Re: Staying away from social gatherings etc...

March 29, 2004

..... When I began getting better on Armour, one of my friends confided in

me that while I was sick she was concerned because I became very quiet. She

said it threw her for a loop because I have always been out going and easy going

in new crowds etc...

I didn't see myself as quiet...yet I guess I really did get that way. If I

look back I did the same thing...I would just be more of a listener in a group

of people. I remember being totally afraid of saying something stupid or

backwards...I did it all the time. And still today when I am having a bad

day....that is one of the first things to happen...I can't talk right, I stutter

and trip over my words. So I do know exactly what you are saying.....and it

makes all the sense in the world.

I trust that you will come out of the introversion when your meds start working.

Hugs...PattiSue

Staying away from social gatherings etc...

I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become more

introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed over the

years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have a hard

time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all comes out the wrong

way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have had an

exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember my 3rd birthday

for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I had when I was 3

(in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has dwindled over

the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I know that I have

thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained and I can

breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly feel that my

introversion is because of this slow decline of mental function. Hum!

Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody else feel the same way?

March 29, 2004

Hits home for me.... You do feel so.. stupid.... just cause stuff

sometimes comes out all inside out....

Topper ()

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:46:12 -0000 " d_timmsjosey "

writes:

> I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become more

> introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed over

> the

> years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have a hard

> time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all comes out the

> wrong

> way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have had an

> exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember my 3rd

> birthday

> for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I had when I was

> 3

> (in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has dwindled

> over

> the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I know that I

> have

> thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained and I can

> breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly feel that my

> introversion is because of this slow decline of mental function.

> Hum!

> Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody else feel the

> same way?

>

March 29, 2004

I used to do that a LOT right after my RAI... but I had an added

treat... my teeth would chatter and I'd shiver!

even if it was 90 degrees!

The more serious the conversation, the more concern I had for how the

other person perceived me.. the more likely I'd turn red, chatter and

shiver....

Now... Imagine what my conversations with my boss were like! He was

pretty cool, though.. he was the first one to comment on symptoms that he

saw in me... NO ONE else did!

Topper ()

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:49:12 -0000 " d_timmsjosey "

writes:

> One more thing, I also get totaly flushed all across my chest and

> neck

> (sometimes even my face) when I get in those situation and get

> nervous. That's another reason I hate social gatherings. I look

> like

> some diseased person standing there and everybody's eyes are glued

> to

> my blotchy chest and neck lol.

>

March 29, 2004

> ..... When I began getting better on Armour, one of my friends

confided in me that while I was sick she was concerned because I

became very quiet.

Thanks PattiSue for sharing that with me. It really does make me feel

like I am not this eccentric former version of myself. Well I am, but

at least I now know why and have faith that it will get better .

March 29, 2004

Yes,

I can remember the " Brownie Creed " from when I was in Brownies,(waaay

back in the early 70's) but ask me what I had for dinner last

night...go ahead, ask me....I DON'T KNOW!

Sherry

> I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become more

> introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed over

the

> years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have a hard

> time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all comes out the

wrong

> way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have had an

> exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember my 3rd birthday

> for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I had when I

was 3

> (in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has dwindled over

> the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I know that I have

> thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained and I can

> breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly feel that my

> introversion is because of this slow decline of mental function.

Hum!

> Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody else feel the

same way?

>

March 29, 2004

I forgot to add how when I speak, I'm misunderstood. Like some weird

aphasia. You know what you WANT to say, but then what DID you say?

I'm FOND of capital letters today

SHERRY

> > I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become

more

> > introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed over

> the

> > years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have a hard

> > time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all comes out the

> wrong

> > way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have had an

> > exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember my 3rd

birthday

> > for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I had when I

> was 3

> > (in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has dwindled

over

> > the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I know that I

have

> > thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained and I can

> > breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly feel that my

> > introversion is because of this slow decline of mental function.

> Hum!

> > Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody else feel the

> same way?

> >

March 29, 2004

Dear , I am so glad to be able to help even in a small way. I trust

that you will be feeling your old self in no time at all.

