Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 I have recently upped my armour, and I was wondering how much everyone else is taking...how do I know if I am taking too much? I still have midday fatigue, and I am not entirely 'me' again, but I am so much better than before I worry about overdoing it and getting into that 'thyroid storm.' What are the warning signs? Right now I'm at about 3 1/2 grains, and my weight loss seems to have stopped. I am nowhere near the powerhouse I used to be, but after so many years of barely being able to move, it's hard to tell how far off I am. So...does my dosage sound low? 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 I was on 2 grains for several months, then I went up to 2 1/2 for about a month, then 3 for about another month, now I just added another half. In that time, my migraines have almost totally gone away, but I still don't feel like my energy level is where is should be, and my weight loss that started several months ago has stopped. I still get cold, but the moodiness has improved. Is it possible to regain our 'old' metabolism with the proper dose? I was one of those people who couldn't keep weight on before my thyroid went nuts, now I am still packing about 35 extra pounds. I have not been able to get an appointment with a top doc in my area, but my insurance kicks in soon, so I may have better luck. My main concern was, is 4 grains or 4 1/2 an outrageously high dose? Because that seems to be the next step. Are there any obvious signs when you raise your dose too high? 8) > Ok. Let me ask you a question or two. What were you on before the 3 > 1/2 grains, and whatever it was, how long were you on it?? > > Many of us are on less than you. Some are on as much as more. > > Janie aka ThyroDiva > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 OK. Then you were on 3 grains for at least 4 weeks--that's good. I was afraid you were rising fast enough that you weren't seeing the effect of the T4, which takes time to build--thus it takes time to see what conversion to T3 will do for you. There are a couple of comments to give you about your question as to whether 4 grains is high. First, there are a couple of folks here who need that much and more!! So no, it's not too high if you need it! And even Dr. Derry has commented that before the TSH came into existence (and skewed badly how much thyroid people needed), most folks were on 3 grains and higher. I am only on 2 3/4 grain, but my thyroid may be producing more than you. Sometimes I think that if you multi-dose, you take less than those who take it all at once, but I can't prove that. I also note that folks who do Armour sublingually can take a bit less than those who swallow. Also, since estrogen, iron, and calcium bind the T's, you can also require more. If you go too high, you might notice your heart palping, or a feeling of anxiety, or trembling of the hands.... Check your temp, too. One doc told a gal here that if it's up to 99, it's a sure sign you are on too much. As far as metabolism, I still have the metabolism of a slug, but it's not as bad as it used to be. And I'm supplementing with testosterone, and I think that's going to make a difference in the long run. I have returned to doing some aerobic walking and some weight lifting, so it will be interesting to see what having a higher testosterone will do. The more muscle you have, the more calories you burn. Janie, slugging along LOL > My main concern was, is 4 grains or 4 1/2 an outrageously high dose? > Because that seems to be the next step. Are there any obvious signs > when you raise your dose too high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 I really need to buy a thermometer, but as cold as I feel most of the time, I would be I'm nowhere near 99! Does 'overdosing' on armour give hyper symptoms? So far no heart palps or jitteryness. 8) > OK. Then you were on 3 grains for at least 4 weeks--that's good. I > was afraid you were rising fast enough that you weren't seeing the > effect of the T4, which takes time to build--thus it takes time to > see what conversion to T3 will do for you. > > There are a couple of comments to give you about your question as to > whether 4 grains is high. First, there are a couple of folks here > who need that much and more!! So no, it's not too high if you need > it! And even Dr. Derry has commented that before the TSH came into > existence (and skewed badly how much thyroid people needed), most > folks were on 3 grains and higher. > > I am only on 2 3/4 grain, but my thyroid may be producing more than > you. > > Sometimes I think that if you multi-dose, you take less than those > who take it all at once, but I can't prove that. I also note that > folks who do Armour sublingually can take a bit less than those who > swallow. > > Also, since estrogen, iron, and calcium bind the T's, you can also > require more. > > If you go too high, you might notice your heart palping, or a > feeling of anxiety, or trembling of the hands.... Check your temp, > too. One doc told a gal here that if it's up to 99, it's a sure sign > you are on too much. > > As far as metabolism, I still have the metabolism of a slug, but > it's not as bad as it used to be. And I'm supplementing with > testosterone, and I think that's going to make a difference in the > long run. I have returned to doing some aerobic walking and some > weight lifting, so it will be interesting to see what having a > higher testosterone will do. The more muscle you have, the more > calories you burn. > > Janie, slugging along LOL > > > > My main concern was, is 4 grains or 4 1/2 an outrageously high > dose? > > Because that seems to be the next step. Are there any obvious > signs > > when you raise your dose too high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 > Does 'overdosing' on armour give hyper symptoms? So far no heart > palps or jitteryness. Yes, it can give you hyper-like symptoms. (And for the sake of others reading this, so can low Ferritin when you try in increase. Low Ferritin can give you HYPO symptoms (achiness, fatigue, hair loss), but when you try in increase, it can also give you HYPER symptoms (palps, jitteriness, anxiety etc). Boy do I know all these!!) Janie, riding the low Ferritin train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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