Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Steve, I went through the same thing with my husband for three years. He was diagnosed with multiple myeloma in June of 2001. The first year we just followed MD 's protocol. I was diagnosed with BC in June 2002. I also followed the DR.'s protocol. During my treatment my husband came out of remission......Oops! Time to think beyond the Dr.'s knowledge and comprehension.....They never talked of nutrition or prevention...As a matter of fact most Dr.'s take a semester of nutrition while working on their medical degrees to learn what medicines will take care of what symptoms. When my husband went through a stem cell transplant using his own stem cells at MD they did monitor is nutritional levels for several things, and when he was low on something they would put it in his drip. or tell him what to eat to fix it.....It never happened at any other time. He came from an Italian family where love and food were connected, but there was also alot of sugary food, and vegetables cooked to the max with bread crumbs and fried. Trying to teach him that eating healthier would improve his chances was an uphill battle. As I would learn new things he would try some of them, but rejected others. During his disease he had symptoms of type 2 diabetes. When he was on steroids to try to kill of the disease he had to monitor his sugar levels as well. He spent a lot of energy trying to figure out how many sweets he could eat and what kind he could eat. After sepsis hit and the DR.'s rather gave up on seeing him ever recover he was willing to try anything and everything I had ever read would help.....Before that he just thought of me as pushy...In other words the more desperate he got, the more he would try I would mention what I had learned, and if he rejected it at first I would back off and hand it to the Lord, hoping he would do the convincing.I could not change who he was..I was thinking the other day, that now that I know what I know my children should be much wiser about their food choices......They don't see the benefits just yet, but hopefully they are listening......My husband died in June 04......georgia Steve wrote: Sometimes I feel like the husband should have a say in this. Can youimagine your husband surviving a heart attack then refusing to exerciseor eat better? How would you feel?--- Doris wrote:> > I am probably going to answer this differently than the rest but my> mother pushed food on my father when he had liver cancer and he was> miserable. I spoke with his doctor and he told me to try to get her> to> let him alone. He said that the stomach generates some kind of> chemical that helps with pain if it is not full. I did not check to> see if he knew what he was talking about but my dad did not have much> pain and that was a relief. He ate what he wanted and evidently what> his body needed. Bottom line is that it is your wife's body and> her> decision about food. Encourage her but don't push. She will> appreciate you more for not pushing. At least that is the way I> would feel. In the meantime, ask her doctor about how much and what> she should be eating and let him be the one to tell her. We can all> have a love/hate relationship with our doctors and it's okay; we> need> just the love with family and especially with our spouses. Doris> > > > > > > > > A year ago, my wife's ob/gyn detected a 1.2 cm mass in her breast> with> > a mammogram. It was biopsied and found to be malignant. We had a> > lumpectomy, then a sentinel node biopsy (in that order). The> > lymphectomy pathology report was negative. She then endured a> > treatment of "chemo lite" followed by radiation. During the> > radiation, she took Tamoxifen. The oncologist said that she had a> 96%> > chance of survival. We were VERY optimistic!> > > > A week after radiation, the oncologist ordered a blood test to> > determine the baseline of her CEA. To our devastating surprise,> the> > report came back elevated. The following CAT scan showed two> lesions> > in her liver. The breast cancer had matastisized.> > > > Luckily, a PET scan showed no other tumors in my wife. Her two> tumors> > were also on one side of her liver. She has since had a liver> > resection where 60% of her liver was removed, taking the tumors> with> > it. That was 5 weeks ago. She is still recovering from the> surgery.> > > > Since the chemotherapy induced menopause, she is now taking> Arimidex.> > > > My problem, other than the obvious, is this. Until her liver> > regenerates, she can't stand chemo. It may be two more months> before> > we begin that. In this period of wait time, I'm trying to support> her> > by reading about nutrition and its role in preventing and fighting> > cancer. We've got a Champion juicer and I buy organic fruits and> > vegetables to juice. Other than occasional fruit juices, though,> she> > doesn't like the taste of vegetable juices. I can put in small> > amounts of vegetables into the fruits when I juice, though, but she> > isn't getting enough. I can't convince her to eat or drink more. > > I've also tried to give her supplements, but she doesn't want them,> > either, other than a few vitamins and minerals. I'm afraid that> her> > cancer will reoccur. I love her very much and don't want to lose> her.> > I want to convince her to take nutrition seriously and recover.> > > > I don't know if I should push harder, or back off. I feel like a> > husband of a woman that has lung cancer but continues smoking....> > except it is even worse because I believe nutrition may help her.> > > > What do you think I should do?> > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I'm very sorry to hear about your husband, Georgia. My prayers are for your comfort, as well as for that of your children. Steve --- Marco or Georgia Mannino wrote: > Steve, I went through the same thing with my husband for three years. > He was diagnosed with multiple myeloma in June of 2001. The first > year we just followed MD 's protocol. I was diagnosed with > BC in June 2002. I also followed the DR.'s protocol. During my > treatment my husband came out of remission......Oops! Time to think > beyond the Dr.'s knowledge and comprehension.....They never talked of > nutrition or prevention...As a matter of fact most Dr.'s take a > semester of nutrition while working on their medical degrees to learn > what medicines will take care of what symptoms. When my husband went > through a stem cell transplant using his own stem cells at MD > they did monitor is nutritional levels for several things, > and when he was low on something they would put it in his drip. or > tell him what to eat to fix it.....It never happened at any other > time. He came from an Italian family where love and food were > connected, but there was also alot of sugary food, and > vegetables cooked to the max with bread crumbs and fried. Trying to > teach him that eating healthier would improve his chances was