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Congresswoman Sheila Lee is an idiot, if we waited for the PD to give the

okay to dispatch a med unit, then valuable time yould be wasted. From the time

the call is made, till the time we have the patient in the ER is crucial.

Anyways think about all the lawsuits to come from that, because the FD was not

here fast enough, my husband died, etc... If she wants to help with the budget

crises, she should shut up and pay her taxes. Because the only thing she is

doing is screwing up our world, and we have enough crap to worry about. That is

my two cents, thank you have a great day!

EMT-B/SAR Swimmer-US Navy

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Mike , LP wrote:

>

> If it's a real quote, I'd like to call her office and give her my opinion.

> If not, it's scary that it COULD be true... you know?

Even if she hasn't said it, I would be willing to bet she has thought it.

Rob

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I am in complete agreement with Mike, as I could not identify any

independent source citing this story. It is notable that the Associated

Press identifier (AP) is used, though.

Could you clarify?

Schadone, NREMT-Paramedic

City of Austin

Austin/ County EMS

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Sheila Lee is a total disgrace and a complete waste of space on this planet.

Tighten OUR belts? I had the chance to meet her once, and had I known she

was going to call me an ambulance driver I'd have REALLY told her what I

think of her. Disgusting and disgraceful.........Thousands of people

actually voted for her and that makes me immensely sad.

magnetass sends

Oh No!

> FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND EMS NEED TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS

>

>

>

> Washington, DC (AP) A prominent Congresswoman has called upon emergency

> medical services (EMS) and fire departments nationwide to " tighten their

> belts. " Congresswoman Sheila Lee (D-Texas) stated, " Because of the

> Bush economy, many fire departments, police departments and EMS services

> need to restrict services or look at other methods of saving money. " She

> stated, " For example, I think that it should be a federal law that all

fire

> departments should send a single fire engine to all false alarms instead

of

> all those trucks and men. " " It is just a waste of time and gas to send all

> those people on false alarms. " " Likewise, since we have more police

> officers, we should send them first to all ambulance calls to make sure an

> ambulance is really needed before they actually send the ambulance and

> ambulance drivers out, " Lee told the Congressional Sub-Committee on Public

> Safety. " That would assure that the ambulances are there when people

really

> need them, " she said.

>

>

>

> Wisconsin Congressman O'Reiley (R-Minnesota) stated, " This is

> ridiculous and nothing more than the Democrats attempt to scare people and

> blame the current economic woes on Bush when they really belong to

Clinton. "

> Lee countered, " We must continue to fund programs that help the needy such

> as AFDC, welfare, and homeless shelters instead of spending the money on

> firemen and ambulance drivers. "

>

> Lee rocketed to the center of national attention in 1997 when, while a

> member of the House Committee on Science and Space she asked a NASA

> scientist if the Mars Pathfinder had photographed the flag that Neil

> Armstrong had left behind. The flag was, of course, planted on the moon.

She

> also drew attention when she complained that the names of hurricanes are

> " lily white " and is seeking to have better representation for names

> reflecting African-Americans and other ethnic groups. " All racial groups

> should be represented, " Lee said, according to the Hill. She hoped federal

> weather officials " would try to be inclusive of African-American names. "

A

> sampling of popular names that could be used include Keisha, Jamal and

> Deshawn, according to the paper.

>

> The Chairman of the House Committee, when asked about Lee's comments,

said,

> " We'll take it under advisement. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Speed is not essential to pt care I know cause I read it right here on this

list server a few hours one way or another doesn't mean a thing no sirens no

lights no hurry take the lights off the unit and the sirens as a matter of

fact you don't need those big one tone trucks either save money get a mini

van and use one emt-b to save money to and go all basic trucks to save money

.. Best thing congress could do to help save taxes is for every one of them

to take a pay cut down to what real people earn 50k or maybe even 20k a

year.

emtp

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> Congresswoman Sheila Lee is an idiot, if we waited for the PD to give the

> okay to dispatch a med unit, then valuable time yould be wasted. From the

time

> the call is made, till the time we have the patient in the ER is crucial.

> Anyways think about all the lawsuits to come from that, because the FD was

not

> here fast enough, my husband died, etc... If she wants to help with the

budget

> crises, she should shut up and pay her taxes. Because the only thing she

is

> doing is screwing up our world, and we have enough crap to worry about.

