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Dear Leila,

I am sure I remember Dr. Peatfield in his book, saying that extremely low

DHEA and extremely high DHEA are connected to Adrenal insufficiency...

please hang on one more day and I will try and research a bit for you...

just give it one more day and I will try and find the page where its

mentioned..

Jane

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> Hi all, well, nobody wrote me back about my question about my DHEA levels

> being too high.

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> I think I am going to leave this list. You all have hypo and talk about

> taking supplements.

>

> I am the opposite. I have too high levels of everything. Too high insulin,

> DHEA, and thyroid. I don't need supplements. I need to reduce my levels.

>

> I've asked you all many times for help but I think you all are just so

> different than me, I don't belong here.

>

> Thanks and good luck to everybody in your health.

>

> Leila Armush

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Dear Leila,

Well as I promised, I am back... I am referring to Dr. Peatfields book

where I originally saw something written about high DHEA. so

will just copy it directly...

on page 99 of this book The Great Thyroid Scandal ..

he is talking about testing for low adrenal reserve and the

unreliability of most tests..

One blood test i have found a useful indicator is the serum

DHEA sulphate. The adrenals actually produce more DHEA

than any other hormone; so a low DHEA level is an

indication of a weakened adrenal funtion. However,

in patients with low adrenal reserve of long standing there may

be an interruption of the biochemical pathway within the

adrenals where the pro-hormone pregnenolone (see Chapter

Eleven) is converted to cortisone. When this happens the

amount of DHEA may actually build up, with the

cortisone showing an abnormal flat response during the

day. This is the well demonstrated quite commonly

by the salivary adrenal function tests. Low

cortisone and high DHEA is also a sign of an

abnomal adrenal response.

on page 182..

At some point during the investigations, the levels of DHEA

should be checked. Serum cortisol is pretty unreliable

and the patient should perhaps be encouraged to undertake

salivary estimation of these two levels. Low DHEA and low

cortisol with suggest adrenal exhaustion. A high DHEA

and a variable or low cortisol level is strong evidence that

the glucocorticoid pathway from pregnenolone to cortisol

is interrupted. DHEA will suppress the over-response

of adrenal function (in a dose of 25-50 mg daily) and

may be sufficient, but cortisol supplementation should

be invoked if any doubt exists. Pregnenolone may be

used as an alternative to DHEA usually 30mg daily.

I hope this helps in some way...

Do you live in the UK or the US?? you may have

to go and see someone like Dr. Peatfield or Dr. Lowe.

somebody who really understands this stuff on

a level that the normal endocrynologist does not.

Best wishes

Jane

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>

>

> > Hi all, well, nobody wrote me back about my question about my DHEA

levels

> > being too high.

> >

> > I think I am going to leave this list. You all have hypo and talk about

> > taking supplements.

> >

> > I am the opposite. I have too high levels of everything. Too high

insulin,

> > DHEA, and thyroid. I don't need supplements. I need to reduce my levels.

> >

> > I've asked you all many times for help but I think you all are just so

> > different than me, I don't belong here.

> >

> > Thanks and good luck to everybody in your health.

> >

> > Leila Armush

> > Work: larmush@...

> > " Don't re-elect that 'son of a bush'; he's created enemies faster than

he

> is

> > able to kill them. " -s.c.

> > http://communities.msn.com/LeilasTriptoSyria/pictures/html

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health & Wellness for

> information

> > and advice. http://gerd.msn.com/default.asp

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Jeana, I forwarded your name on to my sister n law and she will forward it to Lori...I will let you know if it becomes part of paint job.

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I would like to have my name added to the bike, if thats possible. Jeana Chastain/January 1999/survivor Thanks

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Welcome back, Aggie - - - I was wondering what happened to you! These husbands can be disasters when it comes to messing with our computers! Mine has totally wiped us out a couple of times - - so I have learned to print out my e-mail address periodically so I can put them back in if I have to! I now have it saved on a CD, but I'm afraid to trust anything that I can't see in black & white!!! Have worked with computers too long to think that you can trust these fickle machines!!

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Carol

I am sorry to hear about your surgery. I will keep you in my prayers.