Hugs..PattiSue

Re: Staying away from social gatherings

etc...

> ..... When I began getting better on Armour, one of my friends

confided in me that while I was sick she was concerned because I

became very quiet.

Thanks PattiSue for sharing that with me. It really does make me feel

like I am not this eccentric former version of myself. Well I am, but

at least I now know why and have faith that it will get better .

March 29, 2004

I can relate to this too. I often am so worried about how I'm reacting to

someone when they are speaking that I'm not listening to what they are saying.

The bad part is I then don't know how to answer because I don't know what they

said. Of course then I worry about sounding stupid. It just goes on and on and

on....

Shelli

The more serious the conversation, the more concern I had for how the

other person perceived me.. the more likely I'd turn red, chatter and

shiver....

Now... Imagine what my conversations with my boss were like! He was

pretty cool, though.. he was the first one to comment on symptoms that he

saw in me... NO ONE else did!

Topper ()

March 29, 2004

Are you Canadian? I don't think there are Brownies in the States are

there? How about: on my honour I must try. There's a duty to be done

and I say I. There's a reason here and a reason above. My honour is to

try and my duty is love. Hah! Just remembered that . Did you sing

that song too?

> Yes,

> I can remember the " Brownie Creed " from when I was in Brownies,(waaay

> back in the early 70's) but ask me what I had for dinner last

> night...go ahead, ask me....I DON'T KNOW!

> Sherry

>

> > I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become more

> > introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed over

> the

> > years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have a hard

> > time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all comes out the

> wrong

> > way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have had an

> > exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember my 3rd birthday

> > for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I had when I

> was 3

> > (in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has dwindled over

> > the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I know that I have

> > thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained and I can

> > breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly feel that my

> > introversion is because of this slow decline of mental function.

> Hum!

> > Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody else feel the

> same way?

> >

March 29, 2004

I would love to become a hermit, but family prevents it. I have a

daughter who I have not finished raising. I day dream of taking the

fifth-wheel camper and roaming the country for three or four months...

just me and daughter... nobody to answer to, only doing what she and I

want to do.

I don't like socializing b/c I don't " think on my feet " . I get tht

" loss of words " too. I can't go back and forth with people, either

teasing or serious conversation. I get away from the situation and

think of what I could have said. I think it the short term memory

problem that comes with being hypo. Maybe it well clear when I reach

the optimum level of Armour, but at the rate I'm going it will be a

while.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Staying away from social gatherings

etc...

I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become more

introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed over the

years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have a hard

time spitting stuff out

March 29, 2004

I could write lengthy posts on this thread, but I'll just say dittos,

dittos, dittos, to everything that's being said. and all, I feel

the same way. Good to know I'm not the only one and that it may someday

be over.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

March 29, 2004

Hi,

Boy does this describe me to a tee in more than many ways...I'd like

to say DITTO to all of this tread!

It's nice to know that I am not the only one with these difficulties.

Gossimer

> I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly become

more

> introverted and have avoided social settings.

March 29, 2004

In my case I had was broadsided on the drivers side door and took a

major whack on the head so sometimes things don't come out the way

they should. I was telling my friend at work that I was looking at

these townhouses but I couldn't see any " doors " on the fences. When I

was driving home it hit me - I meant GATES not doors!!!!!!

I would love to be around people but don't have many friends or

family and to do things with. I am going to church so that is helping

a little bit.

Louise

PS They had a press conference with Steve - the Colorado

Avalanche player. Someone asked him if he remembered the hit. He said

he had about 30 minutes of amnesia - 15 minutes before and 15 minutes

after. With my accident there are 2 hours that I don't remember. Keep

in mind he's an athlete and younger than me but still.

