediately start my child on a good multivitamin, like SuperNuThera from Kirkman Labs, give him or her a good cod liver oil from Nordic Naturals, or some other brand that is very clean, begin weaning him or her off milk/casein to see if that helps, same with gluten, then continue to research and look for proffessionals to work with that you feel are a good fit for your family, both philosophically and financially.

Kim

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, July 28, 2010 2:10:06 PMSubject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]



sadly many times its not that simple, if you haven't done a challege with removing it for week and then challengeing it to see what difference you see you may not have any idea how much so little can cause issues on a person. just like many people have no idea how much milk or gluten effect them till they remove it!

if your brother has celiac disease even that amount of gluten in the seasoning IS causing issues he just can't see it because it's interal on the intestinal wall. I see people all the time and their test results that THINK soy oil isn't causing issue or lecithin and then get their IGG results only to find there body is INFACT reacting to it, when they thought they were fine, they had NO other sources of soy protien in the diet ONLY the oils and emulsifiers......immune system is NOT that picky, it can react to anything NOT just protiens. heck think of lactose intollerence, the MOST recongnized reaction for intollerences and most accepted, not a protein my friend it's a sugar!

Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.



nordic naturals contains soy, it would vear away from anyone with soy in it, kirkmans is soy free

[Guest guest]



yes there are soy and casein free formulas as well neocate and nutramegan are both safe.....it may take a while but get him swithced over if you know he can't do them

Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

He have tried many different formulas (including Neocate), but he is just stuck with Nutramigen. The problem is that this formula is from birth to 1 year, he just turned 2 years old now, so he might not be getting enough nutrients for his age. So we were thinking of getting of off formula all together and start completely different diet. Unfortunately, his formula intake is about 70% of his daily calorie intake (solid foods is not his cup of tea), so I am really concerned that he won't be getting enough calories. He is not getting enough calories even with drinking formula. sigh

From: Kim <delicateflower_ kkyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 6:03 AM

I don't think these have to be an either or situation. Biomed has done wonders for my son, but we're still going to try homeopathy too, because I've heard such wonderful things about it. So, we have an upcoming consult with Pierre Fontaine, who is a classical homeopath. Google his name and biomed radio to listen to an excellent interview he did where he explains homeopathy. In the interview he states that he doesn't ask parents to discontinue biomed when they begin homeopathy because the biomed interventions do work. They address deficits in metabolism, nutrition and the body in general that are caused by autism. What classical homeopathy does is address the underlying conditions that cause the body to not work optimally. So, what I'm hearing from biomed parents that have gone to Pierre is that their children no longer need all the supplements.

What I would do is immediately start my child on a good multivitamin, like SuperNuThera from Kirkman Labs, give him or her a good cod liver oil from Nordic Naturals, or some other brand that is very clean, begin weaning him or her off milk/casein to see if that helps, same with gluten, then continue to research and look for proffessionals to work with that you feel are a good fit for your family, both philosophically and financially.

Kim

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, July 28, 2010 2:10:06 PMSubject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

She is a DAN! trained NP, not an MD. but she can write prescriptions cause she took the extra schooling to enable her to do prescription meds. She has quite an impressive personal testimony about why she got into natural medicine. Cured her son (who is now 40's) from an "uncurable" illness and herself of very severe eye damage from food supplements. She is soooo well informed about all things DAN! and always learning more. I can't say enough about her, and she knew more to begin with than our MD. That's why we see her and not an MD. She is also about 1/2 the price (a real benefit).nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks so much. As soon as you mentioned her name, I was so happy to know that she was on my list and she lives in our area. I left her a message on the phone.

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

Good, I am sure you will be positively impressed. I know we love her and drive 2 hrs to see her, and feel lucky she is that close. Tell her says hi! 8-)nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you so much for your quick return you great.

ý have send her email hope she can read and return to me

because ý live in Turkey / Istanbul ý have asked her if it is acceptable

to meet on skye or by send letter which desrpies my son.

now looking forwad to having her return.

Thank you so much again.

love

sema

To: mb12 valtrex From: endofautism@...Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:20:12 -0700Subject: RE: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi,Our NP is Dr. Tarasuk. She is in . We love her. She uses the gentle approach when necessary. For our guy that is important cause he is a big responder. Everything we do does something to him, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. She listens to us, takes our advice and investigates everything we ask about and gives us her opinion about any treatments we want to start. If you want to go fast, she will do that; if you need to go slowly, she will do that too. I can't say enough about her. nancy ja child is diagnosed with asd every 20 seconds

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

Merhaba, Sema. Just wanted to let you know that I have lived in Istanbul in the past and that I have a Turkish husband and two little Turkish-American kids.If you ever want to chat, just let me know! Tori Tuncan Hi , Thank you so much for your quick return you great.ı have send her email hope she can read and return to mebecause ı live in Turkey / Istanbul ı have asked her if it is acceptableto meet on skye or by send letter which desrpies my son. now looking forwad to having her return. Thank you so much again. love sema To: mb12 valtrex From: endofautismDate: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:20:12 -0700Subject: RE: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy. Hi,Our NP is Dr. Tarasuk. She is in . We love her. She uses the gentle approach when necessary. For our guy that is important cause he is a big responder. Everything we do does something to him, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. She listens to us, takes our advice and investigates everything we ask about and gives us her opinion about any treatments we want to start. If you want to go fast, she will do that; if you need to go slowly, she will do that too. I can't say enough about her. nancy ja child is diagnosed with asd every 20 secondsFrom: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

I feel embarrassed to say that she lives only 20-30 minutes from us... I will definitely say "hi".

