WHy can't I take theraflu? Sick as a DOG!

[Guest guest]

Hi Guys,

Why can't I take THERAFLU? I know certain products say if you have a

thyroid problem..., but why can't I take them? I am sick as a dog.

Just got over a two week cold with my kids, and then they got another

and so did I and it's even worse than the last. Help! What can I

take??? Everything says consult a doctor if you have thyroid disease

-UGH! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

There is stuff in cold medicines that will make someone that is hyper,

more hyper, and possibly lead to heard attack and death...

To be honest, though.. I've found most of the home remedy type stuff

works better for colds and such any way.. I up my vitamin C intake...

actually taking a bunch of pills and chopping them into quarters and

setting them on the desk and popping with down with some water every half

hour or so. C helps to clean the blood, allowing the white cells a

clearer field of battle to attack the little beasties that make us

sick... I also do peppermint tea, for the same reason..... But that's

just me....

If you take a dose of cold medicine, as a hypo... and your pulse rate

shoots up... don't take it anymore, if you are hyper, don't take it at

all.

With Hashi's... I'd stay away from it.. you don't know where you're

cycling at any given time.. so it might blind side you....

IMHO

Topper ()

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:16:23 -0000 " d_timmsjosey "

writes:

> Hi Guys,

>

> Why can't I take THERAFLU? I know certain products say if you have

> a

> thyroid problem..., but why can't I take them? I am sick as a dog.

> Just got over a two week cold with my kids, and then they got

> another

> and so did I and it's even worse than the last. Help! What can I

> take??? Everything says consult a doctor if you have thyroid

> disease

> -UGH! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Topper! I have a nasty head cold and I am aching everywhere. I

have sent the whole family away because we are moving in 4 days and I

would feel awful if my hubby got this. I cannot take these meds then

because I already have a fast heart rate to begin with, and now that I

am sick, my heart rate has been over 100 for the past few days, so I

guess I have to resist the theraflu. I have been popping vitamin c and

my vitamins. Hopefully tomorrow I will be feeling better enough to

finish packing - URGH! A stressful time indeed. We are moving back to

Canada. It's not really what we want to do, but my husband has

exhausted all avenues in finding a city where the pay will support us.

Anyway, Canada is expensive too, but we will have free healthcare and

my husband starts at $48K/year. Housing is a total rip at $178K for a

townhouse that is under 1300 sq feet on two levels and 45-50 minutes

from the city of Toronto. Lord, I hope we can do it. I stay home with

the babies, and it just doesn't make much sense me going back to work

just to pay for daycare and career clothing, gas etc... Okay, sorry

for verbally barfing, I am just in a panic, that's all .

[Guest guest]

Thank Topper. I knew sleep was good, but not that good. I have had 5

hours worth of naps today, so hopefully I am healing myself. Good to

know about the snot, because it is flying everywhere and I have gone

through 2 boxes of tissue already lol. This is good new then. Perhaps

I will feel well enough tomorrow to get stuff done (crossing my fingers).

Did you know that for YEARS when I got sick, I would feel like I had a

fever, but would check my temp and it would be 97.5 or 98.2 etc... The

highest fevers I would get would be like 99.5 etc... My mother said

that we all (meaning the women in our family) have fevers that do the

opposite. I thought that a low grade fever was a fever that went the

other way - DUH! Although I have known that that is not the case for a

few years, I now can definatively say that I have had Hashi's for

years because of my fevers. My body temps must have been in the 95's

or 96's, and the fevers would only cause the temp to rise into the

97's or 98's. Interesting huh? I see now why we have a harder time

fighting colds. You need that body temp to go up to kill off the

virus/bacteria. Fevers in the 97's or 98's are just not going to do

that for you.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I've never taken Thera-flu...but did have a horrible reaction to

Tylenol Sinus Allergy meds. I kept waking up and gasping for breath. This was

all before I was diagnosed (aobut 10 years b4) yet that has stuck with me and I

realized that my thyroid disease was probably the culprit. NOw that I am on

Armour Thyroid (generic)..I am not sure if I still cannot take drugs like

that. I get horrible bad sinus/allergy headaches...and am taking tylenol with

codiene, it really helps but I dont think the doc will continue to prescribe

them because of the fear of becoming addicted. Does any one know if it is ok to

take these types of cold meds if hypo yet on Armour?