That is

> my two cents, thank you have a great day!

>

> EMT-B/SAR Swimmer-US Navy

>

>

>

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Actually, it was forwarded to me and I am sure it is a parody. The silver

lining is that many people didn't recognize that you can't provide a

different response to a false alarm until you get to a scene and see that it

is a false alarm. Not one person picked that up.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

[http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

RE: Oh No!

If we were a half-year ago, it'd be a nice April Fool's joke...

I can't find a house sub-committee of Public safety, nor even a Congressman

O'Reiley.... Who is your source--c'mon now, need to back up your

statements with references--you know the rules. :)

And I had hoped there'd be some truth in the government. Shucks.

Of course, the silver lining to it all is that we need to be properly

educating our Congresspersons as to our needs...

Jon Kavanagh

EMT/FF

Paramedic Student

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You have GOT to be pulling my leg!!! Please tell me she isn't REALLY this

cranio-rectally infarcted!

" I think that it should be a federal law that all fire departments should send a

single fire engine to all false alarms instead of all those trucks and men. "

Fine. When your house is burning, Ms. Lee, we'll send one truck to check it

first, just to make sure it isn't a false alarm.

" Likewise, since we have more police officers, we should send them first to all

ambulance calls to make sure an ambulance is really needed before they actually

send the ambulance and ambulance drivers out, that would assure that the

ambulances are there when people really need them, " she said.

No problem there, either. When YOU are ill or injured when the PD is doing

shift change, we'll make sure they complete roll call first, so they are

completely aware of what's going on in their district, and have them stop for

donuts and coffee enroute. That way they'll be fully alert so they can make an

" informed cancellation " of EMS. We wouldn't want to subject you to untrained

" ambulance drivers " like me...

Why don't you just go and check out Neil Armstrong's flag yourself?

<rolling eyes now>

Barry E. McClung, EMT-P

Oh No!

> FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND EMS NEED TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS

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Any one who has ever heard her talk or seen her on the campaign circuit would

fully expect this from her.

She has made so so so many statements similar to this about everything from race

to imigration to gun control.

Yet she keeps getting elected over and over again.

Ed Walsh LP

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You have GOT to be pulling my leg!!! Please tell me she isn't REALLY this

cranio-rectally infarcted!

" I think that it should be a federal law that all fire departments should send a

single fire engine to all false alarms instead of all those trucks and men. "

Fine. When your house is burning, Ms. Lee, we'll send one truck to check it

first, just to make sure it isn't a false alarm.

" Likewise, since we have more police officers, we should send them first to all

ambulance calls to make sure an ambulance is really needed before they actually

send the ambulance and ambulance drivers out, that would assure that the

ambulances are there

when people really need them, " she said.

No problem there, either. When YOU are ill or injured when the PD is doing shift

change, we'll make sure they complete roll call first, so they are completely

aware of what's going on in their district, and have them stop for donuts and

coffee enroute.

hat way they'll be fully alert so they can make an " informed cancellation " of

EMS. We wouldn't want to subject you to untrained " ambulance drivers " like me...

Why don't you just go and check out Neil Armstrong's flag yourself?

<rolling eyes now>

Barry E. McClung, EMT-P

Oh No!

> FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND EMS NEED TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS

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I picked it up, and I would have IMMEDIATELY clued in.....except it was

Sheila Lee. She is absolutely capable of uttering nonsense like

that. I bet she was one of the people that fell for the Dihydrogen monoxide

scam somebody pulled on freshman congressmen that time.

magnetass sends

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>

> If we were a half-year ago, it'd be a nice April Fool's joke...

>

> I can't find a house sub-committee of Public safety, nor even a

Congressman

> O'Reiley.... Who is your source--c'mon now, need to back up your

> statements with references--you know the rules. :)

>

> And I had hoped there'd be some truth in the government. Shucks.

>

> Of course, the silver lining to it all is that we need to be properly

> educating our Congresspersons as to our needs...

>

>

> Jon Kavanagh

> EMT/FF

> Paramedic Student

>

>

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My favorite from the article is " Wisconsin Congressman O'Reiley

(R-Minnesota) "

Nice clue......