From: firk87 <firk87yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10 AM

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]

I sort of agree with you, because I do think my brother DOES need to limit his food more. However with his gluten sensitivity... he gets physically ill if he is in the same room as someone cooking pancakes... so I would think that the amount of gluten in the taco bell seasoning maybe low enough to not affect him, like in the PPB type quantity that makes a difference to some and not others. He doesn't read bio-med lists, he reads his gluten-free bulletin boards, and I guess there are people who do go to taco bell and are not affected. Yes, they consider the affect to be GI troubles, not "mental" so there is no way I am recommending people on bio-med lists go eat at Taco Bell!!! LOL I am just saying EVERY BODY is different. :-) Sorry for the

poor example. My bad. Shouldn't be comparing the two.I personally do not think my kids are being mentally/behaviorally affected by soy, however I do give the enzymes just in case and I seek to avoid soy as much as possible. If soy lecithin is in the "less than 2% of the ingredients" and this is something I feel we have to have, then I consider buying it.I use NN EPA Xtra and there is a reason I use it (EPA:DHA ratio) and Omega Brite has the same high ratio and also uses soy-based vitamin E preservative. I am not aware of a high EPA ratio Kirkman's product, if there is one available, I will try it.Re: "lactose intolerance" - well don't you think the people who say they are "lactose intolerant" could actually be reacting to the casein? It's not like there are many sources of lactose that are casein-free... most "lactose intolerant" people I know are avoiding standard-American-diet fare like Yoplait, regular milk, Breyer's Ice

Cream, etc not having a diarrhea reaction to some bio-med supplement that says "contains lactose (not milk derived), no casein." :-)PS Re: IGG testing, I know you recommend Alletess... do I need the doctor to sign the paper before they test, or can I just send the sample to them and have them send the doctor the results? Can I have the doctor draw the blood and send to them directly? I think if I asked my DAN to order IGG tests, he would want to go thru Great Plains, and they are much more expensive?? --- ToniTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 11:42:40 AMSubject: Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.



sadly many times its not that simple, if you haven't done a challege with removing it for week and then challengeing it to see what difference you see you may not have any idea how much so little can cause issues on a person. just like many people have no idea how much milk or gluten effect them till they remove it!

if your brother has celiac disease even that amount of gluten in the seasoning IS causing issues he just can't see it because it's interal on the intestinal wall. I see people all the time and their test results that THINK soy oil isn't causing issue or lecithin and then get their IGG results only to find there body is INFACT reacting to it, when they thought they were fine, they had NO other sources of soy protien in the diet ONLY the oils and emulsifiers. .....immune system is NOT that picky, it can react to anything NOT just protiens. heck think of lactose intollerence, the MOST recongnized reaction for intollerences and most accepted, not a protein my friend it's a sugar!

Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Many people are not sensitive to soy lecithin or soy oil because the protein has been extracted and protein is where the allergen lies. So a lot of people will have success with NN and other soy oil containing products. Some people are ultra-sensitive and even the small amount will have an effect.My brother has celiac disease and he can eat at taco bell (hard tacos) even though there is some gluten in the seasoning, but a cracker will make him sick all day (till he takes a gluten-ease capsule) Anyway, my point is, everyone's body is different... if NN is working for you, keep it but if you aren't seeing anything from your soy-containing oil, switch it! :-)

--- Toni

[Guest guest]



then I would look into neocate jr, that is exactly what it's for, feeding issues in bigger kids. GI dr's use it all the time with kids with colitis ect....for their main source of foods, if a dr ped is on base with you on all this WIC will even pay for it for you.

note the allergies and need for fomula and the rest is simpley taking it to your WIC deparentment

Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Hi. I wanted to ask an advice on which way to go to help my son. I would like to try biomedical treatment, but I don't want to rule out the homeopathy. Any suggestions?D.

[Guest guest]



no I don't think those who are lactose intollerant are reacting to the milk protien as they are still intaking milk just lactose free milk. so the example would still stand that you can react to "other" things then just protiens, enzymes play into that as well....for example if you are low in enzymes to fats you are more likly to see your child react to fats like they would with protiens, for example, my son lacks enzymes for fats, so he reacts to milk fat (ghee) and soy oil and letathin (emulsifier but soy derived). we have done secretin pushes via GI scope and shown this to be an issue. he also is low in carb and sugar enzymes. so he is also lactose intollerent, so lets say he couldnt' do coconut, I would NOT do a coconut sugar, or to maple, a maple sugar, as his IGG panel would show reactions to those items....

does that make sense?

kids with fat enzymes issues show via low muscle tone, low fat levels on their bodies, and floating stools. (watch do they sink or float)

as for your brother, celiac groups will tell you no more then 20PPM, some will say 10PPM depending how sensitive you are. if he reacts to air born he SHOULD fall into the 10PPM grouping...

my son also seizers with air born 3 days AFTER they have cooked with it in a room, can't do stickers, tape, stamps or envelope licking ect. used to have 80-100 seizers a day.....all solved with NO cc issues of gluten at all.

Re: Biomedical treatment or homeopathy.

Many people are not sensitive to soy lecithin or soy oil because the protein has been extracted and protein is where the allergen lies. So a lot of people will have success with NN and other soy oil containing products. Some people are ultra-sensitive and even the small amount will have an effect.My brother has celiac disease and he can eat at taco bell (hard tacos) even though there is some gluten in the seasoning, but a cracker will make him sick all day (till he takes a gluten-ease capsule) Anyway, my point is, everyone's body is different... if NN is working for you, keep it but if you aren't seeing anything from your soy-containing oil, switch it! :-)

--- Toni