HUgs...PattiSue

WHy can't I take theraflu? Sick as a DOG!

Hi Guys,

Why can't I take THERAFLU? I know certain products say if you have a

thyroid problem..., but why can't I take them? I am sick as a dog.

Just got over a two week cold with my kids, and then they got another

and so did I and it's even worse than the last. Help! What can I

take??? Everything says consult a doctor if you have thyroid disease

-UGH! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Also, if we can't take this, then what do we take? I take tylenol sinus

with no adverse reactions (about 3 times in the last month). If I do

tolerate it, is there any reason why I shouldn't take it anyway? Like

adverse effects on the thyroid?

-----Original Message-----

From: VITO LABELLARTE

I've never taken Thera-flu...but did have a horrible reaction to Tylenol

Sinus Allergy meds. .......... Does any one know if it is ok to take

these types of cold meds if hypo yet on Armour?

HUgs...PattiSue

[Guest guest]

My docs said that it was okay... but for the time that I couldn't take

anything after my RAI, while waiting for the T4 to get used up in my body

from being so hyper... I found other ways.... and use those now....

Topper ()

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:14:43 -0500 " VITO LABELLARTE "

writes:

> Hi , I've never taken Thera-flu...but did have a horrible

> reaction to Tylenol Sinus Allergy meds. I kept waking up and

> gasping for breath. This was all before I was diagnosed (aobut 10

> years b4) yet that has stuck with me and I realized that my thyroid

> disease was probably the culprit. NOw that I am on Armour Thyroid

> (generic)..I am not sure if I still cannot take drugs like that.

> I get horrible bad sinus/allergy headaches...and am taking tylenol

> with codiene, it really helps but I dont think the doc will continue

> to prescribe them because of the fear of becoming addicted. Does

> any one know if it is ok to take these types of cold meds if hypo

> yet on Armour?

> HUgs...PattiSue

[Guest guest]

It's my understanding that it does no damage to the thyroid... it's the

drugs in the cold medication that stimulate the body and can cause

dangerous speeding up of the heart.

I steam for congestion, I do vitamin C and peppermint tea to keep my

blood clean and to keep my self hydrated so that my body can produce and

expell mucous and keep blowing my nose to get all the gunk out as kickly

as possible... no sniffling and waiting until later.. if my body produces

enough to get out... I get it out..

.... our bodies can fight the cold but need help to do it... To me...

taking cold medicines that dry the nasal passages to make breathing

easier and mute the aches and pains also make it harder for our bodies to

fight the cold. Since I've been doing it this way... my colds can get a

bit nasty for a day or two... but then the rest of the time I seem to be

a LOT less miserable than folks using cold stuff... I might be my

perspective... I admit to that...

I wear a hat to keep my body temp up, even to bed! I also make sure to

eat... our bodies need the calories to fight.. skipping meals means more

work for our bodies. BUT, it's tiny meals when sick, easy to digest

food... I do a lot of soup.

... yep... I'm weird.... heheheh I'll say if first... hehehehehe

Topper ()

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:12:00 -0600 Debbie K

writes:

> Also, if we can't take this, then what do we take? I take tylenol

> sinus

> with no adverse reactions (about 3 times in the last month). If I

> do

> tolerate it, is there any reason why I shouldn't take it anyway?

> Like adverse effects on the thyroid?

[Guest guest]

Make note; add hat to the outfit for Topper!

Re: WHy can't I take theraflu? Sick as a

DOG!

It's my understanding that it does no damage to the thyroid... it's the

drugs in the cold medication that stimulate the body and can cause

dangerous speeding up of the heart.