SParsley

Keller Fire-Rescue

> FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND EMS NEED TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS

>

>

>

> Washington, DC (AP) A prominent Congresswoman has called upon

emergency

> medical services (EMS) and fire departments nationwide to " tighten

their

> belts. " Congresswoman Sheila Lee (D-Texas) stated, " Because

of the

> Bush economy, many fire departments, police departments and EMS

services

> need to restrict services or look at other methods of saving

money. " She

> stated, " For example, I think that it should be a federal law that

all fire

> departments should send a single fire engine to all false alarms

instead of

> all those trucks and men. " " It is just a waste of time and gas to

send all

> those people on false alarms. " " Likewise, since we have more police

> officers, we should send them first to all ambulance calls to make

sure an

> ambulance is really needed before they actually send the ambulance

and

> ambulance drivers out, " Lee told the Congressional Sub-Committee on

Public

> Safety. " That would assure that the ambulances are there when

people really

> need them, " she said.

>

>

>

> Wisconsin Congressman O'Reiley (R-Minnesota) stated, " This is

> ridiculous and nothing more than the Democrats attempt to scare

people and

> blame the current economic woes on Bush when they really belong to

Clinton. "

> Lee countered, " We must continue to fund programs that help the

needy such

> as AFDC, welfare, and homeless shelters instead of spending the

money on

> firemen and ambulance drivers. "

>

> Lee rocketed to the center of national attention in 1997 when,

while a

> member of the House Committee on Science and Space she asked a NASA

> scientist if the Mars Pathfinder had photographed the flag that Neil

> Armstrong had left behind. The flag was, of course, planted on the

moon. She

> also drew attention when she complained that the names of

hurricanes are

> " lily white " and is seeking to have better representation for names

> reflecting African-Americans and other ethnic groups. " All racial

groups

> should be represented, " Lee said, according to the Hill. She hoped

federal

> weather officials " would try to be inclusive of African-American

names. " A

> sampling of popular names that could be used include Keisha, Jamal

and

> Deshawn, according to the paper.

>

> The Chairman of the House Committee, when asked about Lee's

comments, said,

> " We'll take it under advisement. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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It is a shame she holds Barbara Jordan's former seat. While I disagreed with

many aspect of Ms. Jordan's politics, she certainly had class.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

[http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

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Actually, she did make statements about the " white " names of hurricanes, and

(if my memory is correct), she also made the dumb statement about the flag.

Those of us who live (much too) close to Houston get to hear and read about

her ignorance much more often that the rest of you (and much more often than

we like).

I really wondered about the part about fire, EMS, and LE response. However,

knowing that the rest of the story is based in fact lends credibility to the

whole story.

Maxine

Speaking for myself only

----- Original Message -----

> Actually, it was forwarded to me and I am sure it is a parody. The silver

> lining is that many people didn't recognize that you can't provide a

> different response to a false alarm until you get to a scene and see that

it

> is a false alarm. Not one person picked that up.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

> [http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

>

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Actually, she did make statements about the " white " names of hurricanes, and

(if my memory is correct), she also made the dumb statement about the flag.

Those of us who live (much too) close to Houston get to hear and read about

her ignorance much more often that the rest of you (and much more often than

we like).

I really wondered about the part about fire, EMS, and LE response. However,

knowing that the rest of the story is based in fact lends credibility to the

whole story.

Maxine

Speaking for myself only

----- Original Message -----

> Actually, it was forwarded to me and I am sure it is a parody. The silver

> lining is that many people didn't recognize that you can't provide a

> different response to a false alarm until you get to a scene and see that

it

> is a false alarm. Not one person picked that up.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

> [http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

>

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Actually, I did pick up on that immediately. I did assume, though, that Ms.

Lee would not understand that, and might actually make such a statement.

Maxine

Still speaking only for myself

----- Original Message -----

> Actually, it was forwarded to me and I am sure it is a parody. The silver

> lining is that many people didn't recognize that you can't provide a

> different response to a false alarm until you get to a scene and see that

it

> is a false alarm. Not one person picked that up.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

> [http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

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So why do so many people vote for her in the first place?

Re: RE: Oh No!

> Actually, she did make statements about the " white " names of hurricanes,

and

> (if my memory is correct), she also made the dumb statement about the

flag.

> Those of us who live (much too) close to Houston get to hear and read

about

> her ignorance much more often that the rest of you (and much more often

than

> we like).