March 29, 2004

I don't hink I've ever told this, but I had a head injury also. Wiped

out all of my day except for two glimpses. I was fourteen and riding a

horse when the girth strap broke. We were on a hard clay road and I was

galloping up a hill. When the strap broke, I came off and bumped my

head. I was out for eight hours. It wiped out my whole day, except for

two glimpses. One is about a one second glimpse when I tied the horse up

before going riding, I just remember yanking the rope. The other was on

the ride, I was up front a good ways and looked back to see if the

others were comming. That was only a second or two. I woke up in the

hospital and had a three day stay. Hmmm sure are a lot of us here with

noggin knocks.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Re: Staying away from social

gatherings etc...

In my case I had was broadsided on the drivers side door and took a

major whack on the head so sometimes things don't come out the way

they should. I was telling my friend at work that I was looking at

March 30, 2004

I'm sure this must be a hypo thing. It first happened to me shortly after I

had started a new job, now I know that is a stressful thing in itself but it had

never bothered me before.

Anyway, I started this new job and every time I opened my mouth to talk to

someone I would blush to the roots of my hair....and then because I was

embarassed about this it would make things even worse.

Looking back, I think this was the start of my hypo as it was around that time

that the brain fog started. I remember pouring grapefruit juice, instead of

milk, over my breakfast cereal one morning and wondering what the & *%^ I was

doing. The insomnia also started then and I had nausea for months.

But I think the main reason for me avoiding social gatherings now is that I just

can't be bothered - it is just toooooooo much effort!

Lynda (in the UK)

Staying away from social gatherings etc...

One more thing, I also get totaly flushed all across my chest and neck

(sometimes even my face) when I get in those situation and get

nervous. That's another reason I hate social gatherings. I look like

some diseased person standing there and everybody's eyes are glued to

my blotchy chest and neck lol.

March 30, 2004

There are brownies in the US - I was one and I'm from NY.

Re: Staying away from social

gatherings etc...

Are you Canadian? I don't think there are Brownies in the States

are

there? How about: on my honour I must try. There's a duty to be

done

and I say I. There's a reason here and a reason above. My honour

is to

try and my duty is love. Hah! Just remembered that . Did you

sing

that song too?

> Yes,

> I can remember the " Brownie Creed " from when I was in

Brownies,(waaay

> back in the early 70's) but ask me what I had for dinner last

> night...go ahead, ask me....I DON'T KNOW!

> Sherry

>

> > I just thought of another reason why I have increasingly

become more

> > introverted and have avoided social settings. I have noticed

over

> the

> > years that I become lost for words in conversations. I have

a hard

> > time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all comes out

the

> wrong

> > way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have had an

> > exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember my 3rd

birthday

> > for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I had

when I

> was 3

> > (in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has

dwindled over

> > the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I know

that I have

> > thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained and I

can

> > breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly feel

that my

> > introversion is because of this slow decline of mental

function.

> Hum!

> > Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody else feel

the

> same way?

> >

_____

March 30, 2004

Brownies are part of the Girl Scouts which originated in Savannah,

Georgia in 1912.

Re: Staying away from

social

gatherings etc...

Are you Canadian? I don't think there are Brownies in the

States

are

there? How about: on my honour I must try. There's a duty

to be

done

and I say I. There's a reason here and a reason above. My

honour

is to

try and my duty is love. Hah! Just remembered that . Did

you

sing

that song too?

> Yes,

> I can remember the " Brownie Creed " from when I was in

Brownies,(waaay

> back in the early 70's) but ask me what I had for dinner

last

> night...go ahead, ask me....I DON'T KNOW!

> Sherry

>

> > I just thought of another reason why I have

increasingly

become more

> > introverted and have avoided social settings. I have

noticed

over

> the

> > years that I become lost for words in conversations. I

have

a hard

> > time spitting stuff out and then when I do, it all

comes out

the

> wrong

> > way. That's embarrassing. I will also add that I have

had an

> > exceptional memory my whole life. I mean, I remember

my 3rd

birthday

> > for crying out loud and I also remember a bad dream I

had

when I

> was 3

> > (in detail I might add). This super memory of mine has

dwindled over

> > the years to the point where it is GONE! Now that I

know

that I have

> > thyroid disease, the memory loss is finally explained

and I

can

> > breathe a sigh of relief to some degree, but I truly

feel

that my

> > introversion is because of this slow decline of mental

function.