[Guest guest]

Really excellent advise, !! You are absolutely on the right track here.

Through

my nursing experiences, we as a society are so intolerant of tolerating the

natural

responses to colds and such that we take something the minute a symptom comes

along -- totally oblivious to the fact that we have these horrible responses to

bugs

for a reason. Like the mucous production, the runny noses, coughing, etc. They

all

serve a purpose and in suppressing them with " remedies " in the form of drugs, it

only

prolongs the process of healing. We all think we have to quickly feel good so

we can

get back to work or whatever when actually, all we're really doing is going back

to

work and out into the population with still-active bugs and infecting everyone

else.

We feel like crap so we'll stay home and in bed or on the couch so we won't

infect

everyone else!! As a nurse, I won't even treat an elevated temp until it's at

least 100

MINIMUM (or the patient really feels like crap! -- everyone's different!) unless

it's

ordered otherwise. Some docs are even writing orders for Tylenol and such only

to

be given if the temp is 100.2 or greater. A great thing! Fever is there for a

natural

purpose. I just hate it when some nurses medicate with Tylenol at barely over

99!!

Thanks also for reminding me of these great natural remedies! Some of these

have

been around for years and it just goes to show our ancestors weren't dumb. They

didn't have the drugs to counteract the normal responses and that's probably a

really

good thing!

Janet

> It's my understanding that it does no damage to the thyroid... it's the

> drugs in the cold medication that stimulate the body and can cause

> dangerous speeding up of the heart.

>

> I steam for congestion, I do vitamin C and peppermint tea to keep my

> blood clean and to keep my self hydrated so that my body can produce and

> expell mucous and keep blowing my nose to get all the gunk out as kickly

> as possible... no sniffling and waiting until later.. if my body produces

> enough to get out... I get it out..

>

> ... our bodies can fight the cold but need help to do it... To me...

> taking cold medicines that dry the nasal passages to make breathing

> easier and mute the aches and pains also make it harder for our bodies to

> fight the cold. Since I've been doing it this way... my colds can get a

> bit nasty for a day or two... but then the rest of the time I seem to be

> a LOT less miserable than folks using cold stuff... I might be my

> perspective... I admit to that...

>

> I wear a hat to keep my body temp up, even to bed! I also make sure to

> eat... our bodies need the calories to fight.. skipping meals means more

> work for our bodies. BUT, it's tiny meals when sick, easy to digest

> food... I do a lot of soup.

>

> .. yep... I'm weird.... heheheh I'll say if first... hehehehehe

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:12:00 -0600 Debbie K <kirkland@s...>

> writes:

> > Also, if we can't take this, then what do we take? I take tylenol

> > sinus

> > with no adverse reactions (about 3 times in the last month). If I

> > do

> > tolerate it, is there any reason why I shouldn't take it anyway?

> > Like adverse effects on the thyroid?

[Guest guest]

More really wise info, ! Not only from experience but from a theoretical

point of

view, too. Everyone should read this and live by it! As I said before, the

body is not

stupid and its responses to bugs are there for a reason. Suppressing any of

these

responses just makes things worse.

Janet

> Janet,

>

> Personally, I don't worry about a fever, in me, until it hit's 101... I

> stay bundled up, where my hat and socks to keep heat in. Food and drink

> is hot or no colder than room temp, to keep internal temp from

> dropping.... and just let it cook. I still feel crappy. It doesn't make

> everything go away.. but I sure seem to get over the bugs quicker letting

> my body do to the battle.

>

> Gosh.. you've reminded me of how angry I used to get at coworkers that

> were always popping cold pills and always sick... I'd get grief over my

> hand washing... But it's the best way to not infect you with the germs

> that they are spreading!