>

> I really wondered about the part about fire, EMS, and LE response.

However,

> knowing that the rest of the story is based in fact lends credibility to

the

> whole story.

>

> Maxine

> Speaking for myself only

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

> > Actually, it was forwarded to me and I am sure it is a parody. The

silver

> > lining is that many people didn't recognize that you can't provide a

> > different response to a false alarm until you get to a scene and see

that

> it

> > is a false alarm. Not one person picked that up.

> >

> > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> > Midlothian, TX

> > [http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Guys, I really think we better hold on. I haven't been able to

confirm any thing of what she has supposed to have said. It wouldn't

be the first time someone tried to use this forum to stir things up.

> It is a shame she holds Barbara Jordan's former seat. While I

disagreed with

> many aspect of Ms. Jordan's politics, she certainly had class.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

> [http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

>

>

> Re: RE: Oh No!

>

> Actually, she did make statements about the " white " names of

hurricanes, and

> (if my memory is correct), she also made the dumb statement about

the flag.

> Those of us who live (much too) close to Houston get to hear and

read about

> her ignorance much more often that the rest of you (and much more

often than

> we like).

>

> I really wondered about the part about fire, EMS, and LE response.

However,

> knowing that the rest of the story is based in fact lends

credibility to the

> whole story.

>

> Maxine

> Speaking for myself only

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Bledsoe " <bbledsoe@e...>

>

>

> > Actually, it was forwarded to me and I am sure it is a parody.

The silver

> > lining is that many people didn't recognize that you can't

provide a

> > different response to a false alarm until you get to a scene and

see that

> it

> > is a false alarm. Not one person picked that up.

> >

> > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> > Midlothian, TX

> > [http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> It is a shame she holds Barbara Jordan's former seat. While I

disagreed with

> many aspect of Ms. Jordan's politics, she certainly had class.

With that voice, she could read the phone book and draw a crowd. If she had ever

filibustered, you would have had to sell tickets for the gallery.

Larry N.

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-- " T. Walsh " wrote:

Any one who has ever heard her talk or seen her on the campaign circuit would

fully expect this from her.

Don't get between her and a camera; you'll get flattened.

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Yes I picked it up but the whole post was so asinine I actually felt that a

person who thought with the process that was indicated by the post would not

understand an explanation of any kind. The person in that post thinks with

reverse or inverted rectal craineoligy.

RE: Oh No!

>

> If we were a half-year ago, it'd be a nice April Fool's joke...

>

> I can't find a house sub-committee of Public safety, nor even a

Congressman

> O'Reiley.... Who is your source--c'mon now, need to back up your

> statements with references--you know the rules. :)

>

> And I had hoped there'd be some truth in the government. Shucks.

>

> Of course, the silver lining to it all is that we need to be properly

> educating our Congresspersons as to our needs...

>

>

> Jon Kavanagh

> EMT/FF

> Paramedic Student

>

>

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I am in total agreement with the congresswoman. I would love to see my

resuscitation scores after a policeman take 5-10 minutes to go see if my full

arrest is really a full arrest, and how dare we ask them to start CPR.

Andy

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Resuscitation scores paints a strange image for me (a table of judges

[Gandy, , and ] holding up score cards after your

resuscitation attempt---8.5, 8.0, 4.5(mean=7.0) Conclusion: Andy needs some

remedial training--perhaps 2 straight hours of mouth-to-mouth practice on

Magnetass.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

[http://www.bryanbledsoe.com]

Re: Oh No!

I am in total agreement with the congresswoman. I would love to see my

resuscitation scores after a policeman take 5-10 minutes to go see if my

full

arrest is really a full arrest, and how dare we ask them to start CPR.

Andy

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????????? WTF is that about Doc?

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>

> I am in total agreement with the congresswoman. I would love to see my

> resuscitation scores after a policeman take 5-10 minutes to go see if my

> full

> arrest is really a full arrest, and how dare we ask them to start CPR.

>

> Andy

>

>

>

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I could have gone a lifetime without the visual I got after reading that

email.

Mike

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I am in total agreement with the congresswoman. I would love to see my

resuscitation scores after a policeman take 5-10 minutes to go see if my

full

arrest is really a full arrest, and how dare we ask them to start CPR.

Andy

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