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Hi Ladies & men, Well if it wasn't for bad news I wouldn't have any...They did that scope down my throat and couldn't get a biopsy, so now I am having surgery May 23rd and they will go through my rib cage to get to mass...not looking forward to that...will spend 4-5 days in the hospital. I am scared to death!! We finally got the go ahead to get our house started and now this...I keep telling myself this is just another bump in the road....Has anyone here gone through this procedure???....thanks for all of your prayers...you all are always in my mind and in my prayers...

hugs and prayers

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Hi and welcome to the group. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have, vent, share etc. We are all here for you. Things have changed a lot since 1986. I had my breast cancer in 1990 and there are new drugs coming out all the time. I will keep you in my prayers.

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Was told three days ago I have breast cancer and having test to see if it has spread. Been thru this with my mother until she lost her fight with cancer in "86".

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Hi Edith!

When I was diagnosed in 1990 I had one node involved and went through 6 mo of chemo but no radiation. Hang in there. We are all here for you.

As far as your boyfriend is concerned if he really loves you he won't go anywhere. If he does leave then would you really have wanted to keep him as your boyfriend?

I will keep you in my prayers.

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I was just diagnosed with breast cancer on May 23,2005. Had to have other test done to see if it had spread to my lymphnodes,lungs,liver ,and bones. All the test came back cleanexpect the nodes. So now I'm schedule on the 16th of June to have my right breast removed and half of my nodes on the right side. The doctorsays that after the surgery I will have radiation and chemo.I kind of know what to expect since I when thur this with my mother until 86 whenshe lost her fight with cancer, but its still scary for me. I was feeling good about the mastectomy when the doctor said I could have the reconstructive surgery done at the same time but now that I have to have radiation they arent able to do it. Now sure how my boyfriend will handle it but he tells me that he isnt going anywhere.Edith

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i second that if he loves you he will stand by you if not well you didnt need him anyway the way i look at it we all here for you i had 6mon chemo like marianne and you will see the light at the end of the rd it will get better

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I was just diagnosed with breast cancer on May 23,2005. Had to have other test done to see if it had spread to my lymphnodes,lungs,liver ,and bones. All the test came back cleanexpect the nodes. So now I'm schedule on the 16th of June to have my right breast removed and half of my nodes on the right side. The doctorsays that after the surgery I will have radiation and chemo.I kind of know what to expect since I when thur this with my mother until 86 whenshe lost her fight with cancer, but its still scary for me. I was feeling good about the mastectomy when the doctor said I could have the reconstructive surgery done at the same time but now that I have to have radiation they arent able to do it. Now sure how my boyfriend will handle it but he tells me that he isnt going anywhere.Edith

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Hi le,

My name is nne, I had surgery May 24, 1990. I had a mastectomy with no reconstruction and no radiation. I had 6 mo of chemo, I had very little nausea and my hair just thinned but never completely fell out. I will keep your Mother in my prayers.

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Hi everyone. I'm brand spankin new here. My mom was diagnosed with Lobular Breast cancer and will be starting chemo treatments in about a month. She's already had a masectomy. I would like to hear of some of your experiences with chemo. Whether they are good or bad, I really would like to know what to expect. I know everyone reacts differently to it, but I just have to hear "real people" talk about their experiences. Thank you very much.

le

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It depends on the kind of chemo she gets, as well as her overall health

and attitude. I had 4 rounds of adriamycin/cytoxin nearly 6 years

ago. I experienced extreme fatigue, a lot of memory loss (some has

returned, some, I fear, is gone forever) and I lost nearly every hair

on my body (kept about half of my eyebrows and lashes). My straight

hair came back curly and with a lot of gray, but straightened out again

in about eighteen months....alas, the gray remained! I didn't have

much nausea, as they gave me good medications to prevent it. I gained

a great deal of weight, but I think that had more to do with refusing

to deny myself anything I wanted after facing down cancer! The chemo

made most foods taste metallic, but I learned that eating cold or

luke-warm foods and using plastic utensils helped, and it stopped a few

weeks after chemo ended.

She will need a lot of help cleaning house, preparing meals, shopping,

etc., as she probablly just won't have the energy to do much.. It was

really hard for me to let go and let other people do for me....I'm used

to being super mom....so it was quite emotionally draining for me as

well as physical.

Does your mom have computer access? We'd be happy to answer any

questions she may have..

Hugs,

le wrote:

Hi everyone. I'm brand spankin new here. My mom was diagnosed

with Lobular Breast cancer and will be starting chemo treatments in

about a month. She's already had a masectomy. I would like to hear of

some of your experiences with chemo. Whether they are good or bad, I

really would like to know what to expect. I know everyone reacts

differently to it, but I just have to hear "real people" talk about

their experiences. Thank you very much.

le

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