> Hum!

> > Just talking or typing out loud with this. Anybody

else feel

the

> same way?

> >

_____

March 30, 2004

Grapefruit juice over cereal? Now I don't feel so bad about going to the

microwave, and actually opening it, to get a cucumber to make a salad.

The microwave and fridge face each other, on opposite sides of the room!

Topper ()

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:13:40 +0100 " Lynda "

writes:

> I'm sure this must be a hypo thing. It first happened to me shortly

> after I had started a new job, now I know that is a stressful thing

> in itself but it had never bothered me before.

> Anyway, I started this new job and every time I opened my mouth to

> talk to someone I would blush to the roots of my hair....and then

> because I was embarrassed about this it would make things even

> worse.

> Looking back, I think this was the start of my hypo as it was around

> that time that the brain fog started. I remember pouring

> grapefruit juice, instead of milk, over my breakfast cereal one

> morning and wondering what the & *%^ I was doing. The insomnia also

> started then and I had nausea for months.

> But I think the main reason for me avoiding social gatherings now is

> that I just can't be bothered - it is just toooooooo much effort!

> Lynda (in the UK)

March 30, 2004

yeah, I keep doing stuff like that. Had gone shopping and knew I had bought a

packet of dusters (don't know what you call them in the US - dust cloths?)

Anyway, a couple of days later I couldn't find them. Found them in the

freezer!

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: Staying away from social gatherings

etc...

Grapefruit juice over cereal? Now I don't feel so bad about going to the

microwave, and actually opening it, to get a cucumber to make a salad.

The microwave and fridge face each other, on opposite sides of the room!

Topper ()

March 30, 2004

-I've been reading everyones stories and symptoms for the last 3

weeks and thinking back on how I have felt over the years and

particularly this year. It's amazing and great to know what has

been going on with my body. In all these years (30) I have never

had a doc schedule regular blood work or even be concerned or maybe

even remember that I had no thyroid. Actually thinking back they

ALL attributed my problems to " nerves, depression,anxiety,

yada,yada,yada " and of course medicated me with the appropriate

drugs. At the moment I'm on effexor and will be weaning myself off

in a couple of weeks after my body had a chance to get used to

armour and dhea. Folks it is nice to know that these symptoms are

not just " getting old " I am trying to assimilate all this info but

am still confused about a few things. By the way what is ferritin

and what does it do? Onwward and Upward!!

-- In NaturalThyroidHormones , topper2@j... wrote:

> Grapefruit juice over cereal? Now I don't feel so bad about going

to the

> microwave, and actually opening it, to get a cucumber to make a

salad.

> The microwave and fridge face each other, on opposite sides of the

room!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:13:40 +0100 " Lynda " <lyn.worth@n...>

> writes:

> > I'm sure this must be a hypo thing. It first happened to me

shortly

> > after I had started a new job, now I know that is a stressful

thing

> > in itself but it had never bothered me before.

> > Anyway, I started this new job and every time I opened my mouth

to

> > talk to someone I would blush to the roots of my hair....and

then

> > because I was embarrassed about this it would make things even

> > worse.

> > Looking back, I think this was the start of my hypo as it was

around

> > that time that the brain fog started. I remember pouring

> > grapefruit juice, instead of milk, over my breakfast cereal one

> > morning and wondering what the & *%^ I was doing. The insomnia

also

> > started then and I had nausea for months.

> > But I think the main reason for me avoiding social gatherings

now is

> > that I just can't be bothered - it is just toooooooo much effort!

> > Lynda (in the UK)

March 30, 2004

So sad ..... so very , very sad. . ;-(

-----Original Message-----

From: aggiemomo

In all these years (30) I have never

had a doc schedule regular blood work or even be concerned or maybe

even remember that I had no thyroid.

March 30, 2004

Here's another one...does anyone have this problem...I'm afraid to call people

by name because I'm afraid of screwing up and calling them by the wrong name,

which I've done quite a bit. So instead of saying " Hi so and so " , I'll just say

" Hi " . And if I have to introduce people to each other... oh my God! I panic.