>

> That was when I was on enough med to still be able to catch a cold. It's

> funny. When I was hyper I didn't get sick EVER I went like 8 years

> without so much as a sniffle. My body was pumping too much heat, the bugs

> couldn't survive. Then, during periods of time when I was VERY hypo, my

> body temp was too low for the bugs to survive.... That's why I was so

> happy when I came down with my first cold after getting on Naturals.. I

> was finally getting well enough to have a body temp high enough for the

> bugs to survive! The sucky part was that I couldn't produce enough heat

> yet to cook them out... I was sick for over a month... but I got over it.

>

> Oh.. that reminds me... after my RAI my endo sat me down with a lecture.

> For all the years that I way hyper, with the body heat pump thing going

> on, I was not 'exposed' to a lot of the germs that were out... so she

> said that as my body slowed and went hypo and then I got on meds and came

> back up to normal, that I'd be vulnerable to a LOT of bugs that my body

> had not developed anti-bodies for... so I should plan on getting sick a

> LOT and that I shouldn't be taking anything for it... that I needed to

> let my body develop defenses for the bugs that it had not been exposed

> to... The first couple of years were horrid... but I do believe that she

> was right. I went through that 'exposure' stage and then was a LOT LESS

> susceptible to the bugs every one else was getting. One other thing she

> told me, and she was right. To stay away from folks getting a flu shot

> and to never get one myself.... In all the years that they've been giving

> flu shots and I've been within touching distance of someone that got one

> for the first three days after... I always get the flu. If I know they've

> gotten the shot and stay away from them that first three days, I don't

> get sick.

>

> I've gotten into arguments from folks about that.... The last time it

> happened... my dad

> 'forgot' to tell me he was getting his shot. He was having trouble with

> the puter and asked me to come out and help. I was sitting in the chair

> and typing at the keyboard, and came down with it.... His comment...

> maybe you should have gotten the shot! Yeah... I never leave the house..

> Hadn't seen anyone for a couple of weeks. The only person that I'd been

> near was him... and the only contact we had was via the chair and

> keyboard..... Now, were did I get exposed????? If he'd told me he'd

> gotten the shot I would have carefully washed my hands after......

> Arrrgghhhhh

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 05:38:12 -0000 " whitecap89 " <ggmts@c...>

> writes:

> > Really excellent advise, !! You are absolutely on the right

> > track here. Through

> > my nursing experiences, we as a society are so intolerant of

> > tolerating the natural

> > responses to colds and such that we take something the minute a

> > symptom comes

> > along -- totally oblivious to the fact that we have these horrible

> > responses to bugs

> > for a reason. Like the mucous production, the runny noses,

> > coughing, etc. They all

> > serve a purpose and in suppressing them with " remedies " in the form

> > of drugs, it only

> > prolongs the process of healing. We all think we have to quickly

> > feel good so we can

> > get back to work or whatever when actually, all we're really doing

> > is going back to

> > work and out into the population with still-active bugs and

> > infecting everyone else.

> > We feel like crap so we'll stay home and in bed or on the couch so

> > we won't infect

> > everyone else!! As a nurse, I won't even treat an elevated temp

> > until it's at least 100

> > MINIMUM (or the patient really feels like crap! -- everyone's

> > different!) unless it's

> > ordered otherwise. Some docs are even writing orders for Tylenol

> > and such only to

> > be given if the temp is 100.2 or greater. A great thing! Fever is

> > there for a natural

> > purpose. I just hate it when some nurses medicate with Tylenol at

> > barely over 99!!

> > Thanks also for reminding me of these great natural remedies! Some

> > of these have

> > been around for years and it just goes to show our ancestors weren't

> > dumb. They

> > didn't have the drugs to counteract the normal responses and that's

> > probably a really

> > good thing!

> >

> > Janet

[Guest guest]

Growing up my mom always used to say a low grade fever was bad too.

It meant that your body was trying to fight an infection.

But with hypo it becomes interesting. There have been times I've felt

hot and with a cheap digital thermometer my temp was 98.6 or so.

Phooey!!!

Louise who doesn't have the patience to take my basal temp. As soon

as I start stirring my doggie will want to get up.