an > uphill battle. As I would learn new things he would try some of > them, but rejected others. During his disease he had symptoms of > type 2 diabetes. When he was on steroids to try to kill of the > disease he had to monitor his sugar levels as well. He spent a lot of > energy trying to figure out how many sweets he could eat and what > kind he could eat. After sepsis hit and the DR.'s rather gave up on > seeing him ever recover he was willing to try anything and everything > I had ever read would help.....Before that he just thought of me as > pushy...In other words the more desperate he got, the more he would > try I would mention what I had learned, and if he rejected it at > first I would back off and hand it to the Lord, hoping he would do > the convincing.I could not change who he was..I was thinking the > other day, that now that I know what I know my children > should be much wiser about their food choices......They don't see > the benefits just yet, but hopefully they are listening......My > husband died in June 04......georgia __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 How old are your children?...georgiaSteve wrote: Rereading your note again, it sounds as though you did a lot for yourhusband. I am also trying to support my wife the way you supportedyour husband.It is very frustrating, isn't it.--- Marco or Georgia Mannino wrote:> Steve, I went through the same thing with my husband for three years.> He was diagnosed with multiple myeloma in June of 2001. The first> year we just followed MD 's protocol. I was diagnosed with> BC in June 2002. I also followed the DR.'s protocol. During my> treatment my husband came out of remission......Oops! Time to think> beyond the Dr.'s knowledge and comprehension.....They never talked of> nutrition or prevention...As a matter of fact most Dr.'s take a> semester of nutrition while working on their medical degrees to learn> what medicines will take care of what symptoms. When my husband went> through a stem cell transplant using his own stem cells at MD> they did monitor is nutritional levels for several things,> and when he was low on something they would put it in his drip. or> tell him what to eat to fix it.....It never happened at any other> time. He came from an Italian family where love and food were> connected, but there was also alot of sugary food, and> vegetables cooked to the max with bread crumbs and fried. Trying to> teach him that eating healthier would improve his chances was an> uphill battle. As I would learn new things he would try some of> them, but rejected others. During his disease he had symptoms of> type 2 diabetes. When he was on steroids to try to kill of the> disease he had to monitor his sugar levels as well. He spent a lot of> energy trying to figure out how many sweets he could eat and what> kind he could eat. After sepsis hit and the DR.'s rather gave up on> seeing him ever recover he was willing to try anything and everything> I had ever read would help.....Before that he just thought of me as> pushy...In other words the more desperate he got, the more he would> try I would mention what I had learned, and if he rejected it at> first I would back off and hand it to the Lord, hoping he would do> the convincing.I could not change who he was..I was thinking the> other day, that now that I know what I know my children> should be much wiser about their food choices......They don't see> the benefits just yet, but hopefully they are listening......My> husband died in June 04......georgia> > > Steve wrote:> Sometimes I feel like the husband should have a say in this. Can you> imagine your husband surviving a heart attack then refusing to> exercise> or eat better? How would you feel? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Hi, Georgia, If this question is for me, I have 2 boys, 21 and 18. They are both off to college. One is going to a community college nearby, though. He's thinking of moving back home. Steve --- Marco or Georgia Mannino wrote: > How old are your children?...georgia > > Steve wrote:Rereading your note again, it sounds > as though you did a lot for your > husband. I am also trying to support my wife the way you supported > your husband. > > It is very frustrating, isn't it. > > --- Marco or Georgia Mannino wrote: > > > Steve, I went through the same thing with my husband for three > years. > > He was diagnosed with multiple myeloma in June of 2001. The first > > year we just followed MD 's protocol. I was diagnosed with > > BC in June 2002. I also followed the DR.'s protocol. During my > > treatment my husband came out of remission......Oops! Time to > think > > beyond the Dr.'s knowledge and comprehension.....They never talked > of > > nutrition or prevention...As a matter of fact most Dr.'s take a > > semester of nutrition while working on their medical degrees to > learn > > what medicines will take care of what symptoms. When my husband > went > > through a stem cell transplant using his own stem cells at MD > > they did monitor is nutritional levels for several things, > > and when he was low on something they would put it in his drip. or > > tell him what to eat to fix it.....It never happened at any other > > time. He came from an Italian family where love and food were > > connected, but there was also alot of sugary food, and > > vegetables cooked to the max with bread crumbs and fried. Trying > to > > teach him that eating healthier would improve his chances was an > > uphill battle. As I would learn new things he would try some of > > them, but rejected others. During his disease he had symptoms of > > type 2 diabetes. When he was on steroids to try to kill of the > > disease he had to monitor his sugar levels as well. He spent a lot > of > > energy trying to figure out how many sweets he could eat and what > > kind he could eat. After sepsis hit and the DR.'s rather gave up on > > seeing him ever recover he was willing to try anything and > everything > > I had ever read would help.....Before that he just thought of me as > > pushy...In other words the more desperate he got, the more he would > > try I would mention what I had learned, and if he rejected it at > > first I would back off and hand it to the Lord, hoping he would do > > the convincing.I could not change who he was..I was thinking the > > other day, that now that I know what I know my children > > should be much wiser about their food choices......They don't see > > the benefits just yet, but hopefully they are listening......My > > husband died in June 04......georgia > > > > > > Steve wrote: > > Sometimes I feel like the husband should have a say in this. Can > you > > imagine your husband surviving a heart attack then refusing to > > exercise > > or eat better? How would you feel? > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